Some rare pictures of Nawaz Sharif with General Zia-ul-Haq

[Jolie]

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@Ali_Syed

That's the issue, Musharraf could give him one seat in 2002 and establishment could barely provide him with the third slot in 2013. So much for the darling and creation of the establishment. And like I mentioned above pasha was the ISI chief for 4-5 months after oct 2011.

Like I said, Gen. Zaheer ul Islam is going to be the next buzzword after November. Pasha conspiracy will go out of fashion. There will always be a foolish conspiracy to undermine him. Pakistanis always need a conspiracy theory to sooth and comfort themselves. it's considered a sign of great intellects.

Let's ignore the fact despite not having any power Imran and his party remained the defacto opposition to any government in the last 14 years. People don't seem to realize that lost many loyal supporters and sympathisers when he boycotted 2008 elections. I myself stopped supporting him for a good while after his stupid decision (though the reason were exactly the same as the things he's saying today), but it was given that Imran would bag electoral victory of some kind whenever his party would decide to go to polls, and 2013 was that time. Like it or, people had to wait for a very long time to finally see PTI at the polls.

[Jolie]

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@Decent_6Chora

Exactly

What I am saying is that answer of Imran's past is not how many kamyaab jalsas he is doing.

The magnificence of jalsas are being highlighted because many people - supporters and critics included - thought his decision to do sit ins would finish off his party. According to some predictions, Imran's career should've been all finished three weeks ago. Despite such intense propaganda in the print media, all parties opposition, he still managed to draw such historic crowd in his staunch opponent's backyard is extraordinary. In current circumstances, the jalsa does tell quite an interesting story.

[Decent_6Chora]

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@Jolie

The enormity of jalsas are being highlighted because many people - supporters and critics included - thought his decision to do** sit ins would finish off his part**y. According to some predictions, Imran's career should've been all finished three weeks ago. Despite such intense propaganda in the print media, all parties opposition, he still managed to draw such historic crowd in his staunch opponent's backyard is extraordinary. In current circumstances, the jalsa does tell quite an interesting story.

eh? who thought that? Not me. but Yeah I believe he has missed the exit.

[devilish_angel]

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@Ali_Syed

There's no denying the fact of Pti popularity in urban centers, in free and fair elections they would have won many more seats as compared to the 35 handed them by Pti supporters 'establishment'.

few more from lahore

[devilish_angel]

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@Decent_6Chora

Where did I say that there was no rigging? Where did I say that PML(N) is clean?

I was just stating the fact that Imran got push from Pasha and that will ultimately come out one day.

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pasha likes Imran khan n he wanted to meet him n send message through someone, he didn’t meet ik tht time but this conspiracy evolved k pasha backing ik

[Dhoti_Main_Dhamaka]

میثاقِجمہوریت میں میاں صاحب نے بی بی سے آمر کا ساتھ دینے پر معافی مانگ لی تھی.
یاد رہے بی بی سے ,جس عوام کا خون پی پی کر میاں صاحب سونے کے انڈے دے رہیں ہیں ان سے نہیں بی بی سے.

پلیز کنٹینیو

[Patriotgames]

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@Decent_6Chora

I have yet to hear a verdict from court that Zardari or Shahbaz Sharif took even a $ in corruption

This is a well known fact that Imran supported Musharraf (no a simple opps sorry I did it wont cut it) and he was almost dragged to popularity with the help of Pasha

My friend, I hope you being a Pakistani/Expat of Pakistani origin are aware of Pakistani legal system, how it works, how efficient it is and how easy it is in Pakistan to dodge the law and get away with pretty much any crime you commit. The corruption even in the court of law is so rampant and common that people there say that it is better to hire a judge (pay him) to defend you rather than hiring a lawyer. That is one of the many reasons no crime against any whether a politician or a dictator can be proved in the court of law in Pakistan.

[mahool]

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@devilish_angel

pasha likes Imran khan n he wanted to meet him n send message through someone, he didn’t meet ik tht time but this conspiracy evolved k pasha backing ik

yeh revolution kab hogiya… anwer ankal nay ppp kab chori…

[youngjunction]

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@mahool

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Now you must have to say GO NAWAZ GO…

[Jolie]

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@Decent_6Chora

This is a well known fact that Imran supported Musharraf (no a simple opps sorry I did it wont cut it) and he was almost dragged to popularity with the help of Pasha

Half truth is dangerous. Let's not get selective here.

It is also a well known fact that Imran was the harshest critic of Musharraf! He was one of the key players who made his government increasingly unpopular, and ultimately helped bring it down! His constant and boundary pushing criticism of Pakistan's alliance with USA, participation in WoT, American aid, anti operations views made him extremely unpopular with the military elite.

I don't know if you are trying to suggest that the fact Imran supported Musharraf, hence he must be a military darling. It doesn't make any sense. You are clearly ignoring (or deliberately not mentioning) the years of very public enmity between both men. Musharraf actually hated him.

[Sachaydino]

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Can someone tell me not a very long time ago, Imran Khan’s each procession ended in chaos and mismanagement and very few people used to attend? Imran Khan won KP elections a year ago and performance is still to be judged in coming years. What kind of magic is this that suddenly people are attending his jalsa without him showing any performance or vision. Except that he and his cronies use foul language against opponents.

[Jolie]

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Jewish lobby.

Jews control the world, and now they control Pakistanis.

[Zafra]

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@Jolie

Half truth is dangerous. Let’s not get selective here.

