So what happens if Blix does find something? (merged)

Obviously Blix is getting some better intelligence:

Tuesday, 14 January, 2003, 11:28 GMT
Iraq inspectors find ‘suspect material’

The military build-up is putting pressure on inspectors

Weapons experts in Iraq have found large quantities of illegally smuggled materials, chief inspector Hans Blix has said.
But they have not yet determined if they are related to weapons of mass destruction such as nuclear bombs or chemical warfare, Mr Blix said in a BBC interview.

Re: So what happens if Blix does find something?

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Obviously Blix is getting some better intelligence:

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I sure hope he aint getting that intelligence from Bush's advisors :D
Remember those aluminum tubes we heard so much about as Bush beat the drums of war?
Bush's words: "Iraq has made several attempts to buy high-strength aluminum tubes used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons"

But International Atomic Energy Agency report stated, they were the wrong kind of tubes for producing nuclear weapons material.

Further statements from Blix:

U.N.'s Blix Says Iraq Smuggled Arms-Related Goods
Tue January 14, 2003 08:29 AM ET
LONDON (Reuters) - Chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix has said his teams in Iraq have uncovered weapons-related smuggling but it was unclear if the goods were linked to weapons of mass destruction.
Currency traders said the dollar slipped briefly on the report, coming close to a three-year low against the euro and testing the day’s low against the safe-haven Swiss franc.

“We have found several cases where it is clear that Iraq has imported weapons-related material in violation of the prohibitions of the Security Council,” he told the BBC in an interview broadcast late Monday.

"Whether these discoveries or items are related to weapons of mass destruction is a matter which we still need to determine.

“There has been a considerable amount of import in the weapons sector which clearly is smuggling, and in violation, and they are in fact large quantities,” Blix said.

The dollar has fallen sharply in recent weeks partly on concerns about a U.S.-led military strike against Iraq.
http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=2041064

Chances are, Blix will find tons of such 'illegal' stuff. Heres a list of some of the things, the import of which has been banned for Iraq, since they can be used to make WMD, according to the US govt.

What would you do OG, if you were denied the import/purchase of toilet paper?

Dont ask me for the source of this list. You can check it in the UN archives...

***Accumulators

Adhesive paper

Aluminium foil

AM-FM receivers

Ambulances

Amplifiers

Answering machines

Armored cable

Ashtrays

Auto polish

Axes

Bags

Baking soda

Balls (for children, for sport)

Baskets

Bath brushes

Batteries

Battery chargers

Beads

Bearings

Bed lamps

Belts

Benches

Bicycles

Books (all categories included)

Bottles

Bowls

Boxes

Brass

Broilers

Busses

Calculators

Cameras

Candles

Candlesticks

Canvas (yes, there are also painters in Iraq, didn't you know ?)

Carpets

Cars

Carts

Carving knives

Cellophane

Chairs

Chalk

Chess boards

Chiffon

Children's wear

Chisels Clocks

Cloth

Chlorine

Clutches

Coats

Coaxial cable

Cogs

Coils

Colors for painting

Combs

Compressors (for cooling equipment) (Iraq is a hot country)

Computers and computer supplies

Copper

Cupboards

Cups Desk lamps

Desks

Detergents

Dictaphones

Dishware

Dishwashers

Dolls

Doorknobs

Doormats

Drawing knives

Dresses

Drills

Dryers

Dustcloths

Dyes

Dynamos

Easels

Electric cookers

Electric cords

Envelopes

Eyeglasses

Fabrics

Fans

Fax machines

Fibers

Files

Filing cabinets

Filing cards

Films

Filters

Flashlights

Flowerpots

Forks

Fountain pens

Furniture polish

Fuses

Gas burners

Gauges

Generators

Girdles

Glass

Glue

Gowns

Grills

Grindstone

Hairpins

Hammers

Handkerchiefs

Hats

Headlights

Headphones

Hearing aids

Hedge trimmers

Helmets

Hoes

Hooks

Hookup wires

Hoses

Hydraulic jacks

Ink (read: The prohibition on writing)

Ink cartridges

Insulator strips

Interruptors

Jackets

Jacks

Joints

Jumpers

Kettles

Knives

Lamp shades

Lathes

Lawn mowers

Leather

Levers

Light bulbs

Light meters

Lime

Magazines (including scientific and medical journals)

