Re: Sindh Assembly passes resolution against division of Sindh
PPP presents resolution against division of Sindh, MQM will protest...and naturally both parties will remain sitting in the government.
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I am not against dividing provinces, be it punjab or sindh.
Considering MQM's racist approach toward other ethnicities if Karachi is handed over to them, I fear people from other provinces will have to pay tax even for entering Karachi.
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illiterate sindhis are way better than under-matric terrorists.
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I am not against dividing provinces, be it punjab or sindh. Considering MQM's racist approach toward other ethnicities if Karachi is handed over to them, I fear people from other provinces will have to pay tax even for entering Karachi.
Don't you think that Karachi still pays more tax (jagag tax) to MQM than Government. Its not limited to people from other areas, they have targeted the people 'jin ke naam ki duhai de kar' they get votes.
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Yes, division is not the matter. People would definitely go for options that lead to solution of their problems. On and off, MQM show its colours which prove why it is limited to slected areas. Its the bias (however they claim that they have given representation to other ethnicity in their party), their politics revolve around 'Jiye Muhajir'. Yes, I will also say 'Jiyye Muhajir... Jiye Sindhi, Jiye Punjabi. Pakistan ka bacha bacha Jeeway... but playing dirty politics and games will not solve problems of people. What have MQM done for Muhajirs after remaining in government for so many years. naslen hi tabah ki hai same like PPP did in rural Sindh due to strikes, keeping mum on major issues affecting people, doing showbazi and chanting 'Naye Sindhi, purane Sindhi'. They have spread venom of 'Nasl parasti' in veins of city. People do think hundred of times, while buying / renting home in particular areas of the city. The party which coined slogans 'Karachi main rehna hai , Jiye Muhajir Kehna hai', 'Gaon tumhara, shehr hamara' will not tolerate anyone going against its wishes in a province under their power. They will definitely break record of Shiva Sena.
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Don't you think that Karachi still pays more tax (jagag tax) to MQM than Government. Its not limited to people from other areas, they have targeted the people 'jin ke naam ki duhai de kar' they get votes.
Yes, that's why i think demands from such blood thirsty people should not be considered unless they behave like humans. Instead, strict rule of law should be enforced across the board. But who could do an honest job, ppp/pml themselves are bunch of corrupts and feudals.
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This is what MQM said this time. please Give me a better answer.
I am not answerable to you, this is wht I heard on one talk wasay you can watch in detail 11th hour wth waseem badami last night show there he asked this question to ik n he gave detailed reply there
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I just don't understand, why creation of new province is akin to breaking the country? Really? What is this marsoo marsoo fascist BS? Is this the new highly acclaimed and highly approved new Parliamentary lingo of status quo?
Ridiculous really. I guess this is what happens when half of young population of one province don't access to primary school education.
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History of mistrust is the problem and that is very well being exploited by political parties. simply, 'divide and rule' formula.
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I am not answerable to you, this is wht I heard on one talk wasay you can watch in detail 11th hour wth waseem badami last night show there he asked this question to ik n he gave detailed reply there
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Imran talks about democracy and yet there have been no local body elections in KP. You talk about provinces / administrative units and yet it was "no" in sindh NOT a "yes, but...." situation. It seems imran says something to urdu / english (especially) media while the party is following some other agenda. Either the party doesn't share imran's view or, as I increasingly believe now, imran is a hypocrite.
PS Sindh would never divide, since karachi serves as an offloading point to hand out jobs to party loyalists from the interior of sindh. There, I said the dirty words now. Multan is at least something, so a southern punjab province can happen economically, while a sindh even with hyderabad in it would collapse on itself. This is the same reason that karachi, lahore etc would never get any real authority or a decent local govt system because they are pet fiefdoms for certain "national" parties.
The only way forward for Pakistan is down and it would involve lots of death, disease, and starvation since Pakistan neither spends on infrastructure like dams / canals nor is there any viable health system in Pakistan. Perhaps the heaps of dead bodies would spur some grassroots societal action for change in pakistan.
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.. Imran talks about democracy and yet there have been no local body elections in KP. You talk about provinces / administrative units and yet it was "no" in sindh NOT a "yes, but...." situation. It seems imran says something to urdu / english (especially) media while the party is following some other agenda. Either the party doesn't share imran's view or, as I increasingly believe now, imran is a hypocrite.
call him whtever you want but don't be personal to me by saying .. EDITED. they have asked election commission for biometric system for local body elections even it was tested in Peshawar but EC didn't agree hence the delay in local bodies
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Calm down, OK ? What is with PTI and lucha lafanga rude attitude? I want a simple answer.
Imran talks about democracy and yet there have been no local body elections in KP. You talk about provinces / administrative units and yet it was "no" in sindh NOT a "yes, but...." situation. It seems imran says something to urdu / english (especially) media while the party is following some other agenda. Either the party doesn't share imran's view or, as I increasingly believe now, imran is a hypocrite.
There's a delay in LB elections, but PTI is still committed to it. Imran wouldn't go on and on about local government if the party's has decided to backtrack. I believe the deadline for LB election in KPK is November this year. But PTI certainly needs to get down to it.
As with creation of province in Sindh, he is right that it is an extremely 'delicate' issue simply because the Waderas won't ever let Karachi go, because if you take Karachi out of Sindh, what is left in Sindh? What would be Sindh? Every time you talk about division of Sindh, you get a war like a situation in Karachi, the thought alone is considered a high level treason, creating new province is akin to breaking a new country? What do you do to fight such extremism? How about creating a local government system and starting the process of empowering local community so the transition from local government system to new province is all natural and gradual (and hopefully bloodless).
