So how exactly was Benazir Bhutto killed!? (MERGED)

Sa1eem · December 30, 2007, 1:58pm

Re: No bullet or shrapnel found in Benazir's wound - Dr Musaddiq Hussain

What you wrote shows what government is saying is ture as it is obvious she did not die of blast. as for she ducking into the car, she would have done that immediately after the shot were fired and while ducking, blast happened and she must have hit the latch of sunroof with force.

As for getting killed from bullet, than it is very unlikely as if that was true, she would not have died so quickly as it happened (that she died even before reaching hospital).

*Another reason to believe what government is telling is truth (though there are many) is that, all blood inside the car was on right hand side of the car seat and even on the floor of right hand side of the car seat, whereas bullet was fired from left side of the car (also blast happened on left side of the car) and if that bleeding had happened from bullet wound, it would have been on left side of her body and thus blood would have been on left side of the car seat. *

Another thing is that if she died of gun shot than there would have been blood on outside the car too, and that means one could have seen that, but as from all reports, none mentioned that there was blood outside of the car, thus it seems that there was no blood outside the car (otherwise GEO would have shown that too, and government could not have claimed that she died from hitting her head on latch of sunroof).

system · December 30, 2007, 2:34pm

Re: No bullet or shrapnel found in Benazir's wound - Dr Musaddiq Hussain

Sa1eem:

What you wrote shows what government is saying is ture as it is obvious she did not die of blast. as for she ducking into the car, she would have done that immediately after the shot were fired and while ducking, blast happened and she must have hit the latch of sunroof with force.

As for getting killed from bullet, than it is very unlikely as if that was true, she would not have died so quickly as it happened (that she died even before reaching hospital).

*Another reason to believe what government is telling is truth (though there are many) is that, all blood inside the car was on right hand side of the car seat and even on the floor of right hand side of the car seat, whereas bullet was fired from left side of the car (also blast happened on left side of the car) and if that bleeding had happened from bullet wound, it would have been on left side of her body and thus blood would have been on left side of the car seat. *

Another thing is that if she died of gun shot than there would have been blood on outside the car too, and that means one could have seen that, but as from all reports, none mentioned that there was blood outside of the car, thus it seems that there was no blood outside the car (otherwise GEO would have shown that too, and government could not have claimed that she died from hitting her head on latch of sunroof).

Yaar, I think you need to reread your own advice on not argueing simply for the sake of argueing...

I mean, the govt isnt a holy cow, you dont ALWAYS have to side with the govt!

The govt doesnt know what happened in the car, they are only speculating... Its stupidity and insensitivty of the worst kind, for them to specualte on her death even before any real investigation is done. Besides, who the heck are they to be voicing their "expertise" on murder scene? Did these people somehow get themselves a degree in crime scene investigation without us even noticing?
The govt should be ashamed. This just seems like another lame, half hearted attempt at deflecting blame... Just shows how disgusting the current administration is.
Someone should resign or there should be a high level investigation into this lapse in security.

The two people who were there saw blood coming from where they say she had been shot. You cant just disregard their testimony.

As far where the blood splattered, your not a forensic analyst, and all you saw were photos... Cases like these, common sense isnt always common. Without a poper work up of how everything happened, it next to impossible to make any definitive conclusions.

Sa1eem · December 30, 2007, 2:47pm

Re: No bullet or shrapnel found in Benazir's wound - Dr Musaddiq Hussain

**PaKpatriot1: **Yaar ... in your mail you yourself is writing that ... 'no one knows what happened in the car except those who were in the car' ... ture, no doubt. I am also saying that she got killed from whatever happened in the car, not outside the car. Because if anything had happened outside the car than there would have been blood stain outside the car.

Thus, this is speculation that she got hit by sunroof handle (or latch), but you are right, we do not exactly know what happened inside the car, so those in the car should be investigated that if they hit her, made her bleed inside the car, and killed her.

[As for her dying of whatever reason, she died of accident in duty when she was attacked by Fisadis and thus she got Shaheed (as far as we are concerned), so that does not really matter how she died, from accident, from bullet wound or from bomb blast]

system · December 30, 2007, 3:49pm

Re: No bullet or shrapnel found in Benazir's wound - Dr Musaddiq Hussain

Sa1eem:

**PaKpatriot1: **Yaar ... in your mail you yourself is writing that ... 'no one knows what happened in the car except those who were in the car' ... ture, no doubt. I am also saying that she got killed from whatever happened in the car, not outside the car. Because if anything had happened outside the car than there would have been blood stain outside the car.

Thus, this is speculation that she got hit by sunroof handle (or latch), but you are right, we do not exactly know what happened inside the car, so those in the car should be investigated that if they hit her, made her bleed inside the car, and killed her.

[As for her dying of whatever reason, she died of accident in duty when she was attacked by Fisadis and thus she got Shaheed (as far as we are concerned), so that does not really matter how she died, from accident, from bullet wound or from bomb blast]

Well, by we dont know what happened in the car, I was refering to where the blood splatered on the seat... We dont know how she fell, we dont know where she fell..

As for there not being blood outside when she was shot...
You know from the photos how close people were to her, and infact some people were practically on the roof... When the explosion occured, who knows whos blood was splattered where!
Since there hasnt been a real investigation, we dont know whether Benazirs blood was splattered on the roof.
And also, Benzair was wearing a shawl, considering how quickly it all happned, the blood would have taken a second or so before it started really coming out, and obviously her shawl would have soaked up some of it. By then she had already fallen back into the car.

Plus, if she did hit her head, what part did she hit? Her juura and shawl were thick enough that she would have survived a blow to the back of the head or to the sides... The forehead is the hardest part of the head, I doubt that impact would have killed her unless she had hit the thing with a HUGE amount of force. I doubt simply smashing her head would be enough to kill her.

So at this point, there doesnt seem to be any evidence to show that the govt was right... But according to the two people who were in the car, Benazir was bleeding from her neck and her chest.. That all we really have to go by. The govt doesnt really have anything, they dont even have enough to speculate.

Ultimately it doesnt matter, but the govt shouldnt be pronouncing their "expert" oppinion at this point.. Thats just wrong.

Rebel_X · December 30, 2007, 3:52pm