we dint intend to make fun of any other person's faith though as Islam does not allow that we were just asking for information to clear our thoughts<
Irem and arabeya, I didn't think for one moment you were making fun or anything, and u'r absolutely right to ask for info but its just the way it was put, it was so funny you know :)
I hope someone can clear it up :)
Ummm…I never meant to start the post for it to be humorous. And I am sorry to Allah if at some point I was laughing at someone’s belief or faith, my intention was never to ridicule anyone’s faith. Neither was 3arabeeya’s.
Thanks for the info that it says in their scripture, would you plz be able to provide authentic references to their scriptures abt that? I just want to make sure. Thanks :k:
I ask ppl to provide authentic references even when they provide me info abt Islam.
Don’t know what your second question is about…But since its not related to this topic I think…you are welcome to open another thread for it before the mods come and split this thread 
well you see… the quran says face the kaaba so for a reason… i’m trying to figure out sikhs’ scripture’s reason… still anal?
Your second comment follows no logic (not that your first did). If you mean to say that not all muslims are terrorists therefor one cannot expect that all sikhs kill muslims - you still are not making sense. There is no call for terrorism in Islam. Anyone who believes so has been misinformed. My question is to know if this is a mandate or not. If not, i’m only trying to inform myself so there’s no reason to press buttons and there certainly is no shame in me asking. If there is, im still not naive enough to believe that all sikh’s have it in them to take another life.
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3arabeeya :k:
Don't apologize to allah. Apologize to the first sikh person you see today.
And my second point was to show how idiotic the statement was about "sikh's mission to kill muslims". Just as it is stupid to think that all muslims are terrorists. Hope you get the point.
I apologise to Allah and I also apologise to any Sikh person who sees my post and is hurt by it because my intention was not to hurt their feelings or ridicule their religion at all. So Sikh fellow humans, please do not be upset 
I was however, and still am, curious.
I think 3arabeeya answers this point of yours well and explains my mindset as well…
ask "ChannMahi" I believe he is a sikh... pm him.
3arab...to some facing a stone to pray because a book says so is just as ridiculous. The logic would be that god is everywhere. Secondly, how many sikh holy warriors do you see running around flying planes into mosques or the skyscrapers of Dubai, clutching the Guru Granth Sahib.
Go to a gurdwara this sunday and you find that the sikhs are one of the most peaceful and egalitarian people in the world.
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ask "ChannMahi" I believe he is a sikh... pm him.
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Hmm...thanks for letting me know :-) I'll see if he comes into this thread and replies, else I might PM him...
As I'm Muslim and no authority on Islam, my knowledge is poor abt Islam...therefore I dint contact the Sikh guppies I know of personally as I didn't know how deep their knowledge of their religion was and din't want to embarrass them or put them in a spot where they wud have to be the spokesppl for their religion...u get me na? :-)
I wanted ppl [of any religion but with knowledge abt this issue] to reply in the thread so that multiple opinions could be shared on the issue and ppl with different levels of knwledge abt Sikhism could provide info...
you still are not being logical in the formation of your sentences. Someone can think that a Muslim practice is funny; that’s fine. and of course, if a person is not muslim they are going to disagree with Islam’s rationale on symbolic representations of faith. I never said any belief was rediculous. I am asking a question. Do you agree that there is no harm in asking? Your responses are not answers, they’re random semi-provoking thoughts strewn together.
Your second point (again, if you can call it a point) is so out of no where i feel the need to 
I can declare myself a Christian/Jewish/Muslim/Sikh/Budhist holy warrior and do something stupid but that doesnt mean that any of those religions propagate violence and distruction.
Your last comment, which by the way I must commend you on as it was quite coherent, i don’t doubt. Again, i do not think sikh’s are bad people. I’m sure there are peaceful sikh’s and kind sikh’s and moral sikh’s and sikh’s who are good parents and i’m also sure there are sikh’s who are criminals and sikh’s who are violent. There is every kind of person in every known religion. I never said anything to infer the contrary.
