Status of woman in Islam

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^^

It is a matter of perception on what seems as the right treatment. When you dont have the right to go out without covering your whole body,some people might take it as protection or some people might take it as an inherent violation of their rights. I dont want to go into the pros and cons of the issue but gives a proper perspective on what exactly life is

Here I want to give a small incident shared to me by a North Korean friend who had come to US on asylum. As a child he had wandered into a prohibited area where he was found by the police and was beaten black and blue by the police. His mother was thankful that he was not killed by the police. She was actually thankful to the supreme commander for being so kind.

Hope you get the point..

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INSIDERS view it one way…OUTSIDERS another. Now what view really counts?

Red herring…you’re apriori equating dress to abuse…no point has been made.

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We might have different translations, I admit BUT we have NO VERSIONS of Quranic verses, NO version of Quran. I’ll tell you why, when you present your point. Its not like your Purans that cannot be varified, have not been testified…

Go ahead, I know you need time to browse Anti-Islamic websites and make up some sort of argument… Go ahead, I am waiting for what you’d present. Your arguments are helping us clarify the misconceptions about Islam…

BTW, you did not answer my post earlier. :slight_smile:

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Sadiyahji…We are not discussing if you are satisfied with the treatment given to you in an Islamic society.
The point is if it is correct…

‘Beat your woman’…you know that verse. Do you think that it is correct?

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Ha Ha Ha
Which verse are you quoting dude, please be clear. Tell us more about it :bukbuk:

Come on, don’t be scared now :smiley:

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Yes, it is correct. I have absolutely no problem with it. Whatever Allah (SWT) has legislated is out of His (SWT) Wisdom. Everything that He (SWT) has prescribed is correct and is in the best of our interests.

Here’s the complete verse and tafsir for the word that you picked on:

Source: Dealing with the Wife’s Ill-Conduct

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How can a man not respect a woman in islam. She is the mother, sister, daughter and off course a wife!!!

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Haha, I knew Sadiyah will answer :bukbuk:
What do you think anjjan?

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So 'beating' your woman is a respectful idea in Islam....I will not ask the measurements of light beating. (And where the measurements of beating, mild or harder are mentioned in Quran?) You won Sadiyahji.

Stick to the topic please. - Sadiyah

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And how the most advance and cultured state in Islamic world Iran treats its women officially…..I am afraid of talking about countries like Saudi Arabia and rest…

Official Laws Against Women in Iran

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anjjan, interesting link.

  1. Women are allowed to teach and the site stating that they aren't for certain areas is something that I do not agree with, unless it expands on it.

  2. According to what I've read and understood, women are not to be made presidents and the like. They are allowed to work, however, not made leaders of the nations.

  3. The website states that a woman's life is not as precious, which is totally a false claim. To the best of my knowledge, Quran has in many places states that both men and women are equal in front of Allah (SWT). It's our piety and deeds that raises our status in front of Allah (SWT) and not gender.

  4. Also, the website confuses woman's life as being half by sort of incorporating it with the share of inheritance. Yes, a woman's share in inheritance is less than a man's. However, keep in mind a woman's property and assets are her own. She does not have to contribute it to the family or to spend it on husband, and kids. However, a husband has to spend on his wife, children and perhaps others under his care. Therefore, the money that a woman inherits could be saved in her own account, whereas a man's would have to be shared/spent on wife and kids.

  5. Some lady's abusive story also is a bit off. Ie. that it would require a husband's permission for operation. If someone's husband happens to be of such nature, I would believe that he would foremost be punished by Shareeah. A woman is also allowed to annul her marriage contract. Therefore, the view presented is not accurate.

    1. Yes, a woman needs her husband's permission when leaving the house.
  6. Banning wife from working for the reasons stated is also not very clear. The website is a little too biased and the views presents aren't quite accurate.

  7. Divorce is not a matter to be taken lightly. You cannot say 'talak, talak, talak' in one instance and assume that you're done and over with. It has got to be in 3 different stages. There's more to it than what has been presented. No man would leave his wife without any solid reason and no wife would leave her husband unless she has a strong reason for it.

    1. As for rajm, I know only the very basics and not the details. Therefore, I cannot comment.

The quick facts about sexual slavery, and other forms of abuse have nothing to do with Islam. Much more has been stated; however, it does not mean that everything that Iran does is 100% in accord with the shareeah.

I also quickly looked at a few other links at the website that you used for reference. Quite biased and inaccurate.

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Well, I wonder why for hundreds of years no woman ever been appointed/elected/selected to lead U.S. ( one of the icon of democracy and freedom)
Point is one country rule does not mean final rule of religion or law.

many muslim countries and states had women rulers......just read the history.

