Some common misconceptions about Shi’ism(merged)

Some common misconceptions about Shi’ism
Saturday 7 Rabi al-Awal 1426

By Shahid Athar M.D.

The centuries-old Shia-Sunni differences are the major obstacle to Muslim unity. These differences have always been fanned by the enemies of Islam to their benefit. Unfortunately, some so-called Muslim scholars on their payroll have also played a key role in keeping these differences alive.

Although I was born into a Sayyid Sunni family, I did not know of many differences while growing up as a child. Our families always respected Imam Hussain (peace be upon him) and his parents and participated in ceremonies marking the anniversary of his martyrdom (the 10th day of the month of Muharram which is called Ashura) by reciting the first chapter of the Quran (al-Fatihah) and other chapters and verses of the Quran and fasted on the ninth and tenth days of that month.

Now when I give lectures on Islam to non-Muslims, one of the questions they always ask me is if I am Shia or Sunni. I ask them if they know the difference. They have no knowledge, other than what has been given to them by the media. So they say Shias are the ones who are the bad guys, the militant version of Islam, and cause all the trouble in the Middle East these days.

These non-Muslim American audiences of mine are surprised to learn that some of the known tyrants like Saddam Hussain and troublemakers like the PLO and Hamas are all Sunnis, just as they are surprised to learn that Tariq Aziz (Iraq’s Foreign Minister) is Christian and not a Muslim.

This is what I say to them about Shi’ites.If Ali Ibn Talib (cousin of Prophet Muhammad) was a Shia, then I am a Shia. If he was a Sunni, then I am a Sunni(i.e., a follower of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). In Islam there are five recognized schools of Divine Law:1) Hanafi; 2) Shafi; 3) Maliki; 4) Hanbali and 5) Jafari.

The first four are called Sunni, and the fifth one, who in addition to following sayings and actions of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), also follows those of Ali and consider him as the rightful successor of the Prophet, are called Shia. The first four have many major theological differences among themselves and according to a Christian friend of mine, The only time Sunnis are united is when they are fighting Shias.Shi’ism started as a political movement (Shia means follower or partisan) to help Ali become successor of Muhammad (PBUH).

Around every successful popular figure, there are some admirers whose own future interests rest with the rise of their leader. Thus in Indiana, we have Friends of Lugar Club, who are hoping that some day Senator Richard Lugar will become a US President. Nationally, we now have a Hillary Rodham Clinton Fan Club with 4,000 members! Thus, there were the Followers of Ali Club which later on became apolitical movement. During the initial battles with unbelievers, Ali, the Sword of Islam, was in the forefront and defeated and killed many of their leaders whose children and grandchildren, even when they became Muslims, always remembered who killed their father (animosity).

Ali was raised by Prophet Muhammad as a child so he knew Islam very well. Thus, when he became a judge, his judgments were based on strict Islamic principles, much to the disappointment of many who expected him to be lenient to the rich and powerful. He was so well respected and trusted by both Caliph Abu Bakr and Umar, that in difficult cases they asked his opinion.

Nevertheless, I tell my non-Muslim audience that both Shia and Sunni have many things in common. They both believe in One God (Allah), follow the same Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as the last Prophet, offer five daily prescribed prayers, perform the prescribed fast in the month of Ramadan, go to Mecca for the pilgrimage (hajj),read the same Quran, and pay the poor-due.

However, my answers can only satisfy my uninformed non-Muslim audience. The Sunni brothers, misguided by western propaganda who are ready to embrace non-Muslims (especially the white ones), in the pretext of invitation to Islam, will not do so for Shia. They are ignorant Sunnis. Our job as a missionary should be to invite both groups to the true Islam and not chase them out. There is a movement in the Sunni world to have Shias labelled as disbelievers. I have been told that Shaykh Bin Baz of Saudi Arabia has declared an edict that the meat of the People of Book (Jews and Christians) is permissible for Sunni Muslims to eat but not the meat slaughtered by Shias.

