This is a serious question to Ahmediz. Please answer straight forward.
Was he all of the following or only one of them?
Promissed Massiah (as) was the Imam Mahdi of this age, the same Massiah and Mahdi as prophecised in Quran and Ahadith.
The second appearance and being God and Krishna are just the exaggerations form Mullahs..
I will wait for other Ahmediz to answer this as well. Then I will show Mirza's own claims from his very own books.
Don't worry about the rest.. just bring on the objections..
ONE AT A TIME..
Smooth guy. Here is the answer.
All the great religion of the worlds were waiting for a reformer. Budhest waiting for 2nd reincarnation fo Budha, Christian waitng for 2nd cmoing fo christ. Muslim waiting for Imam Mehdi, Jews still waiting for Christ, Hindus wating for Karishna. So lets see if all these people appear, literaly, where does the Khatmiyyet of Holy Prophet (saw) stand. How the world will get togather under one Banner. The solution to all of this is One man will appear who will have the qualities of all these combine in him. For a budhist he will be budha, for christain he will be christ for muslim he will be Imam mehdi like that.
So the claim of Hazret Mirza Ghulam Ahmad summries up in one Imam mehdi and the PROMISED one to reform the religion.
Though I am sure some others can give you a better detailed answer, here are my two quick cents:
Your 1, 2 & 3 are essentially the same!
Masiah is Urdu for Messiah (English), which is another common name of Hazrat Isa :as: ! The word Maood means, the one who is prophesized. And so Mirza Sahib :as: is also referred to as the Promised Messiah, the English translation of “Masih-e-Maood”. The Messiah to come was a prophet of Allah and is called the Messiah as he will be the like Jesus was onto the Israelites.
Baroziya’at is more so understood as the mirror image (which is never equal to the original), and is a concept tied together with the first few verses of Surah Juma. Where it is a prophesized that holy people like Sahabah will appear in another time & when asked to AnHazoor :saw: if he is to return again in the later days, as Sahaba’s are essentially the companions of AnHazoor :saw:. To which he replied that it will be the followers of the Mahdi who’s appearance will be like the second coming of AnHazoor :saw:
Your (5) is the first time I have heard of it.
Oh & BTW, why a seperate thread?
For those who believes him as Masseeh and/or Prophet or any combination of the points 1-2-3 read his words below. I think he himself was not sure who is he 
look at the contradictory statements.
I have no Teacher:
“Mahdi is not a student of anybody. I swear that this is exactly my condition. Nobody can prove that any human has taught me Quran.” (Roohani Khazain vol 14 p.394)
I have following teachers:
“At 10 years of age an Arabic Teacher was appointed for me whose name was Fazal Ahmed …and when I was 17-18 years of age I was taught by another Molvi Saheb, whose name was Gul Ali Shah, who was appointed by my father in Qadian to teach me.” (Roohani Khazain vol 13 p.180)
“When I was 6-7 yrears old, a persian teacher was employed for me who taught me Holy Quran …and his name was Fazal Ilahi.” (Roohani Khazain vol 13 p.180)
I am not a prophet:
“How can it be permitted that I claim prophethood and go out of the fold of Islam and join the party of Kaafirs?” (Humamatul Bushra, Roohani Khazain vo.7 p.297)
“O People!.. Do not be an enemy of Quran and after Khatamun Nabiyeen do not start new silsila of prophetic revelation.” (Asmani Faisla, Roohani Khazain vol.4 p.335)
“Can such a wretched fabricator who claims himself to be a prophet and messenger, have faith in Quran, and can such a person who have faith in Quran and believes the verse: ‘wa laakin Rasoolullah wa Khatemun Nabiyeen’ to be the word of Allah, say that I am also a messenger and prophet after Holy Prophet SAAW?” (Anjame Atham, Roohani Khazain vol.11 p.297)
“I am neither a claimant of prophethood and nor I deny miracles, angels and Night of Power … and after Syedna wa Maulana Muhammad SAAW, Khatemul Mursaleen, i consider any claimaint of prophethood and messengership to be a liar and kaafir.” (Tableeghe Risalat vol.2 p.22, Collection of Advertisements vol.1 p.230)
I am Prophet:
“I swear upon God in whose hands is my life, He has sent me, He only has named me prophet and He only has sent me as Promised Messiah.” (Tatumma Haqeeqatul Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.503)
“True God is that God who has sent His Prophet in Qadian.” (Dafa alBala p.11, Roohani Khazain vol.18 p.231)
I am not Promised Messiah
“I have never claimed that I am Messiah Ibne Maryam and he who accuses me of such a thing, he is absolutely a liar and a fabricator.” (Izala-e-Auham, Roohani Khazain vol.3 192)
“This humble self has simply claimed to be a Maseel Maseeh, which foolish people have thought to be Promised Messiah…” (Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.192)
I am Promised Messiah:
“I claim that I am the Promised Messiah, about whom all the Holy Books of God have foretold that he will appear in the last days.” (Roohani Khazain vol.17 p.295)
“I swear upon that God upon whom to fabricate is the job of accursed ones, He has sent me as Promised Messiah.” (Collection of Advertisement of Mirza Goolam vol.3 p.435)
to Nr 5.
