Straw in row over Pakistani men sex abuse comments

LONDON: Former Labour home secretary Jack Straw said on Saturday some young Pakistani men regard white girls as easy targets for sexual abuse, drawing criticism from the Muslim community and other MPs.

The Blackburn MP made his concerns public after the jailing of a mainly Asian gang who raped girls in the Derby area.

On Friday, Mohammed Liaqat, 28, and Abid Saddique, 27, were jailed at Nottingham Crown Court for raping and sexually abusing several girls aged between 12 and 18.

In an interview with BBC television Straw said he believed there was a specific problem in some areas of the country, including his own, where Pakistani men were deliberately targeting young white women because they were viewed as morally inferior.

He accused them of treating white girls as “easy meat” ripe for sexual abuse, while women in their own community remained off-limits to them.

“Pakistanis, let’s be clear, are not the only people who commit sexual offences, and overwhelmingly the sex offenders’ wings of prisons are full of white sex offenders,” he said.

“But there is a specific problem which involves Pakistani heritage men … who target vulnerable young white girls,” he added, saying there was no point in denying it was an issue and had been for years.

“We need to get the Pakistani community to think much more clearly about why this is going on and to be more open about the problems that are leading to a number of Pakistani heritage men thinking it is okay to target white girls in this way.”

The two jailed men were the leaders in a gang of street groomers who targeted vulnerable girls on the streets of Derby, then abused them. Sentencing them the judge said he believed this was not a racial crime, but it is the latest in a series of criminal cases involving Asian men and young girls.

Straw’s comments were criticised by Keith Vaz, chairman of the House of Commons home affairs select committee, and some community groups who said they smacked of racial stereotyping.

Mohammed Shafiq, director of the Muslim youth group the Ramadhan Foundation, said in a statement it was dangerous to say such abuse was “ingrained” in Britain’s Pakistani community, but said it had been an issue.

“I have been clear in instigating this debate that these are criminal matters and should be seen in this way, no community or faith ever sanctions these evil crimes and to suggest that this somehow ingrained in the community is deeply offensive.” – Reuters

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/08/straw-in-row-over-pakistani-men-sex-abuse-comments.html

There are people who justify such things (including money and benefits frauds) by saying that the Britishers did this to us during sub-continent occupation!

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Straw is a racist pig deep down and a well known one at that…

But sadly there is some small truth to what he says… there are some right sickos in every peoples though not just Pakistani…

I dont go round saying every hooked nose politician is a lying rug and a murderous coward… but that too has some small truth… :hehe:

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what he said was absolutely stupid.
The majority of rapists are white, yet he goes not make a deal about that. Just specifically mentioning that pakistani men are after white women will just cause fear now.
He also said that they do not go after pakistani women, but prefer white women. This will sound bad, but, on a friday night a white women is more likely to be plastered and parade herself sexually.

Off course they should be severely punished. but to specifically mention pakistanis is wrong.

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Jack Straw is a twat. Who gives a toss about what he says? Just random dribble from a very mediocre politician.

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He is correct, The average Pakistani man in UK is a psycho

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They were targetting underage white school girls, I think one was as young as 9..

Sadly, there is a lot of truth in what he's said..

Posters from outside the UK prob don't realise just how messed up the situation is in a lot of the Pakistani communities in this country.. It doesn't seem to go on with those living in the US and in other places..

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Double Post

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You went through the effort of highlight 'underage white school girls' but Jack Straw was simply saying Pakistani men think all white girls are easy. Dangerous comment.

Also, when you say LOT, you're wrong. The largest percentage of rapes/assaults is committed by white males. Done and dusted.

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^Of course it would be a larger percentage committed by white men if Pakistanis make up only 3% of the population lol.. Hardly 'done and dusted.'

I don't know the exact wording of what he said and whether he was referring to the rapists or UK men of Pakistani origin in general.. The article says 'some young Pakistani' men..

