Re: So Who Is The Real Whiner???
100% agreed and as far as I know, NOBODY wants to have kids, your own or somebody else’s, to destroy and destruct everything that is in the view only because " the kids will always be the kids".
When I and my siblings were young, we used to be told how to behave and the entire list of should-dos and should not dos would be repeated every time we would go out somewhere and if we got caught doing something that is inappropriate and unacceptable, my mom would give us “the look” and that would tell us that a talk is on it way as soon as we get outta here. My immediate family such as khalas, phuphos, mammoos etc. were also told by my mom to correct us if we are being mischievious right there and then. And for the information of the thread starter, we had a great childhood and none of the three of us turned out to be a psychopath who goes on a killing rampage or something because my mom chose to be strict in raising us and imbibed the concept of appropriate and inappropriate behvaiour in us right since the childhood.
Personally, I would raise my own kids the same way my mom raised us because I myseld cannot stand kids who are brash, wild, and have no manners of how to behave among a bunch of people. But it’s actually their parents, who are to be blamed, who defend their kids and get all whiney and grudged up if they are corrected.
Man, some Pakistani parents 
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