No religion has ever in history given respect to women than any other religion or system.

Women were burned alive and are in some places (i suspect) based on hindu religion..not just based on social stigma. Women were raped in house of worship in mideval days of christianity when they were charged of being magicians and 'witches'.

islam brought respect to women who were supposed to worship naked anywhere in the world including india. They were considerd common commodities among the Hindu mujavirs as 'daasis' or 'married to the temple' till muslims came and open eyes of evil hindus palying with women like toys.

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*Article 102 of Iran’s Constitution indicates:
"Women who appear on streets and in public without the
prescribed ‘Islamic Hejab’ will be condemned to 74 strokes of the lash.” *

Alright, I want to point out a few things regarding this topic. I'm not sure if anything mentioned this already.

The wearing of the veil by women is an illogical argument to claim that women are inferior to men. It is more appropriate to indict a society of female exploitation if it tolerates pornography rather than if it enforces the veil. Given that Allah is neither male nor female, given that He does not endear people to Himself based on their gender, given that the Creator cares about all of us male or female, given that the sexual and violent drive of men is stronger than that of women (which is the most important reason behind veiling of women)...given all this, it is illogical to cast a negative light on the following verse contained in the Qur'an:

[33:59] O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them (when they go out or are among men). That is better in order that they may be known (to be Muslims) and not be annoyed...

[24:30-31] Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them; and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do. And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands...

So, men should realize that if women wear hijab, it is because of THEM and their nazrain. But of course, why would men listen to what quran tells them to do! Everyone likes to tell women to wear hijab but they never point out this verse for men from Quran.

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Sadiyahji
Thanks for a lengthy and nice reply! But for some unknown reason you spared the constitution if Iran…..if it degrades woman or if it is correct?

Is asking about a woman’ ‘stoning to death’ off the topic? I will appreciate if you tell me that ‘death by stoning’ is un-Islamic or you endorse it as usual.

Given below is a post ….can you tell me how you find its status’ ‘In the topic?

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The given article explains pro and opposite to the norms of ‘Islam and Women’s Rights’

I promised to come back to some particular verse, as I needed to understand how much you are ready to accept an open thinking. So far everyone has disappointed me.

In the Koran there are four so called neutral verses where women are considered equal to men (at least not demeaning towards women); to which apologists for Islam refer us repeatedly. Here are those:
3: 195 "Their Lord responded to the: “I never fail to reward any worker among you for any work you do, be you male or female, you are equal to one another¦.”
4: 124 “As for those who lead a righteous life, male or female. While believing, they enter paradise; without the slightest injustice”
16: 97 “Anyone who works righteousness, male or female, while believing, we will surely grant them a happy life in this world, and we will surely pay them their full recompense for their righteous works.”
40: 40 “Whoever commits a sin is required for just that, and whoever works righteousness - male or female - while believing, these will enter paradise wherein they receive provision without any limits.”
In opposition to above four so-called neutral verses, there are hundreds of versed that deliberately defame and dehumanise women:
An-Nisa 4: 34 “As to those women On whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill -conduct, admonish them (first), (next) refuse to share beds, (and Last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance): For God is Most High, Great (above you all)”
Al - Baqara 2: 223 “Your women are a tilt for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilt as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (o Mohammad)”
Al - Baqara 2: 222 “They questioned thee (O Mohammad) concerning menstruation, Say it is an illness, so let women alone at such times and go not unto them till they are cleansed.”
Al - Baqara 2: 228 “Men, your wives are your tillage. Go into your tillage any way you want.”
“Women have such honourable rights as obligations, but men have a (single) degree above them.”
“Men are managers of the affairs of women because Allah has preferred men over women and women were expended of their rights.”
4:6 ¦ “And if ye are sick on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have contact with a woman & ye find not water, then go to clean high ground & rub your faces & your hands with some of it¦”
33: 32-33 "O ye wives of the prophet! Ye are not like any other women. If ye keep your duty (to Allah), then be not soft of speech lest he in whose heart is a disease aspire to you, but utter customary speech And stay in your houses. Bedizen not yourselves with the bedizenment of the time of ignorance. Be regular in prayer, & pay the poor due, 7 obey Allah & His messenger

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well goood debate is going on here
WOMENS RIGHTS IN ISLAM:
If we agree with the ‘Women’s rights in Islam’, as portrayed by the Western media, you have no option, but to agree that the ‘Women’s rights in Islam’ are outdated.

The Western talk of women’s liberation, is actually a disguised form of exploitation of her body, deprivation of her honour and degradation of her soul The Western society which speaks of upgrading the status of women in Islam, have actually reduced her status to concubines, to mistresses, to society butterflies, which are mere tools in the hands of sex marketers and pleasure seekers, which are disguised behind the colorful screen of art and culture.

