So many women, so little time...

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Re: So many women, so little time...

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*Originally posted by Munni: *
1) Are not all women pretty much the same in terms of what they have to offer physically?

2) What is it that is so appealing about this?

3) Doesnt it get boring after awhile?

4) Is it seen as a challenge? Something to boast about perhaps?

5) Edit: Do you feel that most men think like this but dont say it?

6) Do you believe they were created this way, but were told to control themselves?

7) Can that be used as a valid "excuse" to continue this behavior? What about women?
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1) They look similar but physically everyone is unique
2) Not only the physical uniqueness but also the individual's personality
3) Yes it does, very natural.
4) To some of us YES it is, but not all. Not necessarily
5) Not only men but women too, it is natural.
6) Creator can answer this better but again I don't think so. They were indeed asked to control themselves.
7) No it is not a valid excuse as it is prohibited and one should not continue this. It goes for women too, the guidelines are same for everyone.

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*Originally posted by khekasha: *

Are you comparing us to books? Well then why don't you **** one!
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^ the word censored here was "read" ... in some part of the world reading in considered a higly sexual experince thus is treated as taboo. Kids are taught not to read but speak even road signs e.t.c are actually pictures. And believe it or not we live in that part of the world. khekasha is also from the culture that considers reading taboo and so do i. that is why i only look at pictures and not the text.

my 2 and a half cents

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*Originally posted by Ana: *

This is a fallacious argument. It is totally subjective that men have a "basic desire to have multiple partners", and varies from man to man. Not all are made from the same grain. There are many have no desire at all to be with even one partner, and a good number that want and desire ONLY one.

Men are not so stupid (for lack of better word) to think of honor and respectability if they are not in control of their body. But there are many men, who even though may follow natural urges, it is only for one person and not dus hazaar.

Exact same thing goes for women. Women however, due to societal restrictions, kill their emotions and are able to master and manipulate their bodies. That's probably why they are much more sensitive and emotional as well, because the process of self-control requires eliminating many natural desires.. and the person breaks down often.
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Ana

I am sorry so many comments have been thrown my way while i was away
I think you Ana & Munni both Miss understand me .

Ana even ifa man has impuse for IONE & NOT dus huzzar it is wrong if it is outside wed lock .I am saying just imagine the generalisation of 3billion men .If only 30% of them have the characteristic i said ,it is after all GENERALISATION.

YES YOU ARE RIGHT WE ARE PHYSIOLOGICALLY ANATOMICALLY DIFFERENT thats why .Women can have sex anytime & feign it .CAN A MAN FEIGN IT ??? Never.b/c it involves .........somthing which HAS to happenunlike women who are PASSIVE .......

More later

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*Originally posted by Ana: *

So NB, are u saying that u condone "looking around" if u r unhappily married or have no kids?

I don't think that logic is right. If one can't abide by the rules of marriage, which include loyalty and fidelity at what one may perceive to be the cost of his/her own "happiness", one shouldn't get married.
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Ana

You completely miss understand ..

I SAID ATLEAST ..atleast pe zor do

This is absolute minium & eveything else ABOVE it ..many more things

Yes it is dishonorable & indisciplined to be oggling.evenif your heart says so to do it .

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*Originally posted by Ana: *

And I think that is total rubbish. So r u saying if a man becomes unemployed a woman will ditch him or stop "exchanging" things with him? Woman have the capacity to give and give my dear, without asking for or expecting anything in return.

A woman is oriented towards motherhood because she has been so conditioned. It is her rearing since childhood that makes her this way.. pliable. Besides, some one has got to do the job!

Men can be just as effectively made to tune-out their manhood and succumb to changing nappies as women can be made to tune-out their feminity and run a large corporation. It's all in the head.

Basic natural instinct is a bodily curse. Everything else is psychological.
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Ana
First what you mean by unemployment .A man might have gathered a fortune before that would not that be considered providing for his family despite UNemployed.

I know modern two working families sopmtime woman may earn more or may be providing but that is still statistically minority ..isnt it .

What is so wrong for woman to be " oreinted to be mother " ?????Why you think it is an INSULT .I spoke in equalit terms .Just as it is nobekll for mantyop be providing it is NOBEL for woman to be nurturing nursing & motherly !!!!!!!!!

"A woman is oriented towards motherhood because she has been so conditioned. It is her rearing since childhood that makes her this way.. pliable. Besides, some one has got to do the job! "

This staement Encapsulates youe whole take on my post .You are angry ,you feel belittled(when it is only u r missundrerstanding ) You dont evenhave to give me REASON for it .I AM COMPLETELY SOLD ACCEPTING SATISPIED with this trait .And i think it is NO LESS THANthatof Soldier ,executive or wrestler !