I can only guess, may be smooth will give the ref where Hz Masih Maood(as) saw in DREAM that he is God, and Mullahs turn this to that he nauzubillah min zalik claim to be God.
I asked you guys to tell me what you believe 'he was'. So far Maseeh and prophet is confirmed by you guys. So eat the above post and show your loyalty with him, with some sensible answer. Why he had this conflict in his statements. Was he not sure who he was?
I will try to answer this.
I think you didnt read here what Hz Masih Maood :as: said, of course he isnt Masih Ibne Maryam, he is MASEEL MASEEH, Masih Ibne Maryam ie. Hz Isa :as: died already.
He is Promised Messiah according to Hadith!
Mr. Smooth guy,
Lets concentrate on your first set of objections.. I hope that untill these are not replied, you will not post any more objections.. as it will confuse the readers..
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I asked you guys to tell me what you believe 'he was'. So far Maseeh and prophet is confirmed by you guys. So eat the above post and show your loyalty with him, with some sensible answer. Why he had this conflict in his statements. Was he not sure who he was?
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Do you want a detalied answer or simple answer. Cuz i think it wont effect you. It dont matter if we give a detailed answer or simple answer.
kool…thanks for clarification that he IS NOT Jesus. i.e. Isa Ibne Mariyum.
Now ur saying he is Maseeh Maood or Promised Messiah. So what is this then ???
“This humble self has simply claimed to be a Maseel Maseeh, which foolish people have thought to be Promised Messiah…” (Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.192)
MR. Smooth Guy,
Here is a rough translation (that i have just done now) of the whole page..394, Vol 14 of Ruhani Khazain.
“wa wajadaka zaalan falaa huda (al quran), which means that Our Prophet :saw: did not learn anything from others, like other prophets did. Hazrat ISa and Hazrat Musa went to Makatib. Hazrat Isa (as) was taught Torah by a jew teacher. So, in this respect, our Prophet :saw: was not taught by any human. God was his Teacher. And God said to him “Iqra” at first, that means “read”. No one else said that. So, Prophet :saw: took all the guidence from Allah specifically, but other Prophets took their knowledge of religion from others humans. So, the promised one is said to be “Mahdi”, that means that he will be guided in the field of religion by Allah himself.
He will not be someone’s student in Quran and Hadith. So. I can say it on oath that this is the same as my state. Noone can prove that i have been taught a single lesson in “tafseer” of Quran or Hadith from anyone., Or i was a student of some “mufassir” or “muhaddith”. So, this is the same “mahdiuviat” which i have been blessed with on the same way "(minhaj) of Nabuwate Muhammadiya. And these secrets of Religion (isrrare deen) have been revealed to me directly. And as due to above mentioned reason the promised one will be called “mahdi”,he will also be called “massiah” because he will have the effect of the spirituality of Jesus son of Mary.”
(note. This is a very novice translation, for origingal text, please refer to www.alfazal.org).
So in the light of above statement, can you tell me what you understand of those contradictions now.. and please refrain for throwing more objections on us.. just this set will be dealt with right now..
I will download the PDF file at home and will get back to you on this one.
