Sindh Should Be Divided As Well

You can see the worst form of hypocrisy these days regarding the discussion on creation of new provinces. Sindhis and PPP is at the forefront but just look at their expressions as soon as one mentions Sindh. They even talk about dividing Punjab into dozens of provinces but start spewing venom if one dares mention Sindh.

Unfortunately, I’ve not seen any Punjabis putting up a strong defense for their province. Interestingly enough, some bharay key tattoo are even supporting the move to divide Punjab while supporting the so-called Sindh dharti. They, of course, do not have much to defend about the protection of greater Punjab. Still, they need to fight back the haters who are now saying to divide Punjabi speaking areas based on the accent of language spoken. Like a separate province for Sargodha, Faisalabad and Khanewal etc. Sindh also has many dialects spoken so why not apply the same formula here? Punjabis’ lips are still sealed on that blatant hate mongering. As Mohajirs, we can’t emulate their silence.

I know for a fact the anger and disappointment in Mohajirs regarding the flip-flopping of their so-called representatives i.e MQM. Being one of them, I feel that we are totally let down by our so-called leaders including that goon British citizen. For 30 years we were promised our rights and now when the time has come, bhatta mafia has sold us out. Quota system is still in place, Karachiites still have to learn Sindhi at schools despite the fact that it is the language of less than 5% of population. Six people were burned alive in a bus in Kemari, including children, and Mohajir properties were looted in interior Sindh during the so-called peaceful strike on Aug. 13. MQM was silent as usual and expressing solidarity with its Sindhi brethren.

Some of my family members had to flee their homes from Larkana, Jacbobabad and interior Sindh during the worst riots of 1972, organized by the Bhutto regime. They started again with nothing but hope in Karachi. At least they had received some assurance in the later years that they would be safe and sound in their new homes. The party that promised that has failed them very badly. Rioters burned their shops after the death of Benazir right in the heart of Karachi. And now they are again at the mercy of criminals.

MQM may try to act as the guardian of Sindh but I can tell you common Mohajirs are furious these days. If you have any doubt, visit a middle-class locality of Karachi or Hyderabad and ask common people. It is also an unfortunate fact that the MQM has terrorized people so much that they are afraid to raise their voice openly. But they have the choicest of words in private about MQM.

Pakistan needs new provinces including a province for Karachi and Hyderabad. A better idea is to divide Sindh into three parts. Northern Sindh with Sukkur as capital, Southern with Hyderabad and Karachi as a province of its own and with the addition of some areas from Thatta and Dadu districts as Karachi needs more space for growth. This is despite the fact that both Hyderabad and Mirpur Khas have a dominance of Mohajirs. We can offer that sacrifice for the greater good. Only if Sindhis open their eyes and see the stark demographic realities instead of burrowing their necks in the sand.

Wish we had some sensible Mohajir leaders instead of that traitor MQM. I am, however, dead sure that if the talk of provinces is ever materialized then Sindh will also see a division. InshaAllah!

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What a one-sided post.

You need to read your history. Seriaki, Multan regions have a completely different history in relation to Pakistan Punjab.

MQM already tried to make Jinnaphur, and look at the trashing they took from Gen.Babar.

They know this will happen again if they try, so would rather enjoy their bhatta and criminal money without trying this trick again.

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There is no need to divide Sindh. People of Sindh do not want this - both Urdu speaking, Sindhi speaking and other permanent residents of the province. Its already a very small province.

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If you can call demographic facts one-sided then that's up to you.

I know what is the history and that is why I am calling for the division of Sindh.

Didn't Jinnahpur was a conspiracy and died its own natural death and even admitted as a conspiracy by its perpetrators i.e. the ISI?

You mentioned that butcher of Karachi. I can only pray to Allah to lessen his Azaab a bit.

And mind you, no one can dare another brutal repression in Karachi again. This is not 1992. This will lead to unimaginable consequences and only Sindhis will bear the worst of that.

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Really? How come Sindh is a small province? It is the second largest by population and third largest by area. Spread over 140,914 sq-km, it is even bigger than the good old England and dozens of other countries in the world.

There is a need to divide Sindh and divide it now. Sindhis are a minority in Karachi, Hyderabad and Mirpur Khas.

How do you know Urdu speakers do not want this? Have you asked common people in Karachi or Hyderabad about that?

MQM surely is a traitor of Mohajirs and is harping on the rotten string of sindh dharti but this does not mean that it can continue with its self-serving policies. While it has failed its voters, the latter can and should look for an alternative that can address their genuine needs.

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There are millions of Sindhi's in Karachi, Hyderabad, Mirpukhas, if you don't want to acknowledge them, that is your own problem.

Just last week Sindhi's shut down these areas with a strike.

Anyways you seem like quite an extremist, hoping to make millions of Sindhi's and Mohajir's start fighting each other for no reason other than your forever 'victimhood'.

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The demand for separate provinces in Punjab was made by public at large (ppl of Seriki belt & Bahawalpur) and even considering the situation Sharif brothers are now addressing issue (although in wrong way). In Sindh its not public demand at all. No one sitting in drawing room (not even knowing the demographic facts of Sindh) can justify demand for division of Sindh.Todate, No party can win election in Sindh with an agenda to divide Sindh.

Leave that Shahbaz Sharif's mentality for interfering in others matters and just wait and watch for public opinion in next election.

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If fighting for one's just rights make me an extremist than I am proud of it.

You talked about millions of Sindhis in Karachi. Yeah, they are a million but in a population of 20 million, which still makes them a small minority.

It is interesting to notice this thing about strike. Some Sindhi chauvinists are also doing that on Twitter. "See how we did a successful strike in Karachi."

