Some Views about Islam from a known Pakistani Singer

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the problem lies in your ideology which is heavily influenced by external cultures and their set of rules. You want us to tolerate (in the name of etiquette) people raping sharee'ah and thus claiming that their Islamic views are correct? Which Islam taught you this? You don't want us to judge him but you are judging us based on your limited aql and westernized influence. The very thought that you want people to follow your set of rules and ideals is arrogant and selfish; this is extremism. Defending sharee'ah and exposing the heretics, in the light of divine principles of sharee'ah, is not extremism.

We're considered "crazy" because of people like you who want to appease people about Islam, rather than appeasing your Lord.

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lol music is harram is Islam. ROFLMAO

i am going to go and smash my kaffir Ipod.

not.

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At this point I should take a breath from laughing while correcting you. If you are talking about aerobics, there are ways arround to it.

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Who the hell are you to think you should be allowed to so completely destroy a person's desire for music because you're too scared to deal with such expression?

Seriously, is Allah really against music? IS HE REALLY?

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Who the hell are you to stop someone who freely spoke his mind out and completely distroy the cool of every other reader who reads your post?

Allah forbids music in Islam. Read up on that and also read Waqyas and Hadees. If you have no proof from the LEGIT muslim spokesmen to prove your belief to us, then you shouldnt stop others who have read it theirselves and listened to the right spokesmen. Singing with music is haram, singing Ayats with music or total haram. Allah is against music, and he stated the punishment in Quran and what will happen to the people who are musicians in after life.

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start using some bloody logic. It might help you get pass the initial phase of a conversation especially when you repeatedly claim "god said X, Y, Z". its bloody annoying and cringe worthy.

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You know Dr. Zakir Nyik a convert muslim said it himself that people will bring acceptions to change Islam just like your beliefs are completely different from believers of Islam. I think I posted a video of it so go ahead watch that for starters.

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You are an intolerant piece of *********. Justifying bigotry with a FAITH and religion. wow.

Just shows that some element of GS users are completely retarded.

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lol Intolerant piece of what? Stars? lol ok Seriously now you are crossing your limit here. What Bigotry is he justifying? Why dont you join Christianity their "holy book" changes every day. That how you wont have to worry about anything. A muslim like you calling himself muslim after whatever you've posted right there is just a pity to yourself. True and strong believers of Islam are not retarded. So there is no bigotry with faith. There is only faith. He clearly didnt ask you to stop doing whatever you are doing. Like Allah stated everywhere in Quran and passed his messages through hadeeses what he desires along with what is wrong and what is right its up to you to follow it, and he stated them giving few waqyas in Quran that people will be stubborn against faith which is what you are doing right now.

I m not sure if someone asked Dr. Zakir nyek that making acceptions or using your own fatwah is haram but I am sure that it is haram. Because it is a common sense and logic that we believe in. Whoever brings something new to Islam is bidati he committed a shirk and is well out casted.

This completely shows how tolerant you are. May Allah shine his light upon you and show you the right path to follow. :)

I will post surahs with translation if I find it regarding this issue.

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Yes it really did. :D

Apologyze to Allah and maybe the original poster whom you quoted.

Humen are most wise creation of Allah and he want us to be happy, enjoy our lives, live freely and lively, and all he asks in return is to keep your grip strong on one true faith in this world known as Islam, we do that by following five pillers of Islam. You have been listening to wrong people. Gussa haraam hay did that mullah from lahore told you that? There are many maulvies walking arround in Pakistan spreading their own fatwaz doesnt mean that its true. They mislead people and also tell them to fight against shiaz. Punishment for musicians, actors and anything related to that in after life is they will be put in a big metal jar and the jar will be set on fire. Jar would be covered from the top and all one will hear then is the screams of pain and enjoy them as we enjoy the music. (Hazrat Mohammad Mustafa ko jab nabuat mil rahi thi to unko jannat aor jahanum dono dikhaye gaye thay. You should read the entire waqya)

So muslims are nut case now. Wow you are really going great. Yes all of that are haram and like I said Allah did tell everyone what is right and what is wrong it is up to everyone to follow the right path. There have been many muslim civilizations without these things and they were soo strong that not even christians would dare break them.

EDIT: Let me add that arts, sculpture, and music is haram because it is a hindu rawaj. Hinduizm and piller worshipping used to be done by music in old ages. The same piller worshipping is why Islam was sent so that people would know what path to walk on. Music also misleads you. For example if you listen to music you will never agree on the fact that it is haram, which is what you are doing. Not only that it will slowly make you stop believing in Islam because music can mislead many people to wrong directions.

That is what you believe in. Anything that is written as wrong in shariya law and you love doing it is what you hate you mean. That is what almost you said there. :)

I can see that you simply cant give 2 craps about what he has to say. By reading your reply. Dont worry many douches today tend to care and then pretend they dont care at all where the fact of the matter is. You all care and fail to admit it. :) When did I say anything about Music being banned? It is haram ofcourse but it is not banned.

