Sindh Festival in Moenjodaro

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The hypocrisy is that imran hangs out with the same people who wear islam on their sleeves. The bigger sin is that imran tried to deny the daughter until the whole rendezvous with MQM happened which forced him to accept this truth.

I don't know how nirralas can 'ok' with such hypocrisy, unless hypocrisy is to be expected. Call me skeptical, but I was right in not donating my money to imran khan. Don't call other brown sahibs when you are one yourself. That is my beef with him.

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You really are wasting your time, if you expect me to pass fatwas on Imran's personal life. Me a Western born loonie liberal hippie don't care about anyone's private life, but if you do want to put someone personal life under microscope and carry out a total character assassination, how about we show some fairness and equality and leave no one out?

I tell you what real hypocrisy looks like, the people beloging to self advertised "liberal" parties giving fatwas on Imran's personal life. It's almost like an obsession. If you don't like Taliban or people wearing religion on their sleeves, than why go all Mullah on his personal life? Who decides what is "bigger sin"? Isn't the kind of attitude that's the root cause of all ills in Pakistan? What truth are you talking about? He himself says don't bother obsessing over my past, hear it from my own mouth that that I was never a saint nor ever claimed to be one, I was whatever they say I was. So what is the point of all that nit picking? I really do believe that Jinnah would've been burned at stake if he was living in current day Pakistan. And I do agree that it was really silly of Imran to bash brown sahibs when the founding father of the country is one of the most famous brown sahibs ever to hail from that part of the world.

I don't care what hypocrisy is according to you, the reality is, all current legislation work and initiatives are based on Western secular model of welfare system. So much for being a molvi or playboy, neither there is a case mandatory burqa or beard law in KPK nor bars are being opened in every street corner. Imran so far has remained true to his secular and progressive ideals.

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But Imran is not a "liberal" as he hangs out with jamat. No one has mentioned it, but Imran caucused with Jamat (MMA) on the women's bill in 2006. Now remember, these are the same people where one of their leaders munawwar hassan said that if women don't have 4 valid witnesses for rape then they should adopt silence.

You won't get any argument from me about the fact that liberal parties have "failed" Pakistan with the top slot going to the supposed "liberal Bhutto" per NFP.

I don't support one party or the other like a jiyala but I have seen that creeping in the PTI supporters here.

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I don't think it's the case of PTI just 'hanging' with JI. Unfortunately, PTI is an electoral coalition with JI in KPK, yet JUI is considered their arch enemies. So there is this great paradox. People of Pakistan have historically never voted any religious party into the power, and some people exaggerate their importannce beyond any limits and give them undue attention, while truly liberal voices are never given much attention.

I know quite a few of posters here who have admitted to being ex Jamatis in their youth and that's why they feel they have to compensate for any guilt by being overly anti Jamati and what not. Fortuntely for me, I've never been through the phase and I have no old demons to fight.

Before, asking why Munawaar Hasaan said this or that, the question an oustider like me wants to ask how on earth this country can have first female Prime Minister yet no movement on Women's Rights? Why did Benezir ever did for female advancement in Pakistan? She's hailed for speaking good English, but has anyone ever wondered why this foreign educated feudal revange queen never applied any progressive Western models on Pakistan? Wasn't new feminist movement at its peak in West when Benezir was living there, why didn't she think women of Pakistan also deserves better? Shame it took a dictator to give media it's freedom. At least Imran is staying true to his promise to provide very quintessentially British model of welfare system.

Imran should be given full credit for politcising the youth. In fact I'd say Pakistan is extremely lucky - in current unfortunate circumstances and with such a huge youth population - that it's not moving towards fascism or anarchy. There's always a danger for mindless blood revolution when high youth population, unemployment,, lawlessness, war and poverty comes together in one bracket.

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Pakistani society has not gone fascist yet? Ever heard about the bombings and descration of graves and killing people because you don't like their beliefs? Me thinks htat it pretty bad..

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Is it the case of society gone fascist or the thousands of monsters collectively created by Army, ISI, West, Saudi and Mohtarma are roaming around without a leash and biting the hand that once fed them?

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Not putting a leash on it to me is the first signs of the path to fascism.

Bad things happen all the time, but consider the fifties when anti-qadyani riots happens but army came in and restored order with the arrest of maudoodi as a result for inciting them.

Do you see that happening a lot (or even once recently)? LEJ jokers are still roaming around when the whole organization should have been shut down for bombings long time ago. Their whole modus ope***** is hate of one group.

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Hopefully they will eventually manage to eliminate it ith ease, not just put a leash on it. I hope when history is written and read by future generations, they are be able to look back and say 'you know what, we needed that lesson'. The kind of attitude Europe developed after going through two Great Wars.

I still have some hope in Pakistan, and why not? Chaos is always followed by some order (who was the famous Greek philospher who said this?...Well for now I'll just take the credit :D)

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In an ideal world, operation in Punjab would be priority and perhaps a solution to all the problems, but calling for ethnic cleansing of FATA just sounds more fashionable.

