Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
After all, Barak Obama is a Muslim right?
I think Rush Limbaugh accused him of that.
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
History too proves the intolerant stance of almost all Muslim conquerers - exceptions are there. For us Indians it was Akbar.
But most Pakistani's are taught from early childhood that he was not a true Muslim & is villified - as if to be a true Muslim you have to put down all other religions.
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
i bet many pakistanis think aurungzeb was the greatest muslim ever to live.
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
depends how informed are they.
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
pakistani muslims hate sikhs more than americans do.
your knowledge skills are really great, what grade are you in these days? don't tell me you are in grade 3 or 4.
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
If they are anything like hazara dude then they might as well think of him as God 
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
pakistani muslims hate sikhs more than americans do.
whr do u get this idiotic ideas 4rm. U generalize sooo much, which is so very ignorant
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
You're mixing issues here, OG. Conversion to Christianity from Islam in an Islamic country is the equivalent of treason in any Western country. If you don't like it, take up the issue with Allah and the Prophet Muhammad.
THerefore , being Christian in such country would be dangerous. Because if being non Islamic in an islamic country means treason then the presenter of this post is correct. THe erradication of Christians does exist in Islamic countries and this logically begets the mass migration of christians from Islamic countries.
Hazara's point proven.
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
HAZARA, ALLOW ME TO AIDE YOU IN YOUR POST'S TOPIC IN ESTABLISHING THE VERACITY OF YOUR DEBATE BY PRESENTING HEREIN THE PRACTICE IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES TODAY OF JIZYA
In parts of Pakistan christians and non muslims pay a fee to live or survive , it is called JIZYA. SOme call it a shakedown by the majority religion. SOunds more like a protection racket by the piously minded.
Classification of Non-Muslims:
In his article, "The Ordinances of the People of the Covenant and the Minorities in an Islamic State," Sheikh Najih Ibrahim Ibn Abdullah remarks that legists classify non-Muslims or infidels into two categories: Dar-ul-Harb or the household of War, which refers to non-Muslims who are not bound by a peace treaty, or covenant, and whose blood and property are not protected by the law of vendetta or retaliation; and Dar-us-Salam or the household of Peace, which refers to those who fall into three classifications:
1) Zimmis (those in custody) are non-Muslim subjects who live in Muslim countries and agree to pay the Jizya (tribute) in exchange for protection and safety, and to be subject to Islamic law. These enjoy a permanent covenant.
2) People of the Hudna (truce) are those who sign a peace treaty with Muslims after being defeated in war. They agree to reside in their own land, yet to be subject to the legal jurisprudence of Islam like Zimmis, provided they do not wage war against Muslims.
3) Musta'min (protected one) are persons who come to an Islamic country as messengers, merchants, visitors, or student wanting to learn about Islam. A Musta'min should not wage war against Muslims and he is not obliged to pay Jizya, but he would be urged to embrace Islam. If a Musta'min does not accept Islam, he is allowed to return safely to his own country. Muslims are forbidden to hurt him in any way. When he is back in his own homeland, he is treated as one who belongs to the Household of War.
Muslim Muftis (legal authorities) agree that the contract of the Zimmis should be offered primarily to the People of the Book, that is, Christians and Jews, then to the Magis or Zoroastrians. However, they disagree on whether any contract should be signed with other groups such as communists or atheists. The Hanbalites and the Shafi`ites believe that no contract should be made with the ungodly or those who do not believe in the supreme God. Hanifites and Malikites affirm that the Jizya may be accepted from all infidels regardless of their beliefs and faith in God. Abu Hanifa, however, did not want pagan Arabs to have this option because they are the people of the Prophet. They. must be given only two options: accept Islam or be killed.
**Jizya can only be exempted from the Zimmi who becomes a Muslim or dies. **
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
In parts of Pakistan christians and non muslims pay a fee to live, or survive. SOme call it a shakedown by the majority religion. SOunds more like a protection racket by the piously minded.
Muslims call it a tax :)
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
What can one conclude? Lets look at how the west treats the muslims.
Christians believe that their religion is the true religion of God and Islam is not. Does that mean that Great Britain, which is headed by a Queen, the head of the Anglican Church, should treat its Muslim subjects as a second class? Moreover, why do Muslims in the West enjoy all freedoms allotted to all citizens of these lands, while Muslim countries do not allow native Christians the same freedom? Muslims in the West build mosques, schools, and educational centers and have access to the media without any restriction. They publicly advertise their activities and are allowed to distribute their Islamic materials freely, while native Christians of any Islamic country are not allowed to do so. Why are Christians in the West allowed to embrace any religion they wish without persecution while a person who chooses to convert to another religion in any Islamic country, is considered an apostate and must be killed if he persists in his apostasy? These questions and others are left for readers to ponder.
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
Dont worry there a lot of jews who would like to see muslims and some christians no more on their claimed soil.
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
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"us" who?
my people in afghanistan. i am a hazara, after all :)
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are you Afghanistani citizen?
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
Don’t forget we’re all Gentiles, hence a lesser form of humankind.
Re: some muslims hellbent on eradicating christians from palestine
:)