YES iamnot saying that ROLE REVERSAL specially in family crisis ,unemployment ecominc disater Death ofspouse ,etc.etc Cannot happen.To know baic predilectionis to Understand Not justify any criminal behavioue or immoral act or undiciplined life or unacceptable society culture wise actions .

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NONE OF MY STATEMENT ARE JUSTIFICATIONS FOR ANY LESS HONORABLE BEHAVIOUR B/C ALL THOSE PREDILECTIONS ARE TO BE REIGNED BY HIGHER DISCIPLINE

divorce

eveteasing

assault /Rape

Infedility

domestic violence

marital rape

abuse of power

nonsharing of ASSET of family

All the laws of Islam governing rights of women & rights of men in accordence to Islamic jurisprudence :k: :k: :k:

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Originally posted by Naqshbandi

Ana
First what you mean by unemployment .A man might have gathered a fortune before that would not that be considered providing for his family despite UNemployed.

  • That is security, not unemployment. Unemployment is having no food on the table. And a man who is unemployed does not automatically translate to his losing his wife and kids. How can you even think that?

I know modern two working families sopmtime woman may earn more or may be providing but that is still statistically minority ..isnt it .

  • I don't know the statistics on this, but it is more common than most people think, esp. in black areas where the majority of heads of household are women.

What is so wrong for woman to be " oreinted to be mother " ?????Why you think it is an INSULT .I spoke in equalit terms .Just as it is nobekll for mantyop be providing it is NOBEL for woman to be nurturing nursing & motherly !!!!!!!!!

  • Nothing wrong. I was just saying... women can be a lot of things besides being just mothers u know... :(

"A woman is oriented towards motherhood because she has been so conditioned. It is her rearing since childhood that makes her this way.. pliable. Besides, some one has got to do the job! "

This staement Encapsulates youe whole take on my post .You are angry ,you feel belittled(when it is only u r missundrerstanding ) You dont evenhave to give me REASON for it .I AM COMPLETELY SOLD ACCEPTING SATISPIED with this trait .And i think it is NO LESS THANthatof Soldier ,executive or wrestler !

  • Ummm.. yes, I guess. :p

YES iamnot saying that ROLE REVERSAL specially in family crisis ,unemployment ecominc disater Death ofspouse ,etc.etc Cannot happen.*To know baic predilectionis to Understand Not justify any criminal behavioue or immoral act or undiciplined life or unacceptable society culture wise actions *.

  • What you define as an undisciplined life may not be someone else's definition. Again, that is all subjective. I agree, there are rules and norms of behavior, there are acceptable and unacceptable societal codes of conduct.. but we are not talking about that here.

We're talking about this:-

NB: Discipline is taking the Tougher harder less pleasurable sacrificing ways

and this:-

Munni: why do you feel man should be punished when acting upon his desires

Your turn.

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Men are inherently born with the need to spread their seed in as many women as possible which is why they jump from women to women. It's as simple as that.

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to spread their seed

Are you talking about cornfields here??

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Mehnaz :eek:

Thats ANIMAL behaviour.

Like I say …we can identify certain animal trait in human sort of remnent of atavistic behaviour which should be minimised & Supressed like wildness ,anger rage ,gluttony ,irrational which is more animal Than human

No animal behaviour can be justification for misdemeaner or foul behaviour B/C WE ARE HUMAN & OWE RESPONSIBILITY TO ACT LIKE HUMAN .

If a human goes on planting seed in women b/c thats what animal behaviour is ,IT IS NOT A VALID ARGUMENT FOR SUCH BEHAVIOUR NOR JUSTIFICATIONS OR REASONS FOR BAD BEHAVIOUR .:nono:

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Some men can truly be happy and content with one woman for the rest of their life (such men have my admiration), others cannot!!!!

As the saying goes..."whenever you think you may have found the "perfect" woman...look around the corner mate for you are sure to find 10 more who are "more perfect" than her"!

At the end of the day...don't we all end up just settling anyway...some variant of, "I am ready...you are available...lets just do it and get it over with?"

In my opinion, I think its the inevitability of the end state (as described above) that drives men to experiment with as many women as possible before their "clock" runs out!

Again...this is my opinion entirely...which was what the author of the post requested...I am sure people will disagree...knock yourselves out!

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I wasn’t seeking to justify the male behaviour of having the need/desire to sleep around with as many women as possible. I was simply stating my opinion. Most men do want to be with as many women as possible … be it to prove their manliness by ‘scoring’ over and over again or cause they know their time is running out and they will eventually be forced to settle down with one woman so they have to have as many women they can possibly have in the meantime. I don’t know! That’s my opinion.