Unfortunately, when it comes to dividing Sindh, there is indeed a very complicated 'yes, but situation', and you know that very well. I would personally like to see new provinces coming out of Punjab first to kick start the process. Sindhis Waderas would never ever allow their province be the guinea pig.
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As with creation of province in Sindh, he is right that it is an extremely 'delicate' issue simply because the Waderas won't ever let Karachi go, because if you take Karachi out of Sindh, what is left in Sindh?
Matter is not that simple. All other ethnicity will have to move out of Karachi if Karachi is made "Muhajir Abad". Sindh is still major provider of water, food and fruits to Karachi. Don't underestimate Sindh rural. Sindh rural has major coal mines, and oil reserves as compared to rest of Pakistan.
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- Both PPP and MQM have no concern for people. They are just playing dirty games to keep their vote bank intact, which is otherwise not supported by their performance.
I agree with you except that PPP has played its role for shutting of the speculations for creating "Muhajir Abad". That will be very much detrimental to the tranquility of people living together.
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Imran talks about democracy and yet there have been no local body elections in KP. You talk about provinces / administrative units and yet it was "no" in sindh NOT a "yes, but...." situation. It seems imran says something to urdu / english (especially) media while the party is following some other agenda. Either the party doesn't share imran's view or, as I increasingly believe now, imran is a hypocrite.
** PS Sindh would never divide, since karachi serves as an offloading point to hand out jobs to party loyalists from the interior of sindh. There, I said the dirty words now. Multan is at least something, so a southern punjab province can happen economically, while a sindh even with hyderabad in it would collapse on itself. This is the same reason that karachi, lahore etc would never get any real authority or a decent local govt system because they are pet fiefdoms for certain "national" parties. ** The only way forward for Pakistan is down and it would involve lots of death, disease, and starvation since Pakistan neither spends on infrastructure like dams / canals nor is there any viable health system in Pakistan. Perhaps the heaps of dead bodies would spur some grassroots societal action for change in pakistan.
You might need to visit rural Sindh to know how much resourceful it is. The only problem is its not being developed by political parties, both who represent purani Sindhi and those who represent naye Sindhi.
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We should give credit where it's due. Good on the Sindh Assembly for passing a resolution against the division of Sindh!
If MQM wallahs feel so anguished at their perceived grievances, instead of undermining Sindh dharti, the land that feeds them, perhaps they can consider moving to Punjab or Pakhtunkhwa? We will see how they will fare there.
Of course, Baluchistan is off-limit because Punjabi and muhajir/Urdu Speaking "settlers" get hounded there as Baluchistan already seems on the brink of secession from Pakistan. Speaking of secession, outsiders in Sindh perhaps should also keep in mind that outsider non-Bengalis/Biharees in East Bengal became persona non grata almost overnight when Bengalis got their freedom from Pakistan and Bangladesh became an independent country. Outsiders in East Bengal who left Bangladesh came to Sindh; the ones who wanted to leave but couldn't manage to do on their own were "stranded". Punjab for all its relative prosperity--some of which of course came at the expense of Bengalis--didn't come to the rescue of "stranded Pakistanis" in Bangladesh even though it was also the largely Punjabi dominated Pakistan Army that prosecuted its genocidal campaign against Bengalis and used its proxies during that campaign to drive a wedge between Bengalis and non-Bengalis in East Bengal.
Bottom Line: Outsiders/mohajir/Urdu speaking people in Sindh should be grateful for the generosity of Sindhis and for the giving, loving land of Sindh. Their future's tied with that of Sindh; don't bite the hand that feeds them.
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:k: Couldn’t have said better.
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Re: Sindh Assembly passes resolution against division of Sindh
lagta hay bhai ne na sirf Sindh balke pooray Pakistan ko apnay baap ki jaagir samajh lya hay. COAS or Chief ISI, MI jaisay us ke ghar ki londian hain.
Altaf lashes out at establishment for prejudice against MQM - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
KARACHI: Lashing out at ‘military establishment’ of Pakistan for persisting prejudice against Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) within its ranks, Altaf Hussain on Saturday night sought answers of the 14 questions he posed to the army chief a couple of days ago.
Speaking to a general workers meeting at MQM’s headquarters ‘Nine-Zero’ via video-link form London, he said the armed forces, Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Military Intelligence (MI) or Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) should respond to his 14 queries.
Hussain said ISI’s new nominated director general, Lt-Gen Rizwan Akhtar had alleged that MQM workers from South Africa carry out targeted killings in Karachi. “I told him to arrest such workers at the airport or shoot them on the spot,” he added.
The MQM chief claimed that people belonging to ‘establishment’ had told American authorities at the US Consulate that his party was behind the killings of Allama Abbas Kumaili’s son and Mufti Naeem’s son-in-law. “This is absolutely absurd,” he remarked.
He, yet again, offered to resign from the party’s leadership, which was amicably denied by the workers.
Altaf says will soon unveil establishment’s double standards
Criticising the military leadership, Altaf Hussain said that dictators imposed martial laws with the help of armed forces, however, no one dared to eradicate feudalism from the country.
Hussain said he does not want to divide the Sindh province. However, he added that countries or areas do not get divided by creating new administrative units or provinces. “By creating South Sindh, North Sindh, East Sindh and West Sindh, the Sindh province would not be divided.”
30 MQM workers arrested in raid at office, says party
He also criticised the quota system enforced by former prime minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto of PPP in 1970. “Quota system was imposed for 10 years, but it still has not been revoked,” he added.
The MQM chief also flayed veteran Chief Minister Sindh Syed Qaim Ali Shah, saying: “He is our elder, however, he does not know what he is doing.”
He claimed that PPP co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari has appointed Shah to follow his orders without any hesitation. “I supported Asif Zardari unconditionally for five years, but he did not accept my demands for the betterment of Karachi,” he said.