There are scholars on both sides, like Imam Khomeini and Shaykh Shaltut of al-Azhar who have done their best to minimize these differences and bring unity, but it is not working due to the misinformation prevailing in the common masses of Sunnis about Shi’ism. Thus I am listing their misconceptions of Shia belief and practices. For answers, I have consulted two Shia scholars in America., Dr. A. S. Hashim of Washington and Imam Muhammad Ali Elahi of Detroit.

Professor Seyyed Hossein Nasr wrote to me to ignore and not waste time in responding to such wrong allegations. He also mentioned that a great deal of money and effort is being spent in the last few years to fan the fire of hatred between Shia and Sunni in the Persian Gulf region with obvious political and economical fruits for powers to-be. However, in the interest of Islamic unity, I must deal with the questions rather than shun them. Please note that Imam Jafar (peace be upon him), founder of the Shia school of law, was the teacher of Imam Abu-Hanifa (peace be upon him).

Misconceptions #1: Shias have a different Quran. They add another 10 chapters to the original Quran.

Response: Not true. I have checked many times Quran kept in Shia homes and mosques. I still find it the same as the original Quran. More recently, I took care of an Iranian lady patient hospitalized here. I saw a copy of the Quran by her side. I borrowed it from her and browsed through cover to cover. In Arabic it was the same as our Quran. Of course, since I did not know the Persian language, I can’t say much about the translation. It is a sin to even say that the Quran can be changed or added to by Shia when it is protected by God.

Misconception #2: Some Shia consider Ali as God.

Response: Not true. It is disbelief to even think of such a thing. During the time of Ali, some pagan groups called Gholat did consider Ali as Lord. When he found out, they were burned to death.

Misconception #3: Shias have different declarations of faith and they add to the call to prescribed prayer.

Response: The declaration to become a Muslim, as administered to non-Muslims, is the same. Some Shia add to themselves, Ali is a friend of God (PBUH) or Ali is a spiritual leader of God, after the call to prescribed prayer, but not as part of the call to prescribed prayer.

Misconception #4: Shias do not perform sunnah prayers. Sunnah prayers are non obligatory prayers performed by Prophet Muhammad.

Response: Shias do perform non-obligatory prayers, 36 cycles per day in total, but call it nawafil and not sunnah.

Misconception #5: Some Shia believe the Angel Gabriel made a mistake and prophethood was meant for Ali and not Muhammad (PBUH).

Response: Not true. No Shia thinks of such false claims. Only demented minds think of such questions.

Misconception #6: Shias slander and ridicule the first three caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman) and Prophet Muhammad’s wife, Ayisha.

Response: Shia consider the first three caliphs as great companions and good Muslim administrators, but not spiritual leaders (imams). Imam Jafar Sadiq, whose mother and grand mother came from the line of Abu Bakr, said of Abu Bakr, He gave me birth twice. Ayisha is respected by Shias as the Mother of Believers, as Ali respected her when he sent her back from Basra to Madinah after the Battle of the Camel. If some Shia do slander the three caliphs and Ayisha, they do it out of ignorance and should ask God’s forgiveness.

Misconception # 7: Shias combine all five prayers into one prayer in the evening.

Response: Not true. In Shia mosques, whether in Iran or the USA, all five daily prayers are performed. Some working Shia do combine noon and afternoon and evening and night, but Shia scholars recommend performing them separately. Such combinations may not be ideal, but better than not praying at all. How can a Sunni who does not pray at all be better than a Shia who combines prayers?

Misconception # 8: Shias do not pay zakat (poor-due).

Response: Not true. They not only pay 2.5% left over from savings as zakat, but also an additional 20% as khums or general charity. However, they prefer to pay directly to the needy rather than corrupt Sunni government.

Misconception #9: Shias practice temporary marriages (mutah).

Response: Mutah (temporary marriages) was allowed during the time of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and he himself practiced it. Ibn Zubayr was born out of the temporary marriage. Later on Caliph Umar prohibited it due to social reasons as the Islamic world was rapidly expanding. Shias discourage mutah but do not consider it prohibited. Some do abuse this. As a temporary privilege during travel, it is better than adultery.