Islam’s radical revolutionary support, gave women their due right and status in the days of ignorance… 1,400 years ago.

Before I dwell further with the topic, I would like you to make note of a few points.

The first point is that, ‘approximately one fifth of the world’s population, consists of Muslims’

There are different Muslim societies - Some may be close to Islam, some may be far away from Islam .The ‘Women’s rights in Islam’ should judged according to the authentic sources, and not what individual Muslims do, or what the Muslim society does.

The authentic sources of Islam, are the Qur’an, which is the word of God, and the authentic Sunnah, and the traditions of our beloved Prophet (may peace be upon him).

Point number four - the Qur’an will never contradict itself, nor will the Shahih Hadith contradict itself… neither will these two authentic sources, contradict each other.

Point number five – ‘Sometimes the scholars differ, and many a times, these differences can be removed by analyzing the Qur’an as a whole, and not just by quoting one particular Verse’.

Because if one particular verse of the Qur’an if its ambiguous many a times the answer is given somewhere else in the Qur’an - Some people quote one source and neglect all the other sources.

And the last point is – ‘It is the duty of every Muslim, male or female, to seek the pleasure of Allah (SWT), and to act as His trustee on this world, and not to try and gain fame or satisfy one’s own ego.

This misconception can be removed by quoting from Surah Nisa, Ch. No. 4, Verse No 124, which says.

Which means – ‘If any of you do deeds of righteousness, whether it be male or a female and has faith, they shall surely enter Paradise and not the least injustice shall be done to them’

SEX in not the critarea to enter paradize
In the Bible, if you read GenesisCh 3, only Eve is held responsible (May peace be upon her) for the downfall of humanity.
And according to the doctrine of ‘Original Sin’, because of Eve (may peace be upon her) the whole of humanity is born in sin.
If you read the Bible in Genesis Ch 3, Verse No.16, it states that the God of… ‘the Bible’ it is saying ‘Unto the woman you shall bear in conception and in sorrow shall you give birth and your desire shall be of your husband and he shall rule over you’
[That means, pregnancy and child birth has been said in the Bible to degrade the women and the labour pain is a sort of punishment. In fact if you read the Qur’an, pregnancy and child birth have uplifted the women.

If you read Surah Nisa, Ch.4, Verse No.1, it says… ‘Respect the womb that bore you’.

women has been given certain concession in Islam.

If she is undergoing her menstrual period or pregnancy, she does not have to fast - She can keep those fasts later on, when she is more healthy
In fact, during the menstrual period and during the postnatal period, she need not pray also - She has been given the concession, and neither does she have to compensate it later ongave economical rights to the women 1,300 years before the West
An adult Muslim woman can own, she can dispose or disown any of her property without consulting any one, irrespective whether she is married or she is single
A women in Islam, if she wishes to work she can work - There is no text in the Qur’an or the authentic Hadith which prevents or makes it prohibited for a woman to do any work, as long as it is not unlawful, as long as it is within the preview of the Islamic Shariah, as long as she maintains her Islamic dress code [/size]

[But natural, she cannot take up jobs, which exhibit her beauty and body - Like for example, modeling and film acting, and such kind of jobs. [/

]Many of the professions and jobs which are prohibited for the woman are also prohibited for the man, for example serving liquor.

For example working in gambling dens - For example doing any unethical or dishonest business - All these jobs are prohibited for both men and women.

But, a woman in Islam has got no financial obligations - The financial obligation is laid on the shoulders of the man in the family - Therefore she need not work for her livelihood

But in genuine cases, where there are financial crisis in which both the ends do not meet, she has the option of working Here too, no one can force her to work - She works out of her own, absolute free will

And the best example I can give you is of Bibi Khatija (may Allah be pleased with her) who was the wife of our beloved Prophet (may peace be upon him)

She was one of the most successful business women of her times and she did the transaction through her husband, Prophet Muhammed may (May peace be upon him)

the financial obligation is not put on her shoulder - It is put on the shoulder of the man in the family
[It is the duty of the father or the brother, before she is married and the duty of the husband or the son, after she is married to look after her lodging, boarding, clothing and financial aspects of her.
When she gets married, she is on the receiving end.
She receives a gift - she receives a dower or a marital gift, which is called as ‘Meher’
If a Woman works, which she does not have to - whatever earning she gets, it is absolutely her property.
She need not spend a single pai on the household - if she wants to spend it is her free will. [Irrespective how rich the wife is, it is the duty of the husband to give lodging, boarding, clothing and look after the financial aspects of the wife

