why the eff does the Bush Administration indulge in dramatics.. it’s made up it’s mind.. just go attack already and be done with it.
The idiotic propganda is really really embarrassing for those of us with an iota of logic left. Just get it over with.. no one dare say nothing for the fear of being labelled a ‘terrorist sympathizer’ and a threat to national security detainable under the Patriot Act. 
How do you get a figure of half a million deaths,do you just pull it from the air,or does it just sound like a good figure?
Go figure!
Braveheart, you seem to be misinformed about Iraq and other issues..
Fears Iraq war could set off humanitarian crisis](http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/01/13/iraqhumanitarian030113) CBC Canada 13 Jan 03
UNITED NATIONS - Iraq’s neighbours and foreign aid agencies fear that any U.S.-led invasion could set off a serious humanitarian crisis. A UN document drawn up last month says a war in Iraq could cause 500,000 casualties, create 900,000 refugees and displace another two million people.
The UN High Commissioner for Refugees says power, water, communications and oil installations could be devastated. The agency says it is not talking about its report because it wants to avoid any impression that the UN has concluded war is inevitable.
Also
U.N. Sees 500,000 Iraqi Casualties at Start of War](http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=2004746) Reuters 07 Jan 03
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - As many as half a million Iraqis could require medical treatment as a result of serious injuries suffered in the early stages of a war on Iraq, U.N. emergency planners said in a document disclosed Tuesday.
That’s a bit perplexing; why quote an act from the Iraqi government - that is perceived to be the incarnate of Hitler’s itself - and simultaneously expect him to show compassion towards children ? If he is so evil, why do you expect him to do anything better - don’t we believe our own propaganda? We ourselves, the supposedly democratic and freedom-loving countries of the world, have imposed a trade embargo over a decade ago that, according to the UN Security Council itself, is responsible for a massive humanitarian crisis in Iraq, and yet we expect Hitler’s incarnate govt. to act better than ourselves.
IMHO a bit hypocritical to expect noble and humanitarian acts from others than we ourselves illustrate - particularly from the very entities that are supposed to be so evil in nature. If he is evil, he’s not going to do anything to help anyone except himself. If we are the supposedly human rights-loving administrations, then we would rise above that standard rather than imitating it.
So where did the chemicals from the chemical weapons go?
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) – U.N. weapons inspectors Thursday found a number of empty chemical warheads and another one that is still being evaluated, and the warheads are in “excellent condition,” according to a U.N. spokesman.
Inspectors also visited private homes for the first time Thursday, as the chief U.N. inspector described the situation in Iraq as “very tense and very dangerous.”
A team from the U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) made the warhead discovery at the Ukhaider ammunition storage area, 150 kilometers (93 miles) southwest of Baghdad, where they went to inspect a large group of bunkers constructed in the late 1990s.
The inspectors found 11 empty 122 mm chemical warheads and one warhead that requires further evaluation. The warheads are similar to ones imported by Iraq during the late 1980s, the spokesman said.
I'm the only one I guess who finds this notion of "proving a negative" absurd..
How can anyone prove they DON"T have anything?? The burden of proof is on the world community to PROVE if Iraq has something..
When u don't find anything in Iraq what does it mean??
or as Ronald draft-dodger Rumsfeld would say:
This is now getting far more stupid than the average intelligence of Americans even.
PA,
Perhaps it would be absurd, except that previous records showed that the following were produced, but are apparently “lost”. How does one lose these things?
IRAQI MATERIEL UNACCOUNTED FOR
Nearly four tons of VX nerve agents
Growth media for 20,000 litres of biological warfare agents
15,000 shells for use in biological warfare
6,000 chemical warfare bombs
Nuclear information
Good point PA, but what happened to the inventory that they did have? Did it disappear into the air? They had huge stocks of chems and bios that are no where to be found. Syria is only one of the suspicions, Al-Qaeda the other. You know even BBBhutto lied thru her teeth to the US Congress (to a thunderous applaud) when she was PM (Pakistan has no nuclear ambitions!!). You don’t want to see a repeat?
PakistaniAbroad,
Iraq "must provide evidence of action it says it took to destroy stocks of banned weapons after previous U.N. teams left in 1998." They have not done so. Now the UN have found empty warheads, why didn't Iraq tell the UN they had these?
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How do you get a figure of half a million deaths,do you just pull it from the air,or does it just sound like a good figure?
Go figure!
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What about 50,000-100,000 deaths?
or around 2000 (~ 911 casualties)
Is this number acceptable enough for American people?
