In some countries it's a crime to provoke someone to fight. The person who provokes others has a responsibility.
I am not saying that rape is justified. That's such an extreme action but let's say the man only looked at a provocatively dressed woman's cleavage. Does she have any responsibility for dressing in a way which invites stares? I think most would say yes, so why would she be absolved of all responsibility when it comes to rape.
Again, I'm not advocating rape but go to a club in any city and the way some girls are dressed makes you shake your head. A serial rapist will act regardless but by dressing provocatively you are making yourself stand out as a target.
you’re comparing human males to flies? human males have no self control so you cover up the temptation, it’s the fault of the temptation so whatever the flies(human males do is ok after the temptation reveals itself(herself)) why not cover up every temptation out there, chocolate, why have self control about eating it, cover up everything out there that is remotely a temptation, b/c human beings don’t have this great thing called self control and aren’t taught to respect others right?
that way is showing human males as weak minded and somehow gives them even if they have that self control that God gave them, a certificate of saying/thinking, yea it’s ok to rape or do anything disrespectful to the temptation b/c its the fault of the temptation for not be covered from head to toe including the nose, lips, forehead and every other part including the eyes in some cases(burqa)
not saying that i personally see wearing revealing clothes as good b/c that’s really an issue of judging others and i’m not going to do that.
you're comparing human males to flies? human males have no self control so you cover up the temptation, it's the fault of the temptation so whatever the flies(human males do is ok after the temptation reveals itself(herself)) why not cover up every temptation out there, chocolate, why have self control about eating it, cover up everything out there that is remotely a temptation, b/c human beings don't have this great thing called self control and decency in them right?
not saying that i personally see wearing revealing clothes as good b/c that's really an issue of judging others and i'm not going to do that.
Nisha, your post is a fine example of jumping to conclusions.
If you think I was remotely saying that any woman deserves or is at fault enough to be raped, then I'm not sure what to say.
If you'd patiently read my next post in the same topic, then you probably wouldn't have said that and been *judgmental. *
Here's a little something: Snow is white. That does not mean everything that is white is snow.
that post wasn't really directed towards you or in any way judging you but it was directed towards that way of thinking that's all. when i said "you", i didn't really mean you, princessjojo.....
What do you think about the statement that the Toronto police officer made? You believe that "women should avoid dressing like "sluts" to avoid being raped"**
I agree with him to some extent.
However i also believe that it has to be done from both sides. A woman shouldnot dress in such a way that it urges a man to do something inappropriate similarly if a woman is dressed up in a vulgar way then the man should have senses and manners to see what he should avoid.
Also its not that man only rape those who are dressed in a vulgar way. most of them dont see the dressing but the fact that its a woman.
He said what a lot of people think unfortunately - that provocative clothing gives men an excuse or license to assault and rape women.
Regardless of how a woman dresses, a man's actions are his responsibility. She can walk naked in front of him - but he is still responsible for controlling his base needs and actions. Her body is not his to use. He cannot touch her and her clothing is not an invitation to him.
Enough said!
exactly...I dont know how many times it needs to be said, there is no excuse for sexual assault. Women from all walks of life get raped unfortunately, and nothing excuses the actions of the rapist. My body, no matter how i decide to dress it, belongs to me and nothing I or any other woman say, does or wears warrants the assault rapes brings on to someones life and their loved ones. I personally know someone who was raped and it completely destroyed her, her parents and anyone who was close to her. Rape is usually done by man for a feeling of power because they feel inadequate and or believe that women are beneath him, rarely because of how a woman is dressed.
So my question here would be - what about clothing optional beaches? All those naked women getting very complete tans are all looking to get raped? :khums:
He said what a lot of people think unfortunately - that provocative clothing gives men an excuse or license to assault and rape women.
Regardless of how a woman dresses, a man's actions are his responsibility. She can walk naked in front of him - but he is still responsible for controlling his base needs and actions. Her body is not his to use. He cannot touch her and her clothing is not an invitation to him.
Enough said!
I don't think implied that the men have an excuse due to what the women are wearing, but he's simply telling them to take their due precaution.
Once someone I know had their house broken into and robbed. I was there when the cop showed up to investigate. When he was looking through the house, he mentioned somethings that the owner of the house could have done to prevent or at least make it more difficult for the burglars to break into the house. Does this mean that he was implying that they deserved to get robbed for not having enough anti-theft measures in place? I sincerely doubt it.
Even if a person leaves all their doors open, it doesn't mean that a burglar has the right to come in and steal anything. However, if a person didn't take due precautions, I wouldn't say they're completely free from blame either.