In case of divorce or if a wife gets widowed, she is given financial support for the period of ‘Iddah’ - and if she has children, she is also given child support ]Islam gave the right to the women to inherit, centuries ago.
[Nisa, Ch. 4, Verse No.34
The men are the protectors and maintainers of the women, for Allah (SWT) has given one of them more strength than the other and they give them their means’

People say the word ‘Kawwam’ means, ‘one degree higher in superiority’ - But actually the word ‘Kawwam’ comes from the root word ‘Ikamah’ [/size]

Ikamah’ means for example ‘when you give the Ikamah before prayers - You stand up’.
[So ‘Ikamah’ means to standup - so the word ‘Kawwam’ means one degree higher in responsibility, not one degree higher in superiority.
and this responsibility of men is to protect the women coz he is strong physically.
Sahih Bukhari in Volume 8, Ch. No. 2 Hadith No. 2, as well as in Sahih-Muslim - It says that a man asked the Prophet… ‘Who requires the maximum love and respect and my companionship in this world? The Prophet replied – ‘your mother’ [/size]

]‘Who is next’? – ‘your mother’

]‘Who is next?’ – ‘your mother’

]The man asked for the fourth time, - ‘Who is next’ ]

]The Prophet replied ‘your father’
[75% of the love and respect goes to the father, sorry goes to the mother and 25% of the love and respect goes to the father
There are so many social rights that we can, that we can speak for weeks together
[If a man murders a woman he too will receive the Hurth’ punishment – That is Capital punishment of ‘Kisas’
According to Surah Baqarah Ch. 2, Verse No.178 and 179, ‘he too shall be killed’.

]Like wise if a woman murders, she too will be killed
]In Islam a woman is allowed to give witness

Imagine, Islam gave right to a woman to be a witness, 14 centuries ago

Even now in as late as 1980, the Jewish Rabai, they are considering, they were considering that whether the women should be given a right to act as a witness or not - And Islam gave that right 1400 years ago

Accord­ing to Surah Nur, Ch.24, Verse No.4, it is said ‘If any of you put a charge against the chastity of a woman, produce 4 witnesses, and if they falter, flog them with 80 stripes’

]In Islam for a small crime, you require 2 witness - for a big crime you require 4 witnesses
[Accusing a woman falsely is a big crime in Islam, therefore you require 4 wit­nesses
Now a days you see in the modern society, you find men abusing women and calling them all sorts of name. They call them prostitutes etc, and what nothing is done
]In a Islamic State, if a man calls her a ‘prostitute’ in public or anywhere else, and if she takes that man to court - And if that man cannot produce 4 witnesses or even if he produces 4 witnesses and any one of them falter, all of them will receive 80 lashes each, and in future all their evidence will be rejected In Islam she has the option of either keeping her husband’s name, either adopting the name of the husband, or maintain­ing her maiden name
And maintaining the maiden name is recommend­ed in Islam - And we find in several Muslim societies that women, even after they get married they maintain their maiden name, because accord­ing to the Islamic law men and women are equal
[Qur’an says ‘Man is the protector of the ‘Woman’

Under normal circumstances, the women should not go to the battle field. It is the duty of the man

Only when required, under necessi­ty are women allowed - and they should go to the battle field - Otherwise no

Otherwise you’ll have the same position as you are having in the USA
23rd of April, 1993 it said that - ‘90 people were sexually assaulted in a convention, of out which out of which 83 were women and 117 officers were charged with in disciplinary action’ - Imagine in one convention only, 83 women sexually assault­ed.

What was the crime of those 117 officers?

[They made the women run and they snatched at their clothes - They made them parade absolutely nude without even covering the genital parts - They were made to have sex in public .Is this what you call ‘Women’s rights’?

Islam believes in equality between men and women - Equality does not mean identicality.

Suppose in a classroom 2 students, student ‘A’ and ‘B’, during an examination both come out first - Both secure 80% marks - 80 out of 100

Out of the hundreds of students, 2 come out first ‘A’ and ‘B’

When you analyze the question paper, the question paper has 10 differ­ent questions, each carrying 10 marks.
[In question 1 student ‘A’ got 9 out of 10, and student ‘B’ got 7 out of 10 - So in question 1 student ‘A’ was higher than student ‘B’.
In question 2, student ‘A’ got 7 out of 10 and student ‘B’ got 9 out of 10,

  • Student ‘B’ was higher than student ‘A’ in question number 2.

In question 3 both of them got 8 out of 10, both were equal

So when we add up the marks of all the ten questions, both student ‘A’ and ‘B’ got 80 out of 100

]So in short, student ‘A’ and student ‘B’ are over all equal

In some question ‘A’ is higher than ‘B’, in some question ‘B’ is higher than ‘A’, in others both are equal

In the same fashion, taking the example that since Allah has given man more strength - Suppose a thief enters the house will you tell, ‘I believe in women’s rights - I believe in women’s rights’ - will you tell your mother, your sister and your daughter, to go and fight the thief?’

