Split: Religion vis a vis Shrine/Buildings/graves

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Re: Split: Religion vis a vis Shrine/Buildings/graves

@vroom

Salam Alaikum Psyah

I disagree with this example. Disagree with point B specifically

If a person Calls upon RasoolAllah SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam to forgive his sins or to ask forgiveness it is not necessarily Shirk. Since there is this possibility that it was not Shirk the Islamic Fatwa must remain that it is not Shirk

Having said, like everything else, Only Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala can forgive sins. Merely Asking RasoolAllah SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam to forgive sins is not shirk. For it to be Shirk it must be accompanied by other elements which infringe upon Tawheed. Like for example dependency. If a person was to ask RasoolAllah SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam to forgive sins thinking that RasoolAllah SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam was able to do this ‘independently’ then that would be shirk. However if a person was to ask RasoolAllah SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam as a way to gain, be informed, of the Judgement of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala then that would be tawheed. This also includs situations where a person may feel Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala may not forgive them directly, but will Allow RasoolAllah SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam to forgive them on His behalf (a bit like Intercession out of Hellfire).

The point is that the situation described in the example is insufficient to declare Shirk. For it to be Shirk it has to be done with a certain belief of equality in an Attribute, or for it to be not given by Allah (independently gained)

ps There is other points made by other posters on page 2 which i feel i must reply to. In Sha Allah in time

Wa’alaikumuSalam brother vroom

Then you and I differ on this detail … Because Shirk comes from Shareek … Some things are only the Right of Allah (SWT) and they must be understood to be so. The Attribute of Ghafoor is with Allah (SWT) alone. It’s not about equality … The Sifaat of Allah (SWT) cannot be shared by anyone, not even in the slightest.

Furthermore you will find no evidence in our scriptures where people have asked RasoolAllah (SAW) to forgive sins. Rather I could point to the verses in the Qur’an to demonstrate this, you will see plenty of references to show people asking RasoolAllah (SAW) to seek forgiveness for them, but never to grant it … and I request that you check this out from your scholars too.