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You think male supporters will gather there? check this out day of solidarity with with Gwen Jacob 
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The walk isn't about a chance to flash your goodies. The walk is to bring attention to the fact that even though the rape has happened,
The news about the walk was just the segue to my main question. I have no opinion about the morality behind the walk, although its seems as distasteful as those 'i love boobies' wrist bands that were distributed in some middle schools of USA to increase breast cancer awareness, not to mention 'what's up your butt' billboards that sprung up in Seattle area to increase colon cancer awareness.
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that is the whole point of this thread. One who provocates is also responsible and I dont want you to be the responsible one at all. 
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Now that is one event 
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In January, a Toronto police officer told a group of university students that women should avoid dressing like "sluts" to avoid being raped.
In my humble opinion, this is no different than a pedophile claiming that he (or she) wouldn't have molested/raped the child IF the child wasn't left alone by the parents. It's no different than a shoplifter saying that the theft wouldn't have taken place if the store wasn't displaying the merchadize.
At the end of the day.....regardless of temptations, men (and women) have a choice when it comes to their actions.
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I want to be a devils advocate here.
Police in north america often capture pedophiles (potential) and drug dealers by pretending to be a customer or a pre teen kid. Point is, their provocation leads to the initiation of a potential crime, but they arrest the person before he could commit that crime. That clearly shows that provocation plays a huge role in the initiation of a crime. That definitely does not shift the burden of that crime on the provocateur from the criminal but still some responsibility goes to the one who provocates
If you leave your car unlocked in a crime ridden area of downtown Toronto and your purse gets stolen, will you take some blame of that mishap?
I think Paheli responded to your comment best - I've quoted her below:
In my humble opinion, this is no different than a pedophile claiming that he (or she) wouldn't have molested/raped the child IF the child wasn't left alone by the parents. It's no different than a shoplifter saying that the theft wouldn't have taken place if the store wasn't displaying the merchadize.
At the end of the day.....regardless of temptations, men (and women) have a choice when it comes to their actions.
Provocation can never justify personal accountability for one's actions.
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Provocation can never justify personal accountability for one's actions.
then why those police officers are arresting the people who show up at a park to meet a preteen girl, only to find out that it was a cop who was chatting with them in that chat room?
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then why those police officers are arresting the people who show up at a park to meet a preteen girl, only to find out that it was a cop who was chatting with them in that chat room?
Why are the police wrong to arrest such predators? Does actual harm need to be done? Think about conspiracy to commit murder - just because one was caught before the wrong act doesn't mean they should be free to go because no actual harm was done.
In the pedophile case - the police set out the lure for the pedophile (the provocation) - but the decision to respond and was the pedophile's. There are action demonstrated the intention to cause imminent harm to a vulnerable group in our society - children.
BTW, I'm not justifying the actions of the provocateur - they may have (based on the values you subscribe to) committed a moral wrong. But isn't their act and the accountability for their action their own? My not wearing hijab or worse, wearing provocative clothing - I'm already answerable to God, but I have not harmed anyone by my action. In the case of the rape, yes the man is answerable to God, but because he has also harmed another person, that other person deserves justice.
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In the case of the rape, yes the man is answerable to God, but because he has also harmed another person, that other person deserves justice.
I totally agree , and please dont take me wrong. I am not saying that rape is a justifiable crime if the victim was wearing lewd outfit. I personally believe that punishment of a rapist should be death, no matter what the circumstances were. All I am saying (if i am saying anything) is that in our society, sometimes potential victims can also play a responsible role to keep the crime rate low.
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all I know is, ladies cover yourselves! Just the thought of a man thinking dirty of you or parts of your body is sickening
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The opportunity to commit a crime is everywhere.
People cannot blame a woman's clothing when its actually their own moral compass thats screwed up.
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:k:
Although, I gotta sayâŚI find those bikinis for 8 year olds reallllyyyyy disturbing.
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This video doesnât get oldâŚever 
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All I am saying (if i am saying anything) is that in our society, sometimes potential victims can also play a responsible role to keep the crime rate low.
You know i still disagree. It is still up to the man. I think someone mentioned up there that whether girl cover herself up or wear hijab this wouldn't matter to somebody who is serial raper or just amateur raper. For argument sake, even lets say woman wearing revealing cloths, man should have conscious and fear of God. Why? because we live in the society which is open and accepting to everybody's way of life. We might not agree with it because it goes against our Sharia but in this society no-body has a right to say anything because we're not living in Islamic country.
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Somebody give these women a real cause to fight for.
Oh wait, they already have all the rights. They can drive, they can work, they can dress however they want to, they can press charges against domestic abuse, they get paid equally to men .... alas, all they can do is a slutwalk.
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you mean likeâŚb!tchwalk?? 
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You know i still disagree. It is still up to the man. I think someone mentioned up there that whether girl cover herself up or wear hijab this wouldn't matter to somebody who is serial raper or just amateur raper. For argument sake, even lets say woman wearing revealing cloths, man should have conscious and fear of God. Why? because we live in the society which is open and accepting to everybody's way of life. We might not agree with it because it goes against our Sharia but in this society no-body has a right to say anything because we're not living in Islamic country.
rape does not happen for the same reason all the times. There are sick minded people who would rape minors, boys, dead bodies, animals, mental patients and more ...but you have to admit that the frequency of crime would be lower if we do not add provocation to the list of motives.
Somebody give these women a real cause to fight for.
Oh wait, they already have all the rights. They can drive, they can work, they can dress however they want to, they can press charges against domestic abuse, they get paid equally to men .... alas, all they can do is a slutwalk.
its nothing to do with the cause, its the display of their body that they probably wanted.
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its nothing to do with the cause, its the display of their body that they probably wanted.
Nobody took it away from them in the first place. Too much free time on their hands.
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We need those walks in Pakistan too.
sluts or just walking?
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what are the odds that only obsese butch ladies participate in those "Slutwalk"...?