You should be ashamed for posting here and telling us that you do not care. This isnt even close to being nagitive as you are to this thread. This is our belief not our ideas which affected humanity overall. You go on with "not careing" and posting here to tell us that you dont and we'll leave with out right beliefs. Read books and learn to read them from the right people and also take quotes from the right people. These misleaders have dulled your sense and may Allah shine his light upon you to show you the right path. May Allah also bless you, your family and forgo whatever you've said against Islam. Ameen.

Discussion ends here.
Fi Amaan Allah

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I literally feel stupid after reading such a dim witted post. Other than the 3rd paragraph, you did not tackle any of my points. I was going to respond to it properly but you rolled out some story means you're not worth discussing facts with. You even ignored where i pleaded with you to give your opinion. The matter of fact is, you cant think for yourself. It would have been great to reply with some logic but you cant. you are a SHEEP.

Apologize to Allah and maybe i will forgive you.

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^your own desires because you feel that sharee'ah rulings are inferior to west's laws and rules. You people just wish that somehow you could get rid of those sharee' rulings which doesn't please you and your kufaar friends. Too bad for you, you have been minority and will remain minority.

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That's correct and I'm sorry for calling him [indirectly] athiest but we should bear this in mind that making fun of Quran and Islam is a type of kufar and may Allah save us from doing that.

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I backed out because you are directly attacking me and others on the 3rd paragraph, because you brought resources from the wrong people and simply are not worth discussing the fact with. I would've implied a logic to prove my points to this entire discussion but I chose to back out because you are simply not worth discussion such discussions with. Also this "discussion" was turning out to be a grudge match and I do not want that.

Good luck with this discussion brah.

lol it is you who needs to Apologyze to Allah, I apologyze to him whenever I pray even if I havent done anything wrong. I dont need forgiveness from you regardless.

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brudda, lets face it, you cant keep up.

hahaha. dont make me laugh. you were most likely going to post a quranic verse and then would've shoved it down my throat. seriously, if i wanted that i couldve just asked my mum.

Unless you can post something logical as to WHY music is banned followed up with points on how it harms society and/or humans on an individual level, i think its time for you to leave the thread.

i could not tolerate your stupidity any longer.

well, I really hope that helps you.

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The lines I have highlighted ib bold reflects your poor knowledge of Islam, sister. Go to Pakistan and ask any religious scholar. Music/movie are very much HARAAM in Islam- listening to music either directly or through tape or TV/movie is haraam. Islamic naat is okay. I read about Salman Ahmad Munafiq and he has Hindu ancestory from UP(India)- what else can you expect from so-called modern muslims? The fat woman in this video doesn't have hijaab :(

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ROFLMAO.
madaam, please put forward a logical reason as to why it is haraam without under toning any notion of hypocrisy.

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There is no such thing as Islamic Naat. That concept was brought after our Prophet's passing on to after life. 400 years later one king brought it to Muslims who were villagers in his town because he was worried that people will stop listening to him.

And I've already stated why music is haram several times in my posts. :)

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hey hey hey!! watch your language, do NOT use the mentally challenged as a tool for degradation! learn to respect humanity first and then talk about religion.

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I am not mentally challenged :(

Also binary number is greater because no matter how many times you multiply it by 2 it'll increase as in 1x2 = 10x2 = 11x2 = 100 and so on.

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Music and Islam

Since you are too lazy to find out for yourself? Read up. :slight_smile:

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that wasn't the point of my post.

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:crying:

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When Sayyidana Abdullah Ibne Mas`ood , a very close companion of our Prophet was asked about the meaning of the term

lahwal hadith, he replied “I swear by Him besides whom there is no other God,that it refers to ghinaa (singing ).”

This statement, he repeated three times. This view is unanimously supported by the four Khalifas, the eminent Sahabaah, Tabi`een, the four Imaams and other reliable Islaamic scholars and authorities.

One hadith from the Bukhari Shareef, the most authentic Book of Hadith, further confirms unlawfulness of music and singing :

There will be people of my Ummah who will seek to make lawful; fornication, wine-drinking and the use of maaazif ( musical instruments ).`

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Why the hell are you quoting stuff that I havent posted and putting my name on it?

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EDIT: Let me add that arts, sculpture, and music is haram because it is a hindu rawaj. Hinduizm and piller worshipping used to be done by music in old ages, like people will organize a ceremoney, a lady dance and there is music. The same piller worshipping is why Islam was sent so that people would know what path to walk on. Music also misleads you. For example if you listen to music you will never agree on the fact that it is haram, which is what you are doing. Not only that it will slowly make you stop believing in Islam because music can mislead many people to wrong directions.

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