No, but natural you’ll fight him - If required they may interfere - under normal circumstances since Allah has given you more physical strength, you have to go and tackle the thief.
So here, in physical strength, man is one degree higher than the woman
Let us take another example where… where it comes to giving respect to the -where it comes to respecting the parents - The children are supposed to respect the mother 3 times more than the father.

Here the women have one degree higher than the men - Over all both equal

So Islam believes in equality, not identically - Men and women are over all equal in Islam. this is a summary of a great lecture of DR ZAKIR NAIK (www.irf.net)

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THERE IS THE ANSWER OF UR QUESTION READ IT CAREFULLLY PLZ
There are at least 5 Verses in the Qur’an, which speak about the witnesses, without specifying male or female **- *In one place there is an indication, in which two women witnesses is equal to one witness of man, and that is in Surah Baqarah, Ch. No. 2, Verse No. 282, which happens to be the longest Verse of the *Qur’an. It says that... ‘When you involve in financial transaction, in which future obligations are there, reduce them in writing, and take 2 witnesses among the men’. if you can not find 2 men witnesses, take one man, and 2 women, so that if one of them gets confused, the other will remind her - This Verse of the Qur’an, Surah Baqrah, Ch. No. 2, Verse No. 282, only deals with finan­cial aspects. Only in financial aspects, it is said that take 2 men as witnesses, preferable - only if you can not find 2 men as witnesses, take one man, and 2 women. Let me give you an example, for a better understanding - Suppose a person wants to undergo a surgery, he wants to go under an operation… but natural he would prefer taking the advice of 2 qualified surgeons. If he cannot find 2 qualified surgeons, he would take the advice of one qualified surgeon, at least backed with 2 normal general practitioners, who have got a normal M.B.B.S. degree, because a surgeon is more qualified in the filed of surgery, as compared to a plain M.B.B.S. doctor. In the same fashion, since the responsibility of the financial aspects, has been laid on the shoulders of the man, in Islam… he is more well Versed in finance, as com­pared to the women - That is why the best option for witnesses in financial transactions, is 2 men. If you can not find 2 men, then one woman… sorry, one man and 2 women. Again, if you read in Surah Maidah, Ch. No. 5, Verse No. 106, it says that... ‘Anyone writes a will of inheritance, take two men as witnesses’ - Again dealing with financial transactions, men are pre­ferred. Some of the Jurists say that… ‘Even while giving witnesses in cases of murder, the feminine nature may obstruct her, and she may get scared in cases of murder - That is why even in cases of murders, 2 women witness are equal to one witness of man. Only under these 2 conditions… of finance and cases of murder, are two women witness, equal to one. Some of the scholars say, “No, Islam says, one place in Surah Baqrah, Ch. No. 2, Verse No. 282, that… ‘Two women equal to one man’ - Therefore under all circum­stances 2 women is always equal to one man”. Let us analyse… as I said let us analyse the Qur’an as a whole. If you read the Qur’an, in Surah Nur, Ch. No. 24, Verse No. 6, it states that… ‘If any of you put a charge against your spouse, and if they have no evidence, if they have no evidence, their solitary evidence is sufficient’. Means, if a husband wants to put a charge against the wife, the wife has to put a charge against the husband - if they have got no witnesses, their solitary evidence is sufficient. This Verse clearly indi­cates that one woman witness, is equal to one witness of man. There are several cases, which the Jurists agree that even in cases of sighting of moon, one woman witness is sufficient. Some Jurists say that… ‘In the beginning of Ramzan, one witness is required - At the end of Ramzan, two witnesses are required - It does not make a difference, whether they are man or woman. There are certain cases in which man’s witness cannot be accepted… only woman’s witness is accepted. All are waiting for the answer, I be­lieve. Suppose you want to give a witness for the burial bath of a woman - After a woman dies, the witness for a burial bath, can only be given by a woman. And only in extreme cases, when you cannot find women, then can the husband give, the witness - so here the woman witness is preferable - Hope that clarifies your doubt, brother.