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Well, if taliban are based there, then they should get an operation as well. It can be a police / FC operation with military for special operations like in italy.

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Lol nothing Sindhi in the festival ......Poor Sindhis how can they bear these Bhuttos

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The paragraph that you quoted can be witnessed in Punjab as well. The government is carrying out festivals and stuff but the problems of people are piling up.

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The Sindh Festival arranged for the revival of Sindhi culture is a great idea indeed. It is bringing people together, and at the same time, people from across the world are learning about the rich heritage of Sindhi culture. I was looking forward to the Kite-flying event the most. At the same time, the entire festival has been great so far.

Ali Khan
DET, United States Central Command

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1618658_578804772213519_1292974152_n.jpg

Yes this really is from Sindh Festival. Way to go Billoo for* highlighting* the culture and civilization

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^ they are wearing ajraks :p

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That is not Ajrak. My avatar is wearing ajrak which is 5000 years old.

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That is not. It looks someone's house. These are model girls wearing block prints clothing. Nothing to do with traditional decent Sindhi dress wear by rural woman folk.

These seems to be prostitutes cum models favorite of your leader.

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UNESCO is also worried after what Sindh festival did to Moenjodaro site.

Moenjodaro ?in danger? after the Sindh Festival - DAWN.COM

ISLAMABAD: Though the recent Sindh Cultural Festival won its organisers international limelight, its launch on the ruins of the world heritage Moenjodaro on February 1 continues to worry many at home and abroad – foremost the United Nations Education, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO).

Documents seen by Dawn show that **two days later an alarmed UNESCO inquired from Pakistan’s Department of Archaeology and Museums (DOAM) how the inaugural ceremony of the festival could be held on the 5,000-year-old Moenjodaro site it had declared a world heritage in 1980, and if the event caused any damage.
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“It is requested that an appropriate response may be sent so that UNESCO could be briefed accordingly,” wrote Ghalib Iqbal, Pakistans representative at the UNESCO headquarters in Paris, as the organisation was to discuss the issue.
For UNESCO the federal government is the focal point for all six World Heritage Sites in Pakistan, which otherwise are controlled by the provinces after the devolution of powers.

“We forwarded the UNESCO inquiry to the Cultural, Tourism and Antiquities Department, Sindh for a feedback. Some damage might have been caused to the site since a stage was set, lights were installed, not to mention some 500 guests and an equal number of policemen for their security on the fragile remains,” said a DOAM official who felt the organizers of the Sindh Cultural Festival violated the Antiquities Act 1975.
The law prohibits any activity within 200 feet of a protected historical site.

Sindh’s Director Archaeology, Qasim Ali Qasim, however, said he was unaware of any letter from UNESCO inquiring about any damage from the event.
“I have seen no such letter. Though a meeting of the Antiquities Department and some representatives of the National Fund for Moenjodaro was held recently which concluded that no damage was caused to the Moenjodaro site,” he told Dawn.
Yet DOAM has not received any response from the Antiquities Department of Sindh.

On the other hand, Dr Nilofar Sheikh has resigned as chairperson of the Technical Consultative Committee, National Fund for Moenjodaro, in protest. She was not available for comments but her resignation was accepted on February 21.

Dr Asma Ibrahim, who is a member of the Technical Consultative Committee National Fund for Moenjodaro, says she was excluded from the meeting that, according to Mr Qasim, concluded that the festival did no harm to the world heritage site.
Dr Asma had opposed holding the opening ceremony over the remains of Moenjodaro, and urged the Department of Culture, Tourism and Antiquities to Sindh to hold the ceremony in the lawns of the Moenjodaro Museum instead.

A UNESCO mission is expected shortly in Pakistan to assess the conservation efforts, said a DOAM source fearing it might not change the status of Moenjodaro from a world heritage site to an endangered site as a warning.
Once UNESCO decides that, it can stop funding the maintenance and conservation of the site,” said the source.

Pakistan had a taste of such wrath in 1998 when UNESCO placed the historic Shalamar Gardens of Lahore on the endangered list after a link road built through the site destroyed its centuries-old hydraulic system, which fed its beautiful fountains.
“Since then the fountains have been dry. It took eight years, and intensive conservation efforts, to convince UNESCO that measures had been taken to save the world heritage site to prevent any further damage,” an archaeologist in DOAM recalled.
Again in 2010, UNESCO warned of declaring the Makli necropolis in Sindh an endangered site after peasants uprooted by the big floods in that year took refugee in the vast grounds of the world heritage site.
“We asked UNESCO for two years to ensure that no damage will come to Makli and the site will be preserved for future generations to appreciate,” said the province’s chief archaeologist, Qasim Ali Qasim.

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O bhai, that festival was organized on the ruins of one of the world's oldest and extremely fragile site.

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Is this ajrak? Ok. May be in your eyes.
But remember that Harappa civilization was as much Sindhi as it was Hindi/Hindu or Punjabi or Gujrati or Budh.