**And the reason I highlighted underage schoolgirls being targeted as if it wasn't obvious was because another poster implied it was grown women being drunk and/or 'parading themselves sexually' who were getting attacked by these gangs..

**(Btw if a mod is reading this there have been a few threads on this subject within the last few months, might be an idea to merge them)

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That's implied, Sherlock. Nothing changes, even after you account for that.

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yes, you are right,

but Straw was talking in general about Pakistani's, which he should not have done.

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Word.

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It is a lot considering the number of Pakistanis in the UK is not that great.. Keep digging ur head in the sand tho, no wonder UK Pakistanis have such an awful reputation (and before anyone blames 'racism' it's funny how Indians and other races don't get accused of this stuff).. If it's not large numbers of forced marriages it's benefit fraud or amongst the lowest academic achievement etc. Everyone else can see it except for us..

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**If he meant in general I agree..

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Jack Straw is a disgrace, he's doing the same thing as Phil Woolas in order to pull in the racist white vote.

Just because this gang of Pakistanis was targetting vulnerable white females doesn't mean all Pakistanis think white women are cheap and to be used which is what Jack Straw said, It's racist and unacceptable. The simple fact is that PROPORTIONALLY Pakistani men commit few sexual crimes compared to the white male population in Britain.

If Jack Straw is saying all Pakistani men exploit white females because of this gang then by that logic he should also declare on national TV that the middle aged white men also exploit white girls and that it is in the white British culutre to do so as a ring of middle aged white paedophiles was discovered in Cornwall around the same time the Pakistani men were arrested. But Jack Straw seems to have conveniently missed this news.

Jack Straw is a disgrace to politics, he uses the same racial tactics as the KKK and Nazis.

The biggest joke is he's the MP for Blackburn which has massive Pakistani population but the stupid Mirpuris around there still vote for him every year even though he's clearly an Islamophobic bigot from the last sensation he caused about women wearing niqaabs.

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well they are a million times better than the pakistanis in pakistan

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^ no we're not.

They know what it is to work hard and to have very little and make it go far.

If you're talking about the few rich corrupt arseholes at the top then fair enough, but British Pakistanis are not better than the majority of Pakistanis, they're a hundered times worse.

Britain is filled with a sizeable portion of azad kashmiris/mirpuris who have done nothing but go on benefits and reproduce with their cousins since they came here and that's fact. They pull down other Pakistanis with them, and I say this born and bred in an area with a massive mirpuri population. Not all do this but the ones who do 99% likely to be mirpuri...

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It’s not just Jack Straw who has spoken about this..

‘Mohammed Shafiq, director of the Lancashire-based Ramadhan Foundation, a charity working for peaceful harmony between different communities, said last year: ‘I think the police are overcautious because they are afraid of being branded racist.’

Police and social services have been accused of fuelling a culture of silence which has allowed hundreds of young white girls to be exploited by Asian men for sex.

Agencies have identified a long-term pattern of offending by gangs of men, predominantly from the British Pakistani community, who have befriended and abused hundreds of vulnerable girls aged 11 to 16.

Experts claim the statistics represent a mere fraction of a ‘tidal wave’ of offending in counties across the Midlands and the north of England which has been going on for more than a decade.

‘No one wants to stand up and say that Pakistani guys in some parts of the country are recruiting young white girls and passing them around their relatives for sex, but we need to stop being worried about the racial complication.’
Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1344218/Asian-sex-gangs-Culture-silence-allows-grooming-white-girls-fear-racist.html#ixzz1AUNcih3e

As long as it’s handled sensitively I can’t see the problem with talking about this stuff..

Can u imagine the outcry if gangs of white or black men were specifically targeting Pakistani schoolgirls for sexual abuse..

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yes exactly we are not. we should not be saying paskistanis from a certain part of the globe are batter of worse than others.

Deeb i understand what you are saying, all the negative news we bring, but i still think his general view on Pakistanis was uncalled for

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Agree with bit in bold.. Now someone is going to come along and say 'stop picking on mirpuris'..