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I don’t want this to be a sunni vs. shia match, but i read this in an article a while back, that’s why I thought that at one time islam deemed it okay to marry 2 sisters:

Imam of Ahl e Sunnah Al Hafiz Jajauddin Suyuti in his Durre Manthur records the following fatwa of Muaweyah (L):

"Qasim bin Muhammad records that Muaweyah was asked whether it was permissible for a man to marry two sisters at any one given time. Muaweyah replied ‘There is nothing wrong with that’. Upon hearing this reply, Numan bin Basheer asked ‘You have issued this fatwa?’ to which Muaweyah replied ‘yes’.

Reference: Durre Manthur Volume 2 page 477

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but is this the same Muaweyah that caused the whole Hassan-Hussain deaths? That evil guy that no one likes and fabricated loads of hadith’s…

:disgust:

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Evil guy? Lots of Muslims love and respect him. Maybe that's why Muslims are so f*ed up.

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hain??

I thought both shias and sunnis dislike him. Whatchyoo tolkin 'bout?

Educate me. What muslims like Muawiyah and respect him? Its like so strange to hear of this. Are u sure we're talking about the same dude?

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Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there are a few enlightened Sunnis out there. But most that I have encountered say that he was a Sahaba of the Prophet (so that naturally makes him a good Muslim) and therefore we must not talk about him in any negative way. I can imagine that a 100 years from now a Sunni Iraqi will probably be saying the same thing about Saddam.

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Hadhrat Mauwiah:razi: was one of the sahaabi of Rasool:saw:

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okay…then is the Muawiyah that I’m talking about - the one related to the Hassan and Hussain problems the same guy?

:confused:

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Again a lame attempt from another person to muddy the waters of Islam. When you find a Hadith going against Quarn, you are to ignore it. It cannot be authetic. Quran has clearly stated that you CANNOT marry two sisters, than there is no room for a hadith contradicting it.

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Quran definitley has the clear authority in the above and any such case.

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Yes PyariCgudia, same one.

Kaleem,
That is true. But what I posted is not really a hadith, it's a recordation of history stating Muaweyah's fatwa. But since Muaweyah trangressed and went against the Quran, his fatwa should be ignored.

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yeah, like he transgressed and went against the authority of the Quran like all the time?

Are u telling me shias believe that Muawiyah was a good guy?

Oh God, my little bubble is bursting.

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Nah Shias hate Muawiyahl and justifiably so. Its like the Jews hating Hitler. It's the Sunnis who love him.

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Indeed, he was one of the Sahabah and a highly competent ruler on top of that. He created the centralised multi-faith civil service that enabled the Islamic state to effectively control its territories from Damascus without falling apart for several hundred years.

He had one major failing, however, which was that he was responsible for endind Khilafat and introducing Malikat (Kingship) when he had his son, Yazid, appointed to be his successor, and thus laying the path for tyranny.

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so who was the guy that poisoned hassan or hussain (whichever one it was that died of poisoning?) and who was the guy that Bibi Aisha warred against?

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I believe it was Hassan who was poisoned by Mu'awiyah. Aisha warred against Ali, but ultimately according to some historical sources, Aisha was murdered by Muawiyah as well.

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I'm trying to look up a concise history of it all and where shias and muslims stand. i know its offtopic, but I'm confused because our old islamic school teacher told us one version of the story - i thought everyone hated muawiyah - all muslims that is.

Anyone know of a short concise article that explains the history and where shias and sunnis stand on the issue?

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I have a roommate who is shia and I told her muawiyah is a jerk. :smack:

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The circumstance of who poisoned Imam Hassan (ra) are still not clear. Someone instigated his wife to do the deed. What is clear is that his death paved the way for Yazid to succeed Muawiyyah (ra).

Bibi Aisha (ra) rebelled against the Khalifa and Ameer-ul-Muslimeen Ali Ibn Abu Talib (ra)

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You’re getting confused between him and his son. It was his son who was the jerk.

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The Prophet :saw: himself has said: 'Observe silence in respect of my Sahaaba (when they are mentioned with disrespect).