Definitely an off shoot of a thread which was an off shoot of another thread
This was so far fetched few decades ago that Molvies would hush you away for asking such "ridiculous: question, but its so real now that many of us will see it happening in our life time.
If tomorrow we have to leave this planet, and colonize mars - or lets say that amongst the volunteers who agreed to go and live at mars for their whole life, some of them happened to be Muslims; how will they perform their rituals?
Namaz, is ok, as its timings depend upon the sunrise and sunset, and Mars’ day is only 40 minutes longer than earth’s day.
Fasting will be challenging. Mars’s year is 2 times the length of earth, also there is no moon. Our Islamic calendar follows lunar cycles and have 12 months. How will we calculate the end and the beginning of any Islamic month, and how many months there will be?
Zakat will be gone, as its conditional, plus money may not be an object at mars.
Hajj is definitely out of the picture.
and this is just Mars. More outbound you go, more challenging, in fact impossible it will become to follow the religion. - and please dont say that you will follow the earth’s calendar/timings. What if there is no earth left, or there is no way of communicating to earth is there.
More and more I think, more confusing the concept of religion gets. I am not challenging religion, its just that I am running out of answers.
Definitely an off shoot of a thread which was an off shoot of another thread
This was so far fetched few decades ago that Molvies would hush you away for asking such "ridiculous: question, but its so real now that many of us will see it happening in our life time.
If tomorrow we have to leave this planet, and colonize mars - or lets say that amongst the volunteers who agreed to go and live at mars for their whole life, some of them happened to be Muslims; how will they perform their rituals?
Namaz, is ok, as its timings depend upon the sunrise and sunset, and Mars' day is only 40 minutes longer than earth's day.
Fasting will be challenging. Mars's year is 2 times the length of earth, also there is no moon. Our Islamic calendar follows lunar cycles and have 12 months. How will we calculate the end and the beginning of any Islamic month, and how many months there will be?
Zakat will be gone, as its conditional, plus money may not be an object at mars.
Hajj is definitely out of the picture.
and this is just Mars. More outbound you go, more challenging, in fact impossible it will become to follow the religion. - and please dont say that you will follow the earth's calendar/timings. What if there is no earth left, or there is no way of communicating to earth is there.
More and more I think, more confusing the concept of religion gets. I am not challenging religion, its just that I am running out of answers.
Phil, do you believe that not believing in religion or being an atheist/agnostic makes a person unchained? Main tum se bahut araam se baat kar rahi hoon, so I'm hoping you'll respond in kind if you choose to. If your thoughts and decisions are not bound by religion, then they are influenced and even limited by your upbringing, environment, societal laws, etc etc. You're still influenced by someone else's dogma. You're not wholly free.
Phil, do you believe that not believing in religion or being an atheist/agnostic makes a person unchained? Main tum se bahut araam se baat kar rahi hoon, so I'm hoping you'll respond in kind if you choose to. If your thoughts and decisions are not bound by religion, then they are influenced and even limited by your upbringing, environment, societal laws, etc etc. You're still influenced by someone else's dogma. You're not wholly free.
No. One is not chained. One keeps an open mind and tries to learn everyday. One goes where the evidence points. One researches with open mind.
If one does that it becomes clear that religion is simply faith. Not abt evidence. As each discovery drives a nail in the proverbial religious coffin, one ultimateky gets unchained from religious dogma.
No. One is not chained. One keeps an open mind and tries to learn everyday. One goes where the evidence points. One researches with open mind.
If one does that it becomes clear that religion is simply faith. Not abt evidence. As each discovery drives a nail in the proverbial religious coffin, one ultimateky gets unchained from religious dogma.
Then one is free to think. And explore.
would you please stop your flooding on every thread with rants like religion is simlpy faith and does not let people ponder in evidences?
if you say you dont know name of any muslim scientist then you are being dishonest.
would you please stop your flooding on every thread with rants like religion is simlpy faith and does not let people ponder in evidences?
if you say you dont know name of any muslim scientist then you are being dishonest.
Would you please NOT tell me what to do. My posts may be rants to you and yours to me. I sure wont dream of telling you what not to post.
As for the last sentence you surely must be trolling. For I have said no such thing. What is wrong with you, man?
Would you please NOT tell me what to do. My posts may be rants to you and yours to me. I sure wont dream of telling you what not to post.
As for the last sentence you surely must be trolling. For I have said no such thing. What is wrong with you, man?
we muslims had great scientists in past. they were muslims and were open to evidences while being believers of faith. can you bring evidance that can prove my faith false?
well, you cannot answer this because you are 'cheerleader'
you are at your best, the flooding that caused your last ban.
we muslims had great scientists in past. they were muslims and were open to evidences while being believers of faith. can you bring evidance that can prove my faith false?
well, you cannot answer this because you are 'cheerleader'
you are at your best, the flooding that caused your last ban.
When have I said Muslims are not great scientists. This forum has some brilliant people who are Muslims. And my friends. Don't you play that game.
Your bringing up my ban is ample evidence of lack of your debating skills. Cheers!
^I have come across other similar articles. Don’t know about its authenticity or what the recent updates regarding the safety of living on Mars are, but here are some thought that come to mind:
You’re asking how zakat will be paid on Mars when the 6 billion bucks it will take to fund this…cough…1-way trip to Mars could be used to help needy people already suffering on Earth. Hajj: If hajj and umrah are so dear to a Muslim, then I imagine they wouldn’t take up a venture that would never allow for this possibility. You’re so concerned about implementing the 5 pillars, however Islam also states that our bodies have a right upon us. One whose health is impaired shouldn’t fast. And you’re talking about deliberately placing yourself in an environment that poses serious health risks that would make daily living a challenge much less fasting. And when is this mission to start? About 10 years from now? What guarantee do we have that we’ll be alive 10 hours from now? Right now, we are blessed with an environment that makes it easy for us to observe most of the 5 pillars and in general we don’t strive to make maximum use of it, why worry about something so far down the road?