Misconception #10: They consider Imams infallible and above the prophets.

Response: Not true. All prophets are born Prophet but as mentioned in Quran about Abraham that after passing the test, a prophet becomes a leader (Imam). Imams are carriers of the message of Islam. Shias consider Ali only as an Imam, but Muhammad (p) is the Prophet (nabi), Messenger (rasul) and leader (imam). With the little knowledge I have, I have tried to do my best as a Sunni in defending my Shia brothers in Islam with the hope and prayer to God Almighty that He will instil love in the heart of the believers and bring us closer to each other so that we jointly can fight our common enemy, Satan and his followers.

May God forgive my mistakes in this article and this book (amin).

Shahid Athar M.D. is Clinical Associate Professor of Internal Medicine and Endocrinology, Indiana University School of Medicine Indianapolis, Indiana, and a writer on Islam.

http://themuslimweekly.com/newspaper/viewfullstory.aspx?NewsID=TW00002505

Thank God, we got that cleared then.

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Shia consider the first three caliphs as great companions and good Muslim administrators, but not spiritual leaders (imams).
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I really don't know what to say about this. I wish the writer would have elaborated his point.

Nonetheless. a good read.

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misconception #1: but they do think that THE REAL QURAN is with Ali and what we have nw is not the real Quran....

2: ismailis (agha khanis) r a good example to prove the point positive....

3: they do think that believing in Allah and Muhammad (saw) as His prophet is not enuff, and one MUST believe in Ali (ra)'s imamat to be a true muslim....

4: maybe nawafil, what about sunnah????

5: dont know how true that one is....

6: not only the first 3 khalifas, and the wives but they curse other most noble companions of the Prophet (saw) as well alling them hypocrites and unbelievers....

the shiaas on this forum will well and truly be found guilty of such a thing....

7: here in Bahrain, they all pray the noon-afternoon prayer and the sunset-night prayer combined....

8: no they dont pay zakat....

9: they do not discourage mutah and it was prohibited by the Prophet (saw) himself and not by Umar (ra)....

10: i was surprised when i heard the shiaas say that "yes, imams r superior to the prophets"

i live in a country thats shiaa majority....
i know many and i know what they believe and practice....

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I really don’t get where exactly this ‘Divine Imaam’ concept originated. :nono:

May Allah guide us !

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#8: no they dont pay zakat…
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In Jafaree fiqh, it’s obligatory to pay zakaat. Whether some ppl pay or not is another matter.

Imam Baqir (a.s.) said “A wealthy person who doesn’t give zakaat from his wealth is neither a mu’min nor a Muslim”

On the Day of Judgement, every person who doesn’t give zakaat from his wealth will have his account settled at the time of questioning and reckoning.

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:clap: A most honorable attempt to bridge differences between people of the same faith. Even though initial reaction will be of sceptism and derision, not to worry you are on the right path. :insha: There will come a day when muslims will be muslims only who respect each other and work together to serve Allah and be an asset to their fellow human beings. :slight_smile:

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Good article :k:
There are indeed very few fundamental differences between two sects, even they are not that grave, but there is too much ignorance.

It is very much documented history that Hazrat Ali (ra) was the most important advisor to all Caliphs, and they all seeked his advice on all important matters, Most of all Hazrat Umar(ra) acted upon advice of Hazrat Ali on all major occasion (sending army for major battles including siege of jerusalem), even some times Hazrat umar gave more weightage to his advice over his own opinion.
Hazrat Umar once said
“If there was no Ali, Umar must have been doomed,”

During the time of Hazrat Ali’s caliphate, his advisor asked why there is so much unrest in in the country, while during the time of earlier caliphs it was very much peaceful ?
Hazrat Ali(ra) replied :“At that time I was their advisor, but now I have advisors like you !” :slight_smile:

In my view, Hazrat Ali was perfectly suitable to be 1st Caliph, but not because of his relation with Holy prophet but purely on merit. His wisdom, khowledge of faith and bravery was un-matched. And Muslims still adore him due to his qualities and Prophet’s love for him.

