Re: So Who Is The Real Whiner???????
Off topic, but can anyone provide its reference?
According to some explanations and in the light of other ahadith, this hadith goes for both male and female. And the context is that don't marry them because of their status and wealth but for their loving chracter and also the purpose of marriage is not procreation but to protect ourselves from promiscuity.
Hope it clarifies. :)
May Allah bless you.
Re: So Who Is The Real Whiner???
100% agreed and as far as I know, NOBODY wants to have kids, your own or somebody else’s, to destroy and destruct everything that is in the view only because " the kids will always be the kids".
When I and my siblings were young, we used to be told how to behave and the entire list of should-dos and should not dos would be repeated every time we would go out somewhere and if we got caught doing something that is inappropriate and unacceptable, my mom would give us “the look” and that would tell us that a talk is on it way as soon as we get outta here. My immediate family such as khalas, phuphos, mammoos etc. were also told by my mom to correct us if we are being mischievious right there and then. And for the information of the thread starter, we had a great childhood and none of the three of us turned out to be a psychopath who goes on a killing rampage or something because my mom chose to be strict in raising us and imbibed the concept of appropriate and inappropriate behvaiour in us right since the childhood.
Personally, I would raise my own kids the same way my mom raised us because I myseld cannot stand kids who are brash, wild, and have no manners of how to behave among a bunch of people. But it’s actually their parents, who are to be blamed, who defend their kids and get all whiney and grudged up if they are corrected.
Man, some Pakistani parents 
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Re: So Who Is The Real Whiner???????
Sorry I read only Mama of 3's post why? because she used color lol. Yeah and long post. I haven't seen before.
One thing I read When saw Sara's post and read a line. Why all perfect mom's are on GS.
The answer or reason is. Ppl who use boards or forums are the ppl try to become perfect and these kind of ppl sometimes or most of the time or few times doesn't relate to ppl out there so mostly ppl like this on the forums.
This is the reason they are perfect mom. It's not GS requirement it's because those ppl looks for the way to kill their time and find ppl like themselves and wallah they get these forum or boards.
Those ladies or moms who has budtameez types of kids are either not that much litterate or don't use computer or spend their time with real ppl.