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WHY POLYGYNY IS ALLOWED IN ISLAM??
There is no Religious book on the face of the earth, which says… ‘Marry only one’.
You read the Geeta, you read the Veda, you read the Ramayana, you read the Mahabharta, you read the Bible - No where it is mentioned… ‘Marry only one’ - Its only mentioned in the Qur’an. In fact if you read the Hindu Scriptures, most of the kings… most of the kings had several wives - King Dashrat had more than one wife, Lord Krishna had several wives. If you read the Jewish Scriptures, the Jewish law allowed ‘Polygeny’ in the 11th century. It was only when Rabi Gurdshom Benjahuda, he passed a Signord and said… ‘Polygeny should not be allowed’. Still, it was practiced by the Septranic Jewish community, in the Muslim countries… until in 1950, the chief Rabainite of Israel, put a ban on it. The Christian Bible allows Polygeny - only a couple of centuries ago, the Church put a ban on it. Even if you analyse the legal aspect of India, the Indian law allowed a Hindu man to have more than one wife. It was only in 1954, when the Hindu Marriage Act was passed, and if I am wrong Justice Kazi can correct me - When the Hindu marriage Act was passed in 1954, which put a ban, and prohibited the Hindu man to marry more than one wife. If you see the statistics, according to a committee report on ‘The status of women in Islam’, which was published in 1975, on page No. 66 and 67, it states the percentage of Polygamous marriages. And it said that… ‘The percentage in which the Hindus did Polygenous marriages, it was 5.06, and the percentage of Muslim Polygenous marriages, was only 4.31’. Let us leave the statistics, aside… let us come to the main point - why did Islam allow Polygeny? As I mentioned earlier, Qur’an is the only Religious book on the face of the earth which says… ‘Marry only one’. It is mentioned in Surah Nisa, Ch. No. 4, Verse No. 3, that… ‘You can marry women of your choice, in twos, threes or fours, but if you can not do justice, marry only one’. This statement… ‘Marry only one’, is only given in the Qur’an - it is not there in any other Religious books. In pre-Islamic Arabia, men had several wives… Some people had hundreds of wives. Islam put an upper limit to Polygamy - Maximum four. And if you can have more than one wife, only on the condition, that you can do equal justice between the two, or bet­ween the three, or four - otherwise only one. And the same Surah… Surah Nisa, Ch. No. 4, Verse No. 129, says that…, ‘It is very difficult for a man to be just, between his wives’. So Polygamy is an exception… it is not the rule - Many people think that Islam says…, you should compulsory marry more than one wife. There are five categories of do’s and don’ts, in Islam. 1st category is compulsory, which is ‘Farz’, the 2nd category is ‘Recommended’ or ‘Encouraged’, the 3rd category is the ‘Permissible’ category, the 4th category is the ‘Discouraged’ category, and the last is prohibited or ‘Forbidden’Polygeny, falls in the middle category of, ‘Permissible’. There is no statement in any Hadith, or in the Qur’an which says that… ‘If a man marries more than one wife, he is a better Muslim than a person who marries only one wife’. Let us analyse logically, why does Islam allow a man, to marry more than one wife? By nature, men and women are born… male and females are born, in equal proportion. But medical science tells us that… ‘The fetus… if it’s a female, it is more stronger than the male fetus.’ Pediatric knowledge tells us, that… a female child has got more resistance, than the male child - A female child can fight germs and disease, much more stronger and a better way, than the male child. ***** **Medical science tells us, that the female is health wise a stronger sex, than the male - so in the Pediatric stage itself, the female ratio is higher than the male ratio. Wars take place in the world, and during wars, more males are killed than the female. Even the recent war which took place… in the recent war which took place in Afghanistan, approximately more than one and a half million people were martyred, out of which most of them were men. Statistics tells us that accidents take place - More of the men die in accidents, than female - More male death takes place due to cigarette smoking, than female death. Therefore, we have more females in the world, as compared to the male. India is one of the country, besides the few of the Asian countries, and , in which the female population is more than the male population. And the reason I have given you … because more than one million fetuses are… female fetuses are being aborted, every year. And because of the high rate of infanticide… female infanticide - that is the reason, that females are less than the male. Otherwise, you stop this evil practice, and within a few decade, you’ll have that the male population is… will become much less than the female population. In New York alone, there are 1 million females more than male - In US, alone there are 7.8 million females more than males, and out of the male population of New York, 1/3 are Gay. They are Sodomites - That means, they can not find female partners - And there are more than 25 million Gays in America alone, there are more than 4 million females, more than males - In Germany alone there are 5 million females more, than males - In Russia alone, there are 7 million females, more than males - And God knows, how many million females are there more than the males, in this whole world. If suppose my sister happens to live in America], and suppose the market is saturated, every man has found a female partner for himself - Still there will be more than 30 million females in USA alone, who will not be able to find husbands. And suppose my sister who is living in America, happens to be amongst the unfortunate ladies, who has not found a partner yet - The only option remaining for her is, that she either marries a husband… she marries a man who already has a wife, or she becomes public prop­erty - There is no third option. And believe me I have posed this question to hundreds of Non-Muslims, and every one opted for the first - No one so far, has opted for the second. But there are some people who are smart, and he said that… ‘I would prefer my sister remaining a virgin’. Believe me, medical science tells us, that a man or woman cannot remain a virgin, throughout her life. She cannot remain a virgin, throughout her life, without indulging in illicit sex or sexual perversion, because daily, sex hormones are being liberated in the body. And those great men, who claim to have renounced the world, for example the Sages and the Sants, who go to mountains and behind them, you find the devadasis going - for what? According to a report… according to a report… ‘Out of the Priests and the Nuns of the Church of England , the majority indulge in fornication and homosexuality’ - there is no option… there no third option. The only option is, that you marry a husband who already has a wife, or you become a public property.
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Re: Status of woman in Islam