Same with Hazrat Imam jafar Sadiq. He is most respected among sunnis due to his knowledge and wisdom. And according to his teaching, all caliphs and wives of Prophet :saw: are most respectable. Anyone who curse them (God forbid) is ignorant of the teaching of Noble Imams

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There are no misconception about Shia religion. What they say about Sahaba and Bibi Aeysha is not a secret to anyone.

Strictly for shias....recommend books

Assalam o alaikum

As a thread on misconceptions regarding shia believes is already open....and have made me very confused regarding what eaxctly is shia belief...can shia friends here recmmend me notable writers/ books whose books should i read as authentic shia reference...

this i am saying due to many shia books that i have totaly /shia matter i have ...totaly is in agreement with what is termed in other thread as misconception..

wasalam

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armughal,
misconception #1: but they do think that THE REAL QURAN is with Ali and what we have nw is not the real Quran....

LOL i've never heard that. you're so easily brainwashed.

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Many a esteemed members here have amply and quite frequently substantiated the so called myth #6....and as it stands the rest are all well established facts not myths....

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Thanks for posting G & W, interesting article by Shahid Athar. Clears quite alot of BS up. seems to have gone right thru some thick uns, they seem to jabber on regardless:bukbuk: . I dunn get where these guys get off from? they’re so full o sh!t.

Ne’ertheless, a great effort from Shahid Athar. I say more power to him. :k:

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I don’t think that Dr. Shahid Athar, the author of the article has been very honest with stating the Shia beliefs. He has feigned at some of the Shia beliefs especially Misconception #6, Misconception #9 and Misconception 10

Now I will state my comments.

Misconceptions #1: Shias have a different Quran. They add another 10 chapters to the original Quran.

It is true that Shias do not believe that they have different Quran but have the belief that the present Quran in not in the correct sequence.

The problems arises that literally hundreds of Shia hadiths are attributed to their Imams claiming that:

  1. this Quran is not the correct one and that the real Quran is with the Imams.
  2. the Quran was altered by the Companions
  3. many chapters of the Quran are missing

Many prominent Shia Scholars who are held in high esteem have defended the above beliefs.

Misconception #2: Some Shia consider Ali as God.

This is not a misconception as there are “the 'Alawi Nusayriyah are one of several groups of extremist Shi’a sects known as the Ghulaat (exaggerators). While most Shi’a groups revere 'Ali and his family, the Ghulat have gone beyond veneration, considering 'Ali to be the very manifestation God.”

http://www.angelfire.com/az/rescon/mgcalawi.html

The Imamis (Twelvers about 90% of the Shia) abhour this concept

Misconception #3: Shias have different declarations of faith and they add to the call to prescribed prayer.

I bear witness that there is no deity besides Allaah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allaah** and that Ali is the Wali of Allaah**

Shias do customarily do add “and that Ali is the Wali of Allaah” to express loyalty to Ali (ra).

Misconception #4: Shias do not perform sunnah prayers. Sunnah prayers are non obligatory prayers performed by Prophet Muhammad.

Response: Shias do perform non-obligatory prayers, 36 cycles per day in total, but call it nawafil and not sunnah.

This is true that Shias classify prayers as Fard (Obligatory) and Nawafil (non-obligatory) and not as most Sunnis do ( Fard and Sunnah). Among the Sunnis the followers of Imam Shafi’ classify the prayers as the Shias do.

Misconception #5: Some Shia believe the Angel Gabriel made a mistake and prophethood was meant for Ali and not Muhammad (PBUH).

This is not the view held by the Shias but then there were and are these Ghulaat (exaggerators) Sects within Shia who hold this view but not the Imamis (Twelvers) who are about 90% of the Shia.

Misconception #6: Shias slander and ridicule the first three caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman) and Prophet Muhammad’s wife, Ayisha.

I think Dr. Shahid Athar is trying to hoodwink everyone with what he has stated.