It is also a well known fact that Imran was the harshest critic of Musharraf! He was one of the key players who made his government increasingly unpopular, and ultimately helped bring it down! His constant and boundary pushing criticism of Pakistan’s alliance with USA, participation in WoT, American aid, anti operations views made him extremely unpopular with the military elite.

I don’t know if you are trying to suggest that the fact Imran supported Musharraf, hence he must be a military darling. It doesn’t make any sense. You are clearly ignoring (or deliberately not mentioning) the years of very public enmity between both men. Musharraf actually hated him.

SERIOUSLY?

Portrait: Imran Khan | Sport | The Guardian

You would not have heard such harsh words some years back. After the 1999 military coup, Khan was one of the general’s most ardent supporters, so much so that he claims he was offered the prime minister’s job. “I was charmed by him. I believed this was a man who could set our country straight, end corruption, clear out the political mafias,” he says. But after a blatantly rigged referendum in 2002 extended Musharraf’s grip on power, the myth “began to shatter” he says: “Here was a man who claimed to support democracy and he was rigging the elections, just like [former dictator] General Zia had.”

[Jolie]

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@Zafra

SERIOUSLY?

Portrait: Imran Khan | Sport | The Guardian

Seriously? You are one bad troll. Why do always seem so confused?

Where have I said in my post that he never supported Musharraf?

[Zafra]

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@Jolie

Seriously? You are one bad troll. Please stop confusing yourself.

Where have I said in my post that he never supported Musharraf?

Please tell me where it was a half truth? What you are doing is your normal worship and trying to paint as a saint.

[Jolie]

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@Zafra

Please tell me where it was a half truth? What you are doing is your normal worship and trying to paint as a saint.

Saying that Imran supported Musharraf once upon a time (hence he must be a military darling?) while ignoring the fact that for years both men publicly waged a self destructive war with each other. Yes, it is half truth.

I will say whatever I have to say. Your insecure and extremist self can see as worshipping and whatever. We gonna try and paint Imran as a sinner, but whoever defends him must regard him as a saint....sickening level of backwardness.

[Zafra]

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@Jolie

Saying that Imran supported Musharraf (hence he must be a military darling?) while ignoring the fact that for years both men publicly waged a war with each other. Yes, it is half truth.

I will say whatever I have to say. Your insecure and extremist self can see as worshipping and whatever.

Actually it isn't. The quote is simple. Imran Khan supported Musharraf. Whatever he did doesn't change that fact. Nor does it change the fact that he was offered to be the PM in a military dictatorship. That makes him a military darling as he was chosen to head the military dictatorship.

Those are facts. Not opinions.

And every Pakistani knows its the lawyers that did everything. They stood up and they started everything. IK had no direct impact on Musharraf's removal.

[Jolie]

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@Zafra

Actually it isn't. The quote is simple. Imran Khan supported Musharraf. Whatever he did doesn't change that fact. Nor does it change the fact that he was offered to be the PM in a military dictatorship. That makes him a military darling as he was chosen to head the military dictatorship.

Those are facts. Not opinions.

And every Pakistani knows its the lawyers that did everything. They stood up and they started everything. IK had no direct impact on Musharraf's removal.

Again. Serious comprehension issues and typical tunnel view where everything must be in black and white. I said one of the key players. IK was leading opposition to Musharraf way before lawyers decided to form a movement, and as a politician, he did play his part by doing political activism. It is also a fact.

Yes indeed. Imran supported Musharraf. If your history starts and ends there, then that's your problem. Stick to that. But it is also a fact, that Imran was the harshest critic Musharaf and opposed Pakistani military to a great extent.

I find it funny only few months ago, in the eyes of IK bashers, Imran was the biggest army dushman. LOL

[Zafra]

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@Jolie

Again. Serious comprehension issues and typical tunnel view where everything must be in black and white. I said one of the key players. IK was leading opposition to Musharraf way before lawyers decided to form a movement, and as a politician, he did play his part by doing political activism. It is also a fact.

Yes indeed. Imran supported Musharraf. If your history starts and ends there, then that's your problem. Stick to that. But it is also a fact, that Imran was the harshest critic Musharaf and opposed Pakistani military to a great extent.

I find it funny only few months ago, in the eyes of Noora trolls, Imran was the biggest army dushman. LOL

I deal with reality and facts. Not blind worship. Now there was no half truth. *Now I highly doubt Imran Khan was the harshest critic of Musharraf when he was in Parliament during his entire rule!! *

Others went to jail. Others were exiled. Some were threatened to be executed. Imran Khan however participated in the fraud that were the 2002 and 2007 elections. Frankly Benazir was his harshest critic as she actively went against his rule since day 1.

[Jolie]

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@Zafra

I deal with reality and facts. Not blind worship. Now there was no half truth. *Now I highly doubt Imran Khan was the harshest critic of Musharraf when he was in Parliament during his entire rule!! *

Others went to jail. Others were exiled. Some were threatened to be executed. Imran Khan however participated in the fraud that were the 2002 and 2007 elections. Frankly Benazir was his harshest critic as she actively went against his rule since day 1.

Unlike you I don't worship hatred. You are blinded by hatred. It is height of self delusion and narcissism to always sell your distorted opinions as facts.

Who says, you cannot be harshest critic of someone by remaining in the parliament? I bet you are one of those status quo lovers who think Parliament is supposed to King's fan club, like the current parliament is. Are you saying Imran's decision to remain in the parliament was wrong? More hypocrisy.

By stating cherry picked facts, it helps to check whether they are relevant or not. Imran was not part of the ruling elite when Musharraf did his supposed 'clean up' against the two status quo parties. But he later did go to jail under his regime while other politicians and activists were house arrested.