PROPERTY RIGHTS TO WOMEN:
economical rights of women and men, are equal. So how come she is not entitled to her equal rights, when it comes to inheritance - and normally people say that the woman gets 1/2 the share, as compared to that of the male. The answer to this question, is given in the Qur’an, in Surah Nisa, Ch. No. 4, Verse No. 11 and 12, which gives the guidelines, how the inheritance should be divided.It says… ‘Allah has ordained for your as regarding your children… as regarding your children’s inheritance - for a female, a share half that of the male, and if only daughters 2 or more, they share in a two third - if only one, they get half’. The Verse continues… ‘And one sixth share for the parents, if the deceased have children. If you have no children… if the deceased has no children, the mother gets one third. If the deceased has brothers and sisters… mother gets one sixth’. And the Verse continues… Verse number 12 says… ‘As in what your wife leaves your share is half, if there are no children, and your share is one fourth, if there are children. As in what you leave for your wife, your wife’s share is one fourth, if there are no children, and one eight if there are children’. In short, most of the time, the female gets half the share of the male counter part, but not in all cases. For example, for a uterine brother and sister, both get one sixth, if the deceased has got no ascendant or descendent… both get equal share. If the deceased has got no children, both mother and father get equal share of one sixth. And in certain cases, if the person who has died, is a lady who has got no children, the husband gets half, the mother gets one third, and the father gets one sixth. That means, there are cases in which the woman even gets double than that of the male coun­ter part - that is, the mother gets double than that of the father. But I agree with you, in most of the cases, the female gets 1/2 the share as compared to the man, when it is considered to daughter and a wife. But the answer to this, is that since man… since man is held responsible for the financial aspects of the family, and in order not to do injustice to the man, Allah has given a higher share to the man, as compared to the woman - Otherwise we will have to have a lecture on… ‘The rights of men’. I would like to give an example - Suppose a person dies, and after the properties have been distributed… the share of the children, remaining is one and a half lakh - and that person has two children, one son, one daughter. According to the Islamic Shariah, the son gets 1 lakh Rupees, and the daughter gets fifty thousand Rupees - but of the one lakh Rupees which the son receives, he has to spend, may be the majority of it, on looking after his family - may be eighty thousand or… eighty thousand … or 1 lakh, he has to spend on looking after the family. But that lady when she receives 50,000 she does not have to spend a single pie on looking after her family.
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Re: Status of woman in Islam