Misconception # 7: Shias combine all five prayers into one prayer in the evening.

Sunnis differ with Shias when they habitually combine Zuhr prayers with Asr and Maghrib prayers with that of Isha. Yes, the Prophet (saw) did combine these prayers about 11 times in his life but his normal practice was to perform his prayers on their respect times.

Misconception # 8: Shias do not pay zakat (poor-due).

What Dr. Shahid Athar has stated is true.

Misconception #9: Shias practice temporary marriages (mutah).

In Shia temporary marriage (mutah) is halal.

Dr. Shahid Athar should know better that it was the Prophet (saw) who banned the practice of temporary marriages (mutah).

Misconception #10: They consider Imams infallible and above the prophets.

I think Dr. Shahid Athar is trying again to hoodwink everyone with what he has stated.

Shias do believe that Station of Imamate is higher that of Prophet hood. In Shia belief the infallible Imams do higher rank than other Prophets accept of Prophet Muhammad (saw).

I stand to be corrected by Shia sisters and brothers on this Board.

Dr. Shahid Athar stated “May God forgive my mistakes in this article and this book (amin).”

There were many mistakes in Dr. Shahid Athar’s article. If they were deliberate than he has to really work hard for forgiveness; and if not deliberate than he is ignorant; some of the Shia Guppies can teach him better.

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he is a doctor my friend...he is not a religious scholer..most of what he wrote is correct

ghullat, nusairi, ismaili etc................they are not shias..shia of Imam Ali (a.s.) believes in all 12 Imams and and if the person does not then he is not a shia

p.s. i am still trying to find those references...havnt forgotten about it...will get back to you once i have something..thanks

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Then he better stick his practice and stop peddling lob-sided articles on religion.

My dear **Sheraz CT ** the Shias are classified as:

Zaidis - the ‘Fivers’

Ismailis and Bohras - the ‘Seveners’

Imamis - the ‘Twelvers’

Ahlul Gulaat - the ‘Exaggerators’

So you do agree that he has erred quite a lot. That’s the reason I wrote the following in my first post in this thread:

Importantly to me, do you agree what I have stated?

Just remind what it was about, I seem to have forgotten about them.

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The Nusairees are not considered as shias.

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**Misconception #9: Shias practice temporary marriages (mutah).

**In Shia temporary marriage (mutah) is halal.

Dr. Shahid Athar should know better that it was the Prophet (saw) who banned the practice of temporary marriages (mutah).

That's a damn lie, Sadique, and you know it.

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yes, dr shahid does seem a lil confused about the misconception # 6

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indeed Hazrat Ali was raised by prophet mohammed (SAW) even then Prophet Muhammed (SAW) said if there would be any prophet after me he will be Hazrat Omar".
why dint he say Hazrat Ali or Hazrat Hussan or Hazrat Hassan.
Shia's says "ya ali madad" (oh Ali help us), now Hazrat Ali has become Greater then Allah (unaowzobela)

anniversary of Hazrat Hussan martyrdom on 10th of Muharram has our prophet muhammed(saw) ask us to do it has he mention it any where.
Prophet Muhmmad (saw) said if any one dies dont feal sorrow for more then three days.
and Prophet Muhammed(saw) also said dont feal sorrow for any one who embrace "shahdet" even for one day.

i dont under stand with these two "Hadis" where does anniversary of Hazrat Hussan martyrdom on 10th of Muharram stands.

"Shahadet" is Allah's greatest geft to any muslim and "Sahaba" pray to Allah for "Shahadet"
and Hazzrat Hussan embrace "Shadet" and you people cry and beat your self at that day
every year and attend these "Ashura".
Do Prophet Muhammed(SAW) arrange any "Ashuar" or did he(SAW) ask to do it?

Allah has clearly said i will protect Quran.
Shias belief that the present Quran in not in the correct sequence.
it means they belevie Allah said about protecting Quran by him self was wrong (unaowzobila).

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^ another idiotic sunni posting on gs.