Some questions

[InToXiCaTeD]

@Jaanwar

Intox you are a douche I have been thinking along the same lines. I do believe, however, that the answers are there. Its just a matter of finding what makes sense to you. I don’t believe in a concept blindly, unless I see logic and sense in it. I am still struggling to understand the whole business of creation, of testing and judgement. Some of the replies here have really helped, setting the direction straight.

Do you think people who follow different path/faith/religion (Peeri/Mureedi one example from this thread, or worshiping idols etc.) don’t see any logic/sense in what they believe and do?

I think you answered that here yourself and that’s what everything boils down to.

Its just a matter of finding what makes sense to you.

People go for different things (seemingly opposite) using rationality and logic as their reasons. And People also go for different things using the faith card … Some one is messing around with us I tell you

I am on a mission, and I will find the answers.

Cool. That’s what I meant when I said “you need to come up with your own answers”. :k:

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Originally Posted by psyah
Allah Loves without the blindness of Love yet more powerfully than many mothers for their children

Allah Hates without the thirst of hatred yet with critical absolute Justice

Allah is Kind without the weakness of kindness yet with unmatched Mercy

and so on … every absolute Attribute of purity belings to Him … yet at the same time it is Unique and does not resemble our version of those traits.

@Jaanwar

Tox - here’s a bit on the emotional control part. Psyah said it beautifully. What makes sense to me is, we try to fit God into our frame of limited understanding. We can associate our emotions with him, but not our limitations. He is the supreme being, he is not subject to our emotional limitations and bias. I do believe the existence of a supreme power, like you do. And I am struggling to understand the sense and logic of the ideas surrounding creation, our existence and judgement, perhaps like you are. There are things that make sense and support each other, the facts, and things that dont hold much sattu. I’m on it.

Now you are making me confused. How does what you quoted from psyah’s post tell us anything about the God?. All I see is that someone is beautifully poeticising how they believe God is or should be like. I have read and come across hundreds, if not thousands of such description of God from different religions. Now I can buy into those exact thoughts and make them parts of my beliefs but that does not mean those beliefs are right (that was your question in your original post, right?). That just means that those beliefs are serving me in a certain way i want them to serve me (peace of mind, to fill the void, certainty of being on the “right path”, following my forefathers, giving into my love/fear/obligation, for the sake of sanity, following the familiar path, just a good enough answer, to feel content, to fit in and so on).

My point is that if you are looking for beliefs-surgery because your current beliefs aren’t serving you the way you want them then you will definitely find something in this thread because all the poetic stuff is so beautiful and tempting and I am sure you will fall for something. But if your intention is to find the right answers then idk, because people will give you “their right answers”.

Who is right? who is wrong? who is judging the right and wrong? idk!

sub pha’nsay hue hein meray dost … her banda sahi hai and at the same time her banda ghalat hai . conscious level per jo kuchh nazar aata hai sub-conscious ki duniya us se bohat mukhtalif hai … and that’s where most of the stuff happens … (btw, that’s my right answer … you don’t have to buy into that ).

Am I successful in f***ing with your mind so far?
yes?
good!!