Split: Religion vis a vis Shrine/Buildings/graves

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Re: Split: Religion vis a vis Shrine/Buildings/graves

@vroom

Its from the understanding I have gained from my scholars upon which I am able to object to this

The quoted scenario is insufficient to make the allegation of Shirk

I’ll quote you from a translation of Tafsir Ibn Kathir: “… I have come to you, asking forgiveness for my sins…”
Tawassul(Waseela)

This is in Middle of the explanation, likewise the scenario quoted must be interpreted in favour of the Muslim. Stopping the allegation of Shirk right there. That’s charitable

This is less Charitable, Tanwir al-Miqbas min Tafsir Ibn Abbas:“…(and asked forgiveness of the Messenger)..”
Altafsir.com - The Tafsirs -

And with this statement (understanding) the scenario quoted is totally freed from the allegation of Shirk.

Assalamu’alaikum brother vroom

The verse is allowing us to ask RasoolAllah (SAW) to ask Allah (SWT) to forgive our sins … It does not permit us to seek forgiveness from RasoolAllah (SAW) in the sense that we believe his (SAW) zaat will be doing the forgiving, but rather that the Zaat of Allah (SWT) will be doing the Forgiveness. Some people disallow even asking RasoolAllah (SAW) to ask on their behalf, because they say - he (SAW) is dead … Auzdubillah … I accept that we may ask from him (SAW) in the same way as that we would ask from him (SAW) when he (SAW) was walking with us. However, I contest anything to do with giving the Right of Allah (SWT) to any other than Him and Forgiveness of sins is one of those rights.

That is what I meant earlier … so what you have presented does not disagree with what I have said … but if you find anything, inshaAllah I would like to take a look.