Split: Religion vis a vis Shrine/Buildings/graves

[vroom]

Re: Split: Religion vis a vis Shrine/Buildings/graves

@psyah

Assalamu’alaikum brother vroom

The verse is allowing us to ask RasoolAllah (SAW) to ask Allah (SWT) to forgive our sins … It does not permit us to seek forgiveness from RasoolAllah (SAW) in the sense that we believe his (SAW) zaat will be doing the forgiving, but rather that the Zaat of Allah (SWT) will be doing the Forgiveness. Some people disallow even asking RasoolAllah (SAW) to ask on their behalf, because they say - he (SAW) is dead … Auzdubillah … I accept that we may ask from him (SAW) in the same way as that we would ask from him (SAW) when he (SAW) was walking with us. However, I contest anything to do with giving the Right of Allah (SWT) to any other than Him and Forgiveness of sins is one of those rights.

That is what I meant earlier … so what you have presented does not disagree with what I have said … but if you find anything, inshaAllah I would like to take a look.

Wa Alaikum Salam

I have got the quotes from tafsirs on the verse of forgiveness through RasoolAllah SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam, but I have not tried to counter what you said using the verse. I know you know the details of the verse

What the quotes show is that you were incorrect in what you said, not what you meant. What you meant can be interpreted as correct but challenge-able by inclusion of the word Muslim. But I am not going to do that.

The difference between meant and said is like the apparent and the intention. Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala has not given us the permission to categorically say the quoted statement is Shirk.
The apparent of the statement can be interpreted as not shirk so this is what should be done*
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