i was reading a book, recently. which has the story of Prophet Abraham and his family.
upon discussing my understanding of the story of the prophet, Abraham, from this book’s reference, i came to realize a discrepancy.
later on i had the opportunity of confirming it, by reading Quran’s narration about the story of Prophet Abraham.
in genesis, Abraham is told to have both sons around the same time.
whereas in Quran, Sarah has Isaac and Hager had Ishmael. Ishmael was born earlier than Isaac.
& upon Ishmael’s sacrifice, God told Abraham that he will also have another son, Isaac, with Sarah.
this obvious difference in the narration of the stories underscore the importance of making sure that we can read these and other prophets’ stories with a critical mind and connect the dots as accurately, & as truthfully as possible, about the religious figures, in a way that it can make sense to us, within the context of gaining insight about the beginnings of our religions.
anyone else would like t share this thoughts on this.
Re: Story Sarah, Hager, Prophet Abraham & their sons
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According to Genesis, Abraham was told that he would have a son by his wife Sarah. She thought she was too old and gave her slave Hagar to sire a child for Abraham. Sarah later DID get pregnant and the two sons were born about 13 years apart. Hagar was send away by Abraham AFTER isaac was “weaned”.
The difference between the Qur’an and Bible is who was almost sacrificed. The Qur’an say Ishmael, the Bible say Isaac.
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Why should the jews let muslims have the glory? Prophet Muhammad himself said that I am son of two "zabihs" (I think that is the word for a man who was to be slaughtered. ) Anyways, one Prophet's own father Abdullah and other was Prophet Ismaeel. I will have to look up why Prophet's father was to be sacraficed but suffice to say that instead of him Abdul Muttalib sacraficed a 100 camels.
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ismail (as) was the older of the two sons....
and it makes sense when u see that the ONLY son was asked to be sacrificed....
and ONLY son can only be the older son....
and we all know why Ibrahim (as) married Hajar (ra)....
so believing that Isaac (as) was the older son is just to live in a fantasy....
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Old man what was the role of paul in formulating the modern christianity. as i read somewhere that paul was a jew and was instrumental in crucifying Hazrat Issa and later on said that he has seen Issa in his dreams etc etc. Is it so?
Also which of the bible book out of 66 been written by either Hazrat Issa or in his life time?
What about sacrificing the only son and only son can be Ismael before the birth of Ishaq
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Paul was commissioned by the Apostles to do missionary work mostly among the non-Jewish Gentiles. He was a more prolific writer and more of his manuscripts are available than other apostles.
Paul belonged to the political-religious group of Pharisees and was studying under the great teacher Gamaliel. He was only a student at the time of Jesus’ trail and most probably not even a member of the Jewish council. Anyone making a statement of Paul being involved with Jesus’ crucifiction are a joke.
Paul persecuted the Christians under guidance of the Jewish council later. While on his way to Damascas, he saw a vision where Jesus appeared to him and asked him why he was persecuting the Christian church. He was struck blind initially and after conversion his eyes were healed again.
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As per the Qur’an, yes. According to the Bible it was Ishaq.
Re: Story Sarah, Hager, Prophet Abraham & their sons
ever read karen armstrong’s “history of God”???
she tells us of biblical evidence that not only ibrahim (as) and ishaq (as), but other prophets also made pilgrimage ot makkah…
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No I have not. Maybe should put it down as part of my reading program for 2007. I doubt though that she could shed more light on the issue since NO other manuscripts older than the Bible mentions any such things. I can only assume, without reading her book, that she take her source from documents written AFTER the Bible books and the Qur’an.
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Here's what I don't understand. Isaac or Ismail. Who cares which one it is. Isn't the point that Abraham was more than willing to put his son's life at risk for his love for God. The story is just there to prove that your #1 priority in life needs to be towards not God. Everything else follows afterwards.
I think this difference in argument over whether it was Isaac or Ishmial is just silly. What difference does it make?
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Agree.
Except that the Apostle Paul use the story to explain the difference between a slave wife and her son relative to a free wife and her son. the other reason is that God’s promises was for the offspring prophesied over his legal son not the son due to Sarah’s unbelief.
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Oh, you see that doesn't make much difference to us. To us, a human being is a human being and should be treated as such , irregardless of who his mother was and what her social status was.
Re: Story Sarah, Hager, Prophet Abraham & their sons
Oh, you see that doesn't make much difference to us. To us, a human being is a human being and should be treated as such , irregardless of who his mother was and what her social status was.
