hi guys
i wanted to kno what u guys think sufism means, and is it right form the islamic point of view or not? do you agree with it or not?
I actually have a class on sufism so i thought taking ideas form all of you might help me out in some of the class discussions!
so i will rell appreciate your views
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check out a previous Gupshup thread on Sufis:
http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum13/HTML/001370.html
Hi Offdachain. The word "Sufi" means wool which is derived from the woollen cap that sufis wear. Sufism is a totally different world. Sufism started somewhere ine the Iran/Iran region a few years after the passing away of our Prophet(saw).
Some of the gratest sufis came from this region around 200 hijri.
Their main purpose is to achieve closeness with Allah. Their love for Allah is so much that they will give up all worldly matters. Some of them go into isolation so that they can devote themselves totally in the worship of God. Others go about preaching and spreading the light of Islam.
Sufis often are in a state of ecstasy, in which they are engrossed only in the thought of Allah. Most of them posessed supernatural and spiritual powers which may seem to be impossible feats by any normal human being.
Sufis devote all their lives in the path of Allah to achieve such positions.
Sufis are misunderstood by a lot of people because the Sufi doctrine is different from Orthodox Islam on some matters.
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Sufism is known as "Islamic Mysticism" in which Muslims seek to find divine love and knowledge through direct personal experience of God. Mysticism is defined as the experience of mystical union or direct communion with ultimate reality, and the belief that direct knowledge of God, spiritual truth, or ultimate reality can be attained through subjective experience (as intuition or insight).
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thank you ppl.
do u think that ppl who are sufis born that way, or can anyone through hard work and devotion become a sufi.
Not all sufis are born that way. Some of them were on the wrong path and then they expereinced something that made them change their lives.
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*sufis are misunderstood by a lot of people because the Sufi doctrine is different from Orthodox Islam on some matters.
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You had a very good resonse. But saying that sufism is different from Islam may leave some with a negative point of view, Sufism is from Islam. A person can become a sufi just by putting extra effort into worship and detaching from the worldly matters. You said some misunderstand sufies, well the fact is that there are some Sufi-Claimers whom innovated things that are not from Islam and the sufies are innocent of what the claimers alege to sufism.
So, when saying sufies, you would remember the great scholars such as Sheik Ahmad Ar-Rifa^iyy and Sheik ^AbdulKadir Al-Jaylaniy, they were among the best role models of Muslim pious scholars and sufies.
We ask Allah to grant us the ability to follow these honorable scholars.
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The sincerity in being at that level of taqwa is astonishing… I read somewhere that if a person says that he himself is a Sufi, then he is definitely not a Sufi!
Of course this applies to women as well…
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Correct. Others have to recognize and appreciate a person as such after experiencing their actions, vis-a-vis, taqwaa. By this, the greates Sufi was Huzoor-e-Akram (sws).
The only aim for a Sufi is to get close to the center of our belief, the imaan. The center is Allah (sbwt). Sufism, by this nature, gives rise to the belief in sprituality that, nowadays, many Muslims reject.
Sufism believe that when a person dies s/he just “moves” (inteqaal) to another dimension. By their sheer ibaada, the sufis gain an increasing levels of sprituality.
This, and other posts before me, are extremely short and barely touch the topic. Sufism teaches how to love, not just follow, Allah (sbwt) and His Prophet (sws). There are numerous sufis who have shown by their actions of selfless sacrifice what the “love” of Allah (sbwt) and His Prophet (sws) means.
More Info on Sufism? Check out the site below: Good Luck.
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http://www.salaf.indiaaccess.com/sufism/index.htm
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sufism is soemthing to expereince not to have classes on .
check out the website
[www.moonovermedina.com](http://www.moonovermedina.com)
Sufism is a cult where drug use and homosexuality is quite prevelant.
Trust amy to barge in on any interesting topic and “bless” us with her remarkably “perceptive insight”.
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Hey amy! you probably lived with those sufis…care to share the experiences?
(Or is this just one of those awful periods in your life, when you had to vent your anger at “anything”)
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Sufism is a cult where drug use and homosexuality is quite prevelant.
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The world of Islam is indebted to these drug-pushers and homosexuals. No group in the history of Islam has been responsible for such spread as sufism. The leaders of the sufis are the Prophet Mohammad (sws) and the khulfa-e-rashideen.
I remember reading about the spread of Islam in the Indian subcontinent. A common misperception was that this spread of Islam was forcefully done by the sword. But the reality is that it was these religous people, whom some groups of people term Sufis, who were responsible for such mass reversion to Islam. The reason why they were so successful was that they were extremely respectful and tolerant of other peoples beliefs. These were people who really took the message of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) to heart. They taught other people the message of Islam through their own practice - not through preaching.
They shoot partypoopers, don't they?
Watcher:
What's up with all these Wahabi/Salafi sites? First you go about bashing Shias now you are after Sufism. What's next? Keep in mind that there are many paths to Allah. You have no right to disrespect other people's belief. The link to the web site you provided is "anti-everybody". If you think that only you, a Wahabi, is on the correct path, think again buddy.
I am a Sunni and my family follows the Naqshbandi-Mujaddidi tariqah. this tariqah is linked to sufism and some of our earlier religious leaders/Imamas are also followed by Shias.
Sufism originated in the Iran/Iraq regions. Some sufis migrated to India and spread Islam there. How do you there there are so many Muslims in the Indian sub-continent?
These people had great spiritual powers and were able to perform unimaginable feats. I'm sure you must have heard some of those events. If you don't believe me just read up the biography of one of these great men.
Let me ask you something- how is it possible for these men to posses such power, knowledge and insight if they were not truly Allah's wali? How can sufism be wrong when these men were obvioulsy so dear to God?
By the way, great link, Sufimaster.
Pristine, I have noticed that subject of homosexuality bothers you and makes you uncomfortable. Were you abused by a mullah as a child? It sure seems that way, i hope you are not a gandoo.
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Pristine, I have noticed that subject of homosexuality bothers you and makes you uncomfortable. Were you abused by a mullah as a child? It sure seems that way, i hope you are not a gandoo.
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Amy, what do you think of female sufis?