I have no Teacher:
“Mahdi is not a student of anybody. I swear that this is exactly my condition. Nobody can prove that any human has taught me Quran.” (Roohani Khazain vol 14 p.394)
I have following teachers:
“At 10 years of age an Arabic Teacher was appointed for me whose name was Fazal Ahmed …and when I was 17-18 years of age I was taught by another Molvi Saheb, whose name was Gul Ali Shah, who was appointed by my father in Qadian to teach me.” (Roohani Khazain vol 13 p.180)
“When I was 6-7 yrears old, a persian teacher was employed for me who taught me Holy Quran …and his name was Fazal Ilahi.” (Roohani Khazain vol 13 p.180)
Mr OuiJa: I am waiting for your response on Promised Maseeh one.
Many individuals either driven either by the desperate state of Muslims in their community or a selfish pursuit of power and prestige -- claimed to be Mahdi and found a following among the uninformed masses who were looking for salvation from the heavens. For some of these individuals (like Bab of Iran or Mirza Ghulam of India) the claim to being Mahdi was just a stepping stone to the development of heretic sects which broke away from the fold of Islam. Mahdi from Sudan (1835-84) organized revolution against ruling Turks and Shaysha of Sudan.
Mirza started as a reformer like Shah Walli- Ullah and did some great work and was appreciated for his work for reforming muslims against bidaats and shirks they had indulged. Some of the nice things Mirza said in this early stage are copied again and again by qadianis in this forum. But Mirza soon deviated and started claiming revelation and claims that were astonishing.. claiming millions of miracles! prophethood and nabowat along with promised mesiahah.. the list is too long and claims have no bound.
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kool...thanks for clarification that he IS NOT Jesus. i.e. Isa Ibne Mariyum.
Now ur saying he is Maseeh Maood or Promised Messiah. So what is this then ????????????????
"This humble self has simply claimed to be a Maseel Maseeh, which foolish people have thought to be Promised Messiah..." (Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.192)
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^ the above statement was a clarification to the allegation of Mullahs, who said that Mirza sahib has claimed to be the "jesus" himself.. like jesus in body..
here is (once again) give you a rough translation of the next lines continuous to the above..
"This is not a new claim, which people have heard from me today, but this is the same "ilham" which on recieving from God i had written in "braheen e Ahmadiyya" at many places with clarity, which has been published a good seven years ago. I never proclaimed that i am "the Jesus son of Mary" and who ever blames me for such is clearly a liar. On the contrary, it has been published by me for more then seven or eight years that I am "maseel e Maseeh".That I have been given some spiritual qualities and nature of Jesus Christ, and in many other respects which i have clarified in many other publications. My life has a very strong resemblence with that of Jesus Christ, and there has been nothing new said from me. I have claimed to be the same promised one (in my books), which has been mentioned in quran metaphorically (Ijmalan??) and in Hadith with clear words (tasreehan??).Because i have clearly stated it in Braheen e Ahmadiyya, that i am the same Promised Maseel (one who is likened), which has been spritualy announced by Quran and Hadith already.
(again i must remind you that this is a rough translation.. refer to www.alfazal.org for the original text)
Why have your mullahs at Irshad org not been able to quote the whole passage?in both the above cases..
and why they omitted the word "tafseer" of Quran and hadith in the case of the first statement that i had to re-translate??
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I will download the PDF file at home and will get back to you on this one.
I have no Teacher:
"Mahdi is not a student of anybody. I swear that this is exactly my condition. Nobody can prove that any human has taught me Quran." (Roohani Khazain vol 14 p.394)
I have following teachers:
"At 10 years of age an Arabic Teacher was appointed for me whose name was Fazal Ahmed ....and when I was 17-18 years of age I was taught by another Molvi Saheb, whose name was Gul Ali Shah, who was appointed by my father in Qadian to teach me." (Roohani Khazain vol 13 p.180)
"When I was 6-7 yrears old, a persian teacher was employed for me who taught me Holy Quran ....and his name was Fazal Ilahi." (Roohani Khazain vol 13 p.180)
Mr OuiJa: I am waiting for your response on Promised Maseeh one.
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Mr. Smooth guy,
I am happy that you will try to clear things up by doing your own study of the original text..The other statements that you mention are just on teaching plain Quranic language, or persian language.. and there is nothing strange or contradictory about that..
I am still wondering why the word "tafseer" has been omitted by those who make this allegation from vol 14, ruhani khazain??
I am sure you will see no omissions, or additions when i present my case..and you are most welcome to point them out, if you find them..
i dont know alot about ahmadis...i just wanted to ask,how did you guys start to believe that Mirza was the messiah or imam mehdi?or do some of you guys just believe in him because your parents or family believe in him?