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^^ You are saying that all the bombings done in Iraq is done by USA?
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Come on now, the U.S. didn't pour the gasoline and the U.S. did not light the match. What they did was tear down a roadblock, the choices made by individuals and groups after that roadblock was gone was on their own accord. You think the U.S. needed to light the motherfker up? Let's be honest, this fire has been burning since 633ad. Just because some dictator was able to smother it with brutal oppression doesn't mean it wasn't there.
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I wouldn't either. Actually, I don't have any people I could send. My dog listens to everything I ask him to do, but I wouldn't send him into that carnage.
Assuming you had people you could send. Or a piece of advice. How would you stop the current shia on sunni, sunni on shia killing? Cuz that's the crux right now. Check out the religion forum posts. Is that really the CIA calling shias non-Muslims and saying they deserve the violence?
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or karachi, islamabad, peshawar..etc..lets not forget.
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Seminole I think a little bit of a challenge is that as time passes the options get more limited, in terms of who will be willing to do what, other countries, UN, etc etc.
the options a year ago, would no longer work.
US is simply not seen as an honest partner there, thats one issue. The folks in the govt are not seen as looking for all iraqis interests, thats another issue.
the militant groups are not going to stop, but having a more fair environment may just stop the overt or covert support..even moral support that others may have for them.
reach out to population at large to convince them to not provide any support to these groups, hopefully that would also mean simpleton type recruits will drop in numbers.
strict control of law and order, the onus of which falls on iraqi and US forces, and if they are not able to maintain security then that is their failing.
Its not some local sectarian violence, it has al daeda written all over it, and it has iran written all over it, they both have an interest in keeping US off balance.
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You don't need to push button for all the bombings, you only need to throw fuel and a burning match.
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The fire didn't burn all the way thru 633-2007, esp with the intensity you see it now in Iraq.
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Hate doesn't fade away easily, their gang-leaders need to be put into one room and locked until they can settle down to an agreement.
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Check out the religion forum posts. Is that really the CIA calling shias non-Muslims and saying they deserve the violence?
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Bickering has been going on for ages, but the intense fire seen in Iraq cannot be seen in other parts of the world where two sects live together.
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they are not going to agree. I remember a movie with ICeT and christopher lambert where these gangsters are in a building and the last man standing wins the prize. they basically all kill each other.
sorry if this gos against my usual pacifist posts but these sectarian gangleader guys dont know the meaning of peace and they dont value human life, they are not going to reach a agreement that would stay in force for longer than a few days.
They need to be taken out. thats it. They have the blood of hundreds of not thousands on their hands anyways
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That might be a good solution, but for that to do, govt would need a housecleaning first.
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This is simply being being perpetrated by the CIA and the P2OG to divide and conquer...It's a tried and tested method by the western nations for centuries...No nation where they have ruled has come out intact, there has always been strife wherever they left...India, Iraq, Palestine, Rwanda e.t.c. And if the strife doesn't exist, they create it like these bombings of innocent Iraqis or blowing up Shia Masjids and Sunni Masjids and creating and fabricating stories so that the strife widens on a bigger scale...
It would have to be an absolute dimwitted buffoon to believe that Shias and Sunnis would start a sectarian war when both are intent on driving the crusaders out...
It's simply the US and UK's handiwork for no other race of people treats other people's life as callously as these guys...
Recall Albright's statement when she declared that 5 million dead children is an 'acceptable' risk to take...
These western nations know no mercy, they know no forgiveness...And in the face of such egregiously vicious marauders, one must fight tooth and nail...ANd that is what the Iraqi Mujahideen are doing...
And the only one to benefit from the sectarian divide would be the one who has a history of attacking and destroying millions of innocent lives throughout the years using the most humane excuses and inhumane weapons...
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That is a ridicilous excuse
You blame everything on the Americans and yet take no accountability for the way sunnis and shias kill each other
Sorry Captain, you are totally wrong on this one
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And then how stupid are the Sunnis and Shias that they are so easily controllable :halo:
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There are idiots and morons everywhere who believe the hype and take whatever is in the media at face value…
Isn’t that right M2K?
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nice post. so to support your view that only idiots and morons would justify the violence, and that all violence is based around the western presence, would you go ahead and confirm that this is an idiotic and moronic view:
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showpost.php?p=4761222&postcount=44
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Isn't that right M2K?
Sure is and you are a living example
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Ravage, that is obviously a CIA agent posting to fan the flames. All violence and idiocy is perpetuated by the west. It is after all, to the US' advantage to have to leave Iraq as unstable, violent, terrorist-infested killing fields.
Why else would they have staked a trillion dollars, all their good will and thousands of lives?
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because it ISN"T in the best interest of the US, but it IS in the interest of a 'chosen few' whose interests aren't alligned with the US.
USA didn't see the oil from Iraq.. but there's a pipeline flowing into Haifa.
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Don't leave us in suspense. Who are the chosen few?
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Semi you didnt answer me earlier, without going into whether thats whats happening right now, do you figure a permanent base in Iraq is in US interests?