HIJAB Y???
Islam believes in ‘Women’s Rights’, that men and women should be equal… then why does Islam believe in ‘Pardah’- and why should there be segregation of sexes, like the one we are having just now? As I mentioned earlier, Islam does not believe in intermingling of the sexes. Why Islam specifies ‘Pardah’?… I will answer in a short time. And I would like to thank the sister,because I did not have time to speak on the ‘Hijab’ of the women. If you read the Qur’an - before the mentioning of the ‘Hijab’ for the women, the Qur’an mentioned the ‘Hijab’, for the man. It is mentioned in Surah Nur, Ch. No. 24, Verse No. 30, it says to the believing man, that… ‘He should lower his gaze and guard his modesty’. The next Verse… Surah NurCh 24, Verse No. 31, says… ‘Say to the believing woman, that she should lower her gaze and guard her modesty and display not her beauty, except what is that necessary of, and to draw a head covering over her bosom, except in front of her father, her son, her husband’, and a big list of ‘Na-Mahram’, the close relatives which she can marry is given, and but natural, in front of the chaste women - Besides these, she should maintain the Hijab. The criteria for Hijab in Islam, can be found in the Qur’an, and the Sahih Hadith. There are six criteria - 1st is extent, which is the only difference between a man and a woman. For the man, he has to be covered from the naval to the knee. For the woman, her complete body should be covered - the only part that can be seen, should not be seen, is the face and the hands up to the wrist. If she wishes to cover them, she is most welcome, but it is not compulsory that she should cover it - Otherwise the full body should be covered. The only part that can been seen… not should not be seen, is the wrist, face and the hands, up to the wrist. This is the only criteria which differs, between the man and the woman. The second criteria is that, the clothes she wears, should not be so tight, that it reveals the figure. The clothes she wears… third point - it should not be so transparent, so that you can see through. And the fourth point - she should not wear glamorous clothes, or he should not wear glamorous clothes, which attracts the opposite sex. The fifth point is that a person should not wear cloth, which resembles that of the opposite sex - like you find men wearing earnings. If you wear one earring, it signifies something else - if you wear two earrings, it signifies something else. It is prohibited in Islam. And the last criteria is, you should not wear clothes which… that resemble of an unbeliever. These are the six basic criteria of Hijab, in Islam. Now coming to the question - why then Islam believe in ‘Pardah’, and why are there segregation of sexes? If let us analyse the society in which there is ‘*Pardah *’, and society in which there is, ‘No *Pardah *’. The maximum number of crime that takes place in any country… it is inAmerica. According to a report by the FBI in 1990, in the year 1990… ‘One thousand, two hundred & fifty five women were raped’. These are only the reported cases - And the report says… ‘Only 16% of the cases were reported’. If you want those exact figure, multiply 1,02,555 with 6.25, and you get the answer - more than 6,40,000 ladies were raped in America only in 1990. And if you divide this… by the number of days, divide by 365, you get a figure of One thousand, seven hundred and fifty six women are raped every day, in America, in the year 1990. And the report says… ‘Every day… One thousand, nine hundred ladies are raped’ - May be it is the report of 1991… the Americans got more bold. And the last report which came in Autumn, in 1993, it says… ‘Every 1.3 minute, one woman is raped’ - you know why? America has given the women, more rights, and more women are being raped. Only 10 were arrested, 16% are reported - Only 10% are arrested - means only 1.6% of the cases, are arrested. Out of that, 50% are let free before the trial – Means, only 0.8% of the rape cases, are held. Means, if a man rapes One hundred & twenty five ladies, the chances of his being caught, is one. Who would not like to try - One hundred & twenty five ladies you rape, and you get caught only once. Out of that, 50% time you get a punishment of less than 1 year… though theUSA law tells you that… ‘For rape, you have got a punishment of life imprisonment’. But they say… ‘It is happened only the first time… he is caught the first time - Let him give him a chance, and a punishment of less than 1year’. Even in India, according to the National Crime Bureau report, which was… which had come in the papers, in the 1 of December 1992, it said that… ‘Every 54 minutes, one case of rape is reported in India… reported ha. Every 26 minutes, one case of molestation - every 1 hour 43 minutes, one case of dowry death. If you analyse the total number of cases of rape that are taking in our country, it will be… every couple of minutes, one case of rape. I am asking a simple question - if you ask every lady to do Hijab, will the rape case in USA remain the same, will it decrease, or will it increase?. If you apply the Hijab for every lady in India, will the rate of rape decrease, will it remain the same, or will it increase? You should understand Islam, as a whole. Even suppose, after that even, after a lady does Hijab, irrespective a lady does Hijab, or not, a man is commanded… ‘He should lower his gaze’ - and if suppose after that, if a man commits rape… in Islam, he receives capital punishment - you call it a barbaric law? I have asked this question to several people – Suppose… I have asked this question to many of the gents. Suppose your sister is raped, and if you are made the judge - leave aside what Islam tells you, leave aside what Indian law tells you, leave aside what American law tells you - If you are made the judge, what punishment will you give to the rapist of your sister? And all have said… ‘Death sentence’ - Few went to the extreme of saying… ‘I will torture him to death’. Want to ask you a question… ‘If you apply the Islamic Shariah law in America, will the rape case decrease, will it remain the same, or will it in­crease? If you apply the Shariah law in India, will the rape case decrease, will it remain the same, or will it increase? So but natural, let us analyse practically. You say you have given women rights theoretically… but practically, you are degrading her to a status of a concubine and a mistress. I would like to… I mean only speak­ing on ‘*Pardah *’… you can talk for days - Just I would like to… and my answer, by giving a small example. Suppose two ladies… two twin sisters were equally beautiful - if they are walking down the street, and if round the corner there is a hooligan, who is waiting for a catch… who is waiting to tease a girl. Both twin sisters are walking, both are equally beautiful - one is in the Hijab… Islamic Hijab - one is wearing a mini or a skirt. Which girl will that hooligan tease? … Which girl will he tease? But natural, the one in the short or the mini girl. If a girl is wearing a normal salwar kameez, with her head open… may be the salwar kameez tight, and the other girl is wearing a Islamic Hijab - Which girl will he tease? But natural, the girl who is not in Hijab. It is practical proof, that Hijab is been ordained in Islam… not to degrade the woman, but to protect her modesty.
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