Some usefull information-mirzais

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bao bahi welldone.

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Mirza declared the so-called revelation that he had been married with Muhammadi Begum, a respectable lady, in the sky. He kept on harping on this revelation of marriage from 1888 to 1907. Ultimately he wrote these words in his Appendix to Anjam e Atham on page 54.Remember, if the second part of this predication does not come true (i.e. Muhammadi Begum is not married to Mirza after her widowhood), I should be deemed more wicked than any wicked man. O idiots! this is not a human's pretension. This is no business of any depraved impostor. Consider this to be God's true promise, definitely the same God Almighty Whose words are never withdrawn; the same Glorious Nourisher Whose intentions nobody can stop".

But what happened to Mirza's prediction? Far from marriage, Mirza did not see even the shadow of his illusive bride, Muhammadi Begum. He himself admitted in his own words that he was a very wicked man, more wicked than any other wicked.

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… how long do I have to wait to see the whole book scanned.. ( or atleast the part of that book trooper asked for..?)

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Mian Bao Sahib, Why don't you start a seperate post for each page you scanned so they can answer you speratly. AS as far praising Queen and British Gov., everbody did it, I think Allama Iqbal also wrote a beautifull poem to praise Queen and her Gov. I'll post it if I find it on the web somewhere.

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Wow... This stuff is great... I think Im gonna becoma and Ahmedi now:)
You people are all idiots, Islam is a lie!

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i dont think u have any right to ridicule any holy book. the content of the books is for those who follow the religion, they have their interpretation (good or bad). and it should be none of our concern. by posting these pages u r not converting anyone nor educating anyone. just like Quran can be interpreted in various ways, i am sure this book has its own meaning that we cannot understand.

if u want to learn about their religion go do some scholarly research on ur own and discuss with scholars. by making fun of their religion u r merely showing off ur own jahalat and insecurities about ur own iman.

now just browsing through these pages, i do find the language to be bit disturbing but i dont really care whats in it, since i dont believe in it. shoving ur views or rather biases about other religion to other people's throat won't do u any good. it will only lead to more hatred and differences.

apnay amaal apnay saath jayay gai. let them do what they think is right and u follow what u think is right. we are NOT GOD and we not here to judge anyone.

try to be perfect muslim urself first before declaring ur fatwas.

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:confused::confused::confused:

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he never said WE ARE GOD. :nono4:

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^ Well he did until he edited it.

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all your arguments are fine and dandy but at certain points, practicing Islam becomes a little different than that.

There is one thing which is to call people towards what is right, and that is a good amal in Islam. And, a person can become a good muslim once he/she follows as much to what Allah:swt: & Prophet:saw: commanded.

At the time of fitnah, holding your tongue against fitnah is a sin in itself for it can misguide many believers. That was the reason, Hadhrat Abu Bakr :razi: waged the jihaad against the false prophet Muselima Kadhaab. He and other fellow muslims did not stayed quite and said: Lakum denokum walay Yadeen because they knew the context of that ayah. At the present time, unfortunately, we muslims have become so much faithless that we tend to ignore those who insult the prophet:saw: but feel offended if we ourselves are insulted.

There is a very famous hadeeth in which Rasoolulah:saw: said:

If you see an evil, stop it with force (of your hand); if you can’t do that then speak out against it with your tongue and even if that is not possible then atleast think of it as evil in your heart but know that such is the lowest of Imaan.

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Frozen fire- this was what i posted..

I have no problem with producing these images but I deem it useless escercise, there are plenty of other questions to be answered, answer those first …

Suroor-cao

I have just posted the images from thier on books, my point was

A person using such bazari language, praising/supporting the governement who killed so many muslims , who used to lie SHOULD not be regarded as a religous person leave aside whatever he claimed.

I alhumdolilah have read so much about my own religion - islam that is- and this so called religoooous group …and i am more then 100% sure that the person was a imposter…

Here - my rationale for posting it here was to show the true face of this group to muslims. any one thinking what i posted was not right/true should support his claims with facts…

Brother anwaar have explained it quitewell ..

Trooper / zalim – i am still waiting for your answer—

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Bao- If you plan to upload more scaned pages(as requested by some) , inform mods they will unlock the thread.

peace.