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*Originally posted by Ahmar: *
Some men can truly be happy and content with one woman for the rest of their life (such men have my admiration), others cannot!!!!

As the saying goes..."whenever you think you may have found the "perfect" woman...look around the corner mate for you are sure to find 10 more who are "more perfect" than her"!

At the end of the day...don't we all end up just settling anyway...some variant of, "I am ready...you are available...lets just do it and get it over with?"

In my opinion, I think its the inevitability of the end state (as described above) that drives men to experiment with as many women as possible before their "clock" runs out!

Again...this is my opinion entirely...which was what the author of the post requested...I am sure people will disagree...knock yourselves out!
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Who says you have to marry PERFECT one

Are you perfect ?

If you are less than average ,perfect mate is NO excuse for you to be running around drooling .

MEHNAZ

No you are justifying by saying "MEN ARE BORN WITH INHERENT NATURE OF SPREADING SEED .....somthing like that "

I am born with dislike of people whose name starts with M......Can you allow me to choke you to death ....why ?? B/c society has said somthing is right & somthing is wrong .

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Re: So many women, so little time...

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*Originally posted by Munni: *
I'd like to know what it is that some men find so appealing in dreaming about being with a different woman every so often. Are not all women pretty much the same in terms of what they have to offer physically? I am talking about men that go from one woman to the next, casually. Know some people personally that are like this, but I dont have the guts to ask them directly. What is it that is so appealing about this? To each his own and they are entitled to think and do as they please, but I dont understand the whole concept. Doesnt it get boring after awhile? Is it seen as a challenge? Something to boast about perhaps? I have no idea, would just like some insight. Thank you.

Edit: Do you feel that most men think like this but dont say it? If so, do you believe they were created this way, but were told to control themselves? Can that be used as a valid "excuse" to continue this behavior? What about women?
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I think its natural behaviour to test them by nature!

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*Originally posted by Naqshbandi: *

I am born with dislike of people whose name starts with M......Can you allow me to choke you to death ....why ?? B/c society has said somthing is right & somthing is wrong .
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I take it you have been repeatedly rejected by women in life which is why this topic is very sensitive to you .... you have been unfortunate enough not to "spread your seed" (fortunate for society though!!). Not surprising really given your attitude on this site.

So much for freedom of speech and being able to express our opinions!

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I think a big part of men and women hopping around from bed to bed has to do with the way they view themselves and not just the “he/she is available so let’s get it on” factor. I have stated this in previous posts and I continue to stand by it that if one has great self-esteem then that person will practice self-control and choose romantic/sexual partners carefully, instead of hippety-hopping around like cats and dogs.

I must disagree with the statement posted above that says that people, at the end of the day, are constantly “settling” since there is always “bigger and better” out there. I am definitely a believer in the “go for the gold” mentality; however, let’s get real…when does the search for perfection end?..when we’re at our deathbeds?!

But let’s face it, in my opinion, at the end of the day, to each his/her own! Are men/women out to “prove” themselves by getting some “notches under their respective belts” by having as many romantic/sexual partners as they can possibly have or are they simply following the natural instinct to just “get laid” plain and simple for the sake of just that? If anyone can enlighten the rest of us on that, it would be greatly appreciated.

:flower2:

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what if its an expensive book? would u still throw it away?

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Xara, don't judge a book by its cover...

:p

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I think a big part of men and women hopping around from bed to bed has to do with the way they view themselves and not just the "he/she is available so let's get it on" factor. I have stated this in previous posts and I continue to stand by it that if one has great self-esteem then that person will practice self-control and choose romantic/sexual partners carefully, instead of hippety-hopping around like cats and dogs.

Ms moona,

I'd say it again. You've have a big problem with your perception of romantic/casual relationships. You've never been in any sort relationship outside your catch-a-catch and get married mentality. But you keep giving your opinions on matters that you have not personally experienced or explore, or even have given a thought to explore.

With such lack of personal experience and oppeness towards the world around you, you confuse things like self-esteem and self-control with one single thing that you've written off on the wall for you as a perfect type of moral conduct and behaviour, only to give yourself self-assurance that whatever you have been doing and are doing is the "right way".

This is mainly only to give yourself fake sense of self-assurance. This justifies your timid outlook at people and relationships while allowing you to live a life in a shell.

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Roman, I do not live in any shell, mind you. However, I will not lie to you in that I do NOT have experience with hopping from bed to bed...I have no reason to experiment as such...it's not a mode of living that I ascribe to. I have better things to do with my life than trying to compare Guy 1 to Guy 2 to Guy 3 to Guy 4, etc... and their respective bedroom acrobatics!

:o