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3arab...to some facing a stone to pray because a book says so is just as ridiculous. The logic would be that god is everywhere. Secondly, how many sikh holy warriors do you see running around flying planes into mosques or the skyscrapers of Dubai, clutching the Guru Granth Sahib.
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I think you already proved your point above, there was no reason to stoop this low to say 'just as ridiculous' because that then invalidates your arguement for respect of religions above. There was also no need to mention the flying planes shyt. I seriously expected better from you, don't ask why.
Sehar, with all do respect. I know that islam does not prescribe terrorism. It is to make a point that why does it make it ok for some to bring up completely ridiculous questins such as "sikhs mission to kill all muslims". My comment is to show that just as it seems ridiculous and offensive for a muslim to be perceived as a terrorist because of the actions of a few, it would also be offensive for a sikh. And I do not need to be a sikh to make that point. It could be a hindu, buddhist.
I apologize if the above comment was out of line but such grand generalizations are a continuous ranting of a few. Whether it be "gorays" or "sikhs"..tomorrow it could be those darn buddhists.
And I do not feel that my comment regarding flying planes was "low". Please do let me know how many sikhs are there killing muslims around the world. This further proves that in the absence of any proof to validate this topic's heading, the poster or the mod allows such a thread to be posted. Logic should prevail sometimes, don;t you think?
And I expect better from people as well to make it a two way street.
so it took me all of 30 seconds to formulate a response to this comment (which, you guessed it, again i see as unfounded) but then i realized that you’ve taken this :topic: and i’m not going to continue that route.
I implore anyone who can to please respond to the original topic. Those interested are truly trying to understand and have entered into this discussion open mindedly to dispel myths and learn truths.
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I agree with 3arabeeya.
The original topic was a sincere question. Anyone who knows the correct answer, please share it with us and add authentic references to Sikh scripture. Thanks :-)
I hope the Sikh fellow human beings will not take offense at the question, plz be assured that our intention was not to create humor but to find the right answer, and if we did not clear this issue we would have just stayed with that negative assumption that this is indeed true.
Salam,
irem
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It is to make a point that why does it make it ok for some to bring up completely ridiculous questins such as "sikhs mission to kill all muslims". My comment is to show that just as it seems ridiculous and offensive for a muslim to be perceived as a terrorist because of the actions of a few, it would also be offensive for a sikh.
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Irem and her friend already clarified that this post wasn't in anyway made to ridicule Sikhism. They heard it from a Sikh in all sincerity and seriousness so they sought to clarify it. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. We've had topics in religion forum about muslims/islam that seemed ridiculous but for the purpose of clarifying it for others, they were left and discussed.
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And I do not feel that my comment regarding flying planes was "low". Please do let me know how many sikhs are there killing muslims around the world.
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It was, knowing fully well what's happening with the muslims around the world by the work of the few and after saying that "islam does not prescribe terrorism", and also knowing that how many sikhs there are killing muslims around the world. Not many, i know, and believe me i'm usually the first to speak when people ridicule others religions b/c i have close friends who are sikh, hindus, christians, etc. along with muslims. I have all the respect for other religions.
Shukran Sehar :-)
THIS IS WUT I LEARNED IN WORLD RELIGION CLASS
during the time of one of the Mughal Emperors (i think it was Akbar) Sikhs were especially being discriminated against, tortured and murdered in huge numbers. so a resistance started and the head of that resistance was their tenth guru, Guru Gobind Singh. Guru Gobind Singh named their resistance “Khalsa”. Now to being part of Khalsa, you had to follow some rules, 5 of which being the most important. Long hair, kara (bangel), the knife, a comb and the shorts.
following is taken from http://photon.bu.edu/~rajwi/sikhism/mansukh3.html#q47 since i don’t have my class notes anymore
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When Guru Gobind Singh created the Khalsa Panth in 1699, he ordered them to maintain the five symbols - Panj Kakar. These symbols were not only necessary for the strength and uniformity of