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This is now getting far more stupid than the average intelligence of Americans even.
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To what people are you comparing the "average intelligence of Americans?" Just curious as to which nationality deserves your designation of "above average intelligence".
This is hilarious! 
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Rumsfeld: Lack of evidence could mean Iraq’s hiding something **
Chemical warheads seized in Iraq
United Nations weapons inspectors in Iraq say they have found nearly a dozen empty chemical warheads while searching an ammunition storage depot.
IRAQI MATERIEL UNACCOUNTED FOR
Nearly four tons of VX nerve agents
Growth media for 20,000 litres of biological warfare agents
15,000 shells for use in biological warfare
6,000 chemical warfare bombs
Nuclear information
Eleven warheads which could be used to carry chemical warfare agents were found at the Ukhaider depot and are currently being examined by experts, a UN spokesman said.
“The warheads were in excellent condition and were similar to ones imported by Iraq during the late 1980s,” said Hiro Ueki.
He did not elaborate on the significance of the find, but the UN office in Baghdad has since told the BBC that they did not consider the discovery to be a “smoking gun” at the present time.
Iraq - which has insisted throughout the current crisis that it does not possess chemical weapons - dismissed the find as “old rockets” which had long been forgotten.
The US has threatened military action against Iraq if the country is found to have breached a recent UN resolution which obliged it to list all its weapons and provide unfettered access to arms inspectors.
It remains very unclear whether the discovery of warheads without any suspicious agents attached could be classed as a breach.
The BBC’s defence correspondent Jonathan Marcus says on its own, the find may not be a smoking gun, but it may be viewed by the US and Britain as part of a pattern of infringements by Iraq.
Much, he says, now depends on how chief weapons inspector Hans Blix assesses the discovery.
Warning
The find comes shortly after Mr Blix called on Iraq to do more to substantiate its claims that it has destroyed banned weapons, or risk a US-led war.
Mr Blix, briefing EU officials in Brussels, said Iraq had to either provide evidence - such as archives and budgets - to prove that it had destroyed the suspected weapons of mass destruction, or surrender what they might have for destruction under supervision.
Mr Blix - who is going to Baghdad at the weekend - said the message he was sending to Iraqi leaders was that “the situation is very tense and very dangerous”.
Next steps in full
The chief Iraqi liaison officer, General Hossam Mohammed Amin - who had earlier praised the inspectors - declared they were making “a storm in a teacup” over the find at the Ukhaider depot.
“These are 122mm rockets with an empty warhead. There are no chemical or biological agents or weapons of mass destruction or linked to weapons of mass destruction,” he told a news conference.
“These rockets are expired…forgotten,” he said.
The general had earlier on Thursday said the inspectors were doing their jobs properly and behaving well, despite the team’s first visit to two private homes, where they interviewed Iraqi nuclear scientists.
Another top aide had said: “All is going well”.
“There are some complaints here and there and there but we expect to resolve [them] on Sunday,” Amir al-Saadi said, referring to the forthcoming visit of Mr Blix to Baghdad.
‘Important date’
President George Bush’s spokesman Ari Fleischer has meanwhile insisted that the submission of Mr Blix’s report on 27 January is “an important date”.
“Beyond that, events will dictate timetables,” he said.
Mr Blix has sought to downplay the significance of 27 January, saying he expected the Council to demand another report in February.
The US is reportedly increasing pressure on Mr Blix to scrap plans for another report on 27 March.
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To what people are you comparing the "average intelligence of Americans?" Just curious as to which nationality deserves your designation of "above average intelligence".
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let's not take it personally Seminole, when I say 'American' I take the liberty of including myself too... All at the end of that boob tube spewing disinformation count as americans of average intellect.
empty warheads do not a WMD make..
The Iraq-al-Qaida link is as absurd as a BJP MMA one.. everyone knows Iraq is much secular and Bin Laden had even offered the Saudis protection against the likes of Saddam so the Americans could return.
PA. Saddam will do anything it takes to stay the monster that he is. He is a master of mischief. Secular, sure, but also fascist. And empty warheads didn’t contain potatoes in em.
Now that the UN is receiving intel from the U.S. I would think more discovers are on there way.
Yesterday Hans Blix warned Iraq, today he found Chemical warheads, no question how politics manipulation works, which then turns out to be a dirty little ‘W’ word. 
found stuff 2day
they can find more ‘empty’ ammo at my neighborhod army surplus store ..