Sindhan, Punjaban, Bangalan

Read this term ‘Sindhan’ in one of Banu Qudsia’s novel and that was first when I read a Sindhi lady being referred like this.

May be Banu Qudsia is not aware of the terminology Sindhi use while referring to Sindhi lady. Its not Sindhan. Its Sindhyani. Probably, she coined the term seeing term "Punjaban’ used to refer a Punjabi lady.

I’m not sure how Bengalis refer to a Bengali lady, but the term ‘Bangalan’ also seems to be inspired by Punjaban.

I just remember all this, as in a Sindhi book I just read a Sikh lady being referred as ‘Sikhyani’, which is otherwise ‘Sikhni’ in Urdu and Punjabi Literature.

Sindhan sounds good.

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What's the word used in qawali dama dam mast qalandar?

sindhni?

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Its SindhRi. Its refer to Sindh and not to Sindhi lady. How they refer to Pathan lady in Urdu?

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But its alien to Sindhis and grammatically incorrect. lols they refer to English lady as Angrezyani

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We use the word Sindhi for Sindhi woman as well, but I wonder if the terms like 'Baluchan' or 'Pathani' are also grammatically incorrect.

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Balochan is Balochiyani in Sindhi, don’t know how Baloch refers to Balch lady.

Pathani is also used in Sindh and there is alteranate use of terms ‘Pathan’ or ‘Pathani’ in Sindhi and that is a handsome / beautiful person.

In saraiki region, Pathani is same like their Malook (beautiful) and there is this famous song from Saraiki region whih refers to Bride as ‘Rani Pathani’ and equally popular in Sindh.

Rani Pathani - Saraiki Lok Geet - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxzwS7t6jhc)

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Is is the literal meaning of the term ‘Pathani’ or the original word carries really positive connotations?

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Not literal but some connotations. Native people of Sindh are dark-skin or sanwla, so Pathan with fair skin got their attention to describe someone with fair skin.

You might remember Zulfiqar Mirza chanting in a press conference against MQM 'uss neeli aankhon wale Pathan bache ka kiya qasoor, jo Karachi main kachra chunte goli ka shikar ho jata hai'. This is not something poetic that was coming from a person like ZM, but its quite appreciated and established folklore to refer someone beautiful as Pathan / Pathani in Sindh. This is same like they refer to someone with an attitude as 'BaRa angrez / sahab banta hai'.

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It's exactly the same in Punjabi culture as well. It's pretty common to compliment a good looking person with fair skin, light eyes and sharp nose by calling him/her Pathan/Pathani. I was going to open a thread on this question. Very interesting phenomena indeed.

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On a side note, Pathan rulers of Sindh never got positive feedback in Sindh. Arghoon, Tarkhan all are portrayed in bad light in History Books. But strangely, There is a community in Sindh, which by caste refer them as Pathan, but don't know Pashto and speak Sindhi at their homes.

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i Dont know how a pathani is pronounced in pashtun areas, but its pashtun/pakhtun instead of pathan that we use.

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^In my experience, Ali_Syed is correct. We use Pashtun/Pakhtun rather than pathan. I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to themselves as pathan/pathani.

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So, who uses term Pathan then? I think English writers who wrote books on the region, also refer them as Pathan. Term Pakhtun and Pashtun are rarely used in Sindh

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^I think the term Pathan/Pathani is primarily used in the subcontinent.

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Punjaban :wub:

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Sindhiyani
Bangalan
Punjaaban
PaThaanin
Gujraatan
Madraasan [all South Indians]
Chamaarin
Paasin

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Pathans of Subcontinent use the Pathan to describe themselves when speaking to non Pakhtoon people.

Shahid Afridi refers to himself as Pathan.

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Pashtun lady could be khanum.

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Khaanum is the title given to ladies from honorable families, daughters of royalties and/or rich ladies.

Khaanum is also used as a last name for females of the subcontinent.