Yeah, a successful strike where innocent Mohajirs were burnt alive in a bus and their shops were looted. Just to tell you a thing, many areas remained open in Karachi. A successful strike where many markets were open. Shops were open in Nazimabad, FB Area and Paposh to name a few after just a coupe of hours of closing. I salute the bravery of those shopkeepers who defeated the nefarious intentions.

I, like millions of Mohajirs, will always talk about the thousands of Mohajirs who were killed in the 1990s, many under direct supervision of Nawaz and Benazir governments. We will always remember how our properties were looted and how we were forced out from interior Sindh in 1972. We will always remember how hundreds of innocent Mohajirs were killed by Sindhis in Hyderabad, in 1988 and in 1990.

That's what I've stated earlier. Don't think that MQM will forever keep us under its fangs. Mohajirs are realizing the great deception they have been dealt with. And this will ultimately lead to a new struggle for our rights. InshaAllah!

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Ok, sure, whatever your parents have told you, blah, blah......ZZZZZZZZZ

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will pakistanis ever let go of this unislamic poison of provincialism and ethnic based politics?:/

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Just to state a fact, I live in a very middle-class area of Karachi and know things inside out. No outsider can knows the harsh facts better than me.

How come you say that there is no such public demand from Mohajirs? As I’ve mentioned in earlier posts, Mohajirs are held hostage by the MQM. They are furious and fuming these days as that London thug is deceiving them again.

And I know the demographic facts of Sindh. Should I state them? Sindhis constituted hardly 7% of Karachi’s population in 1998. And they were barely 60% of Sindh. With the influx from other parts of Pakistan, they are no more than 3% of Karachi and their overall population is also dwindling in Sindh.

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dpu-projects/Global_Report/pdfs/Karachi.pdf
http://www.census.gov.pk/MotherTongue.htm

This also means that division of Sindh will be good for them. If that happens, Northern Sindh will have an overwhelming majority of Sindhis and a simple majority in Southern Sindh. Karachi, of course, will have a minuscule minority population. If Sindh is not divided, you will soon see them becoming a minority. By 2050, Sindhis will not constitute more than 40% of Sindh if the present geography remains as it is. One can expect major rioting at the time as people will refuse to learn Sindhi at schools and being governed by Sindhis.

It is better to accept the demographic realities and do the right thing now instead of facing the music later.

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You need to read the history of Sindh. When people of Sindh do not want any division, what is your problem? Are you interested in un-necessary bloodshed and chaos in the country? Due to situation in Karachi, the whole country is already suffering.

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Yeah, any talk of division is Sindh is not good as if the place is a holy cow. But you can talk about making dozens of provinces in other parts of Pakistan. That is a very good idea and will increase harmony.

What a lame logic!

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Again I must say you have right to express your opinion, but we also live in Karachi and interact with different parts of society. Yes, ppl do express their views against MQM, but I didn't hear anyone supporting division of Sindh on ethnic basis.

Demographic figures you quoted may also not be reliable due to inherent problems in our data collection system. Again, its the time and public who will finally decide about division of Sindh.

BTW: What model did you use to estimate Sindhi population at 40% in 2050.

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You are making a fool of yourself in every post

(1) No one in Sindh is asking for a province, they are asking for it in Punjab

(2) The areas in Punjab asking for a province has a completely different history and culture.

You plainly don't know the history of Sindh, just what your relatives in Lalukhet have told you.

Anyways, no more wasting time on extremists who only want more killing and bloodshed.

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You might not live in a common, downtrodden area where majority of Mohajirs live so you do not know the reality.

As for census, demographic figures are not reliable. According to them, Mohajirs were 49% of Karachi and 21% of Sindh in 1998. I say Mohajirs were 60% at that time. What will you say?

Like it or not, they were in an "official" census, not any random data collection in a locality. And national censuses do use a number of analytic tools worldwide.

You can look at the mother tongue data of 1998 at the link I've posted. Sindhi was spoken by 59.7% of population. Now look at the growth rate of Karachi. Just because of Karachi, Sindhi will become a minority language by 2050, even by 2040. They will still be in majority in rural areas but censuses count overall population and Sindhis will be a minority by then.

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I also do not want to waste my time on supporters of those who burn alive women and children.

Oh, and you said, "No one in Sindh is asking for a province, they are asking for it in Punjab ."

Sorry, but you are badly caught. Who are Sindhis to call for the division for Punjab? That effing Sharjeel memon is everywhere supporting the cause of division of Punjab and so are other Sindhi extremists. I am totally surprised that no one from Punjab is showing them the mirror. Just a friendly advice to Punjabis, look at the hate and venom in common Sindhis towards you.

You don't need to give me a history lesson. I guess you need it yourself.

And Sindh will be divided, InshaAllah!

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Pointless post

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I think Sindh should be divided just as other provinces of pakistan should be divided including Balochistan, Punjab and KPK. However, the division should be done on the basis of administration and not ethnicity. Sindh should be divided for the simple reason that Qaim Ali Shah alone cannot govern 40 million people. No matter how much sindhis oppose it, it will be great to break the hegemony of urdu speaking people in karachi and sindhis in interior sindh...... trust me, we really need to break these monopolies as the racism in interior sindh against other ethnicities is poisonous and ugly and all this due to the simple reason that the name of the province is sindh so sindhis consider themselves chaudharies of that place. Same is the story with balochs in balochistan and punjabis in punjab. The monopoly of one nationality in one province needs to broken.

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Even administrative division is fine for us but there should be a redrawing of provincial boundaries in every part of Pakistan, including Sindh.