Magnesium

Magnets

Masonite

Mastic

Matches

Measurings equipment

Mica

Microfiche

Microphones

Microscopes

Mirrors

Mops

Motorbikes

Motors

Mufflers

Mugs

Music cassettes

Music CDs

Musical instruments

Nail brushes

Nail files

Napkins

Notebooks

Oil cans

Oil gauges

Oil lamps

Oscillators

Packaging materials

Pails

Painters' brushes

Paints

Pans

Paper clips

Paper for printing

Paper for wrapping

Paper for writing

Pens

Percolators

Pesticides

Photocopiers

Photometers

Pincers

Pincettes

Pins

Plastics

Plates

Plexiglas

Pliers

Plugs

Plywood

Porcelain

Pots

Potties

Press drills

Pressure cookers

Printing equipment

Pulleys

Putty

Radiators for cars

Razor blades

Razors

Reels

Relays

Riveters

Roasters

Rubber

Rugs

Rulers

Sandals

Sandpaper

Saucers

Saws

Scales

Scoreboards

Screws

Seals

Seats

Shampoo

Sheers

Shelves

Shirts

Shock absorbers

Shoe polish

Shoes

Shoppint carts

Shovels

Silicon

Silver polish

Skirts

Soap

Soap pads

Sockets

Socks

Solder

Soldering irons

Spark plugs

Spatulas

Sponges

Spoons

Stamps

Staplers

Starters

Stoves

Straps

Suits

Sun hats

Swimming suits

Switches

Tables

Tacks

Tags

Telephone cables

Telephones

Tents

Thermomethers

Threads

Timber

Timers

Tin

Tire pumps

Tissue paper

Toasters

Toilet paper (not considered medicines)

Tongs

Toothbrushes

Toothpicks

Towels

Toys (read: UN punishment of children)

Tractors

Transformers

Trash cans

Tripods

Troughs

Trousers

Trowels

Trucks

Trunks

TV sets

Typewriters

Vacuum cleaners

Valves

Vans

Vaseline

Vases

Venetian blinds

Ventilators

Videotapes

Voltage regulators

Waffle irons

Wagons

Wallets

Wallpaper

Washing machines

Wastepaper baskets

Watches

Water pumps

Wax

Welders

Wheelbarrows

Wheels

Window shades

Wood

Wool

Wrenches

Zoom lenses***

And this is just a partial list!

Akif,

Blix found:

"We have found several cases where it is clear that Iraq has imported weapons-related material in violation of the prohibitions of the Security Council," he told the BBC in an interview broadcast late Monday. "

If he can import "weapons-related material" it should not be so hard to import items from your list no? Do you really think Hans-the-Meek would have said anything if he found a pile of toiletpaper in a warehouse?

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***Accumulators

Toothpicks


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damit akif, toothpicks are dangerous, mcguyver can make some dangerous stuff out of it :)

btw I also read that hoes are not allowed? I suppose that rules out a brittany spears concert there? ;)

Ohio, Arabs wipe their ass with hands.

OG...
According to the definition of the items I listed above, they are classified as "dual use items" which can be used to wipe ones rear, and also to wipe the barrel of a chicken pox missile.
So yes, if Blix finds toilet paper, he can legally call it 'weapons related stuff', since it has been classified as a dual use item:)

But apparently the Baghdad International House of Pancakes can only serve pancakes, not waffles.

Since the induction of smart sanctions the list Akif provided is at best mistaken or at worst crummy and false propaganda. That said, actions by Saddam have had punishing effects on nearly all innocent Iraqis.

I suppose 1.7 million iraqis dying as a direct result of war and the draconian sanctions should be considered a great achievement for international justice, especially the one practiced by the Bush Administration.. :disgust:

No, I don't think so Dil, the sanctions have been an overall failure. As we speak the Administration is making preparations so those sanctions can be removed.

Utd, is that before or after another 500,000 Iraqi casualties in the next attack on Iraq? :disgust:

Its true UTD, that the above list is a part of the original Goods Review List (GRL) compiled immediately after the gulf war. The fact that this list was implemented for a good 9 years alone is a matter of shame for the UN. And what followed in the form of so called smart sanctions is still far from being logical. Items like gloves (needed for hospitals), respirators (needed for patients), helmets?, plants and tires still remain in this joke of a sanctions program.

Heres the link for the list. Its a long pdf file. The indexed list starts at page 307.
http://ods-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N02/389/54/PDF/N0238954.pdf?OpenElement

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**The fact that this list was implemented for a good 9 years alone is a matter of shame for the UN. And what followed in the form of so called smart sanctions is still far from being logical. Items like gloves (needed for hospitals), respirators (needed for patients), helmets?, plants and tires still remain in this joke of a sanctions program.
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Well-stated, Akif.

Akif, the link is asking for a password. Items such as gloves were placed on the ‘Fast Track’ list and are available in Iraq as well as thousands of other items which can be found here…

The nation that can’t even make an ashtray or a belt, says a lot about its people.

Right.

Not so miserly on the credit, please. i suppose the Babylonian civilization did not emerge in Iraq, it fell from the clouds.

The nation that prevents children from accessing medicines, says a lot about its people. :rolleyes:

I didn't know belt was considered a medicine in Iraq.. thanks for the info though. If they can construct 400 palaces, I am sure they can manufacture belts, or may be use the ring that goes on their head to tie their pants.

Nadia, you are aware that Iraq has been caught exporting food, baby powder, baby bottles, and other nursing materials correct?