the six kalima thing is an innovation…
there is no basis fot these in Quran and Sunnah…
i dont know when/where they originated…
also, if the man does not know kalima, the molvi will read it and the person can repeat after him…
some even charge u extra for that…
and if the nikaah khawan does not know, what were the witnesses there for???
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Six Kalima during nikkah ceremony OR Six Kalima at all. (please make it clear)
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^
the whole six kalimas theory....
nikaah or no nikaah, i haven't yet found any base for these six kalimahs....
where htye came from, who put them up, why six....
no idea....
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Aren’t you in opposition to these six kalima because of Tabarra in sixth kalima? Or some other reason.
These Six Kalimas are in Sunni Islam.
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^ Most likely because its not in arabic, hence its a 
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no, these six kalimas r only in the indo-pak sub-continent…
i am against them cuz they r not found in Quran and Sunnah…
as is, the wordings r good for duaa…
i read the 5th kalima (istighfaar) very often for istighfaar…
and no, the tabara’ in the sixth kalima is perfectly fine with me…
its the grouping of these six that i do not like…
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the six kalimaas r in arabic…
or r u talking about something else… 
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^ really? from what i heard, most of it was in urdu. I think we're talking about the same thing...but nevertheless can you show us?
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Thanks armughal,
A separate thread is required now to discuss this topic.
(a) The origin of 6 Kalimas
(b) Why this is grouping or headings of 6
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This is split from from shia sunni marraige thread.
Please discuss here, It will be interesting to know the origin of 6 kalma s :)
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first kalimah: la ilaha illa Allah, Muhammad rasool Allah
second kalimah: ashhadu an la ilaha ill Allah wahdahu la shareek lahu, wa ashhadu anna Muhammad abduhu wa rasuluho
third kalimah: subhaan Allahi walhamdolellahi la ilaha illla Allahu wallahu akbar wa la hawla wa la quwwata illa billah elaliy alazeeem
fourth kalimah: la ilaha illa Allahu wahdahu la shareeka lahu, lahulmulk wa lahulhamd, yuhyee wa yumeet wa huwa hayy la yumeet abadab abada zuljalale walikram beyadihi alkhayr wa huwa ala kulli shayen qadeer
fifth kalimah: astaghfarullah rabbi min kulli zanbin aznabtuhu amadan aw khata'an siran aw alaniyatan wa atubuhu ilayhi min azzanb illazi aalamu wa min azzanb illazi la aalamu innaka anta allama ulghuyoob wa sattar uluyoob wa ghaffar uzzunoob wa la hawla wa la quwwata illa billah elaliy alazeeem
sixth kalimah: allahumma inni aaoozubika min an ushrika bika shay wa ana aalamu bihee wa astaghfiruka lima la aalamu bihi tubtu anhu wa tabra'atu min al kufr wa asshirk wa alkezib wa algheebat wa albid'at wa alnameemat wa alfawahish wa albuhtan wa alma'asi kulliha wa aslamtu wa aqoolu la ilaha illa Allah, Muhammad rasool Allah
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The six kalima's have no basis in islam and hence are an innovation.
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Thanks armughal. It prolly is the same, but the kids i knew with have an urdu version.
goes like this, pehla kalima_____, ____ ma'ana paak, dooja kalima, teesra kalima...etc. Im trying to recall the words.
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does that mean we cant recite them? At mosque we were taught to recite all 6 every single day.
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Things are changed now.
Now those mosques does not belong to Sunnies.
some outsiders !
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huh ?
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Can we have translations as well I only knew 1 when are the rest of the 5 used?
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what's a kalma?
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Recorded in Musned Ahmed ibn Hanbal, Sunan al Tirmidhi, Mustadrak al Hakim, al Tabarani’s Mu’jam al Kabir from Abdullah ibn Umar (r); by al Tabarani again but from al Mughira ibn Shu’ba (r) as part of a longer hadith; by al Bazzar in his Musnad from Abdul Rahman bin Awf - all without the words “abadan abada”; and by Ibn al Sunni in his Aml al Yawm wa al Layl from Anas ibn Malik (r) but starting, “ashhadu an…” and also without “abadan abada”, with the following various words of encouragement:
“Whoever enters the marketplace and recites… (the above words)… Allah writes for him a thousand, thousand good deeds and clears him of a thousand, thousand sins…”
“Whoever recites in the morning… Allah will record for that person ten good deeds…”
“Whoever recites… not intending anything other than seeking the Face of Allah, then by virtue of it Allah will admit him into the Blessed Garden.”
“That the Prophet (saw) would say at the end of the salah…”
Sorry, I can’t yet look into the various levels of authenticity as I’m pushed for time…
I’ll try to look at some of the other kalimahs later if I can… #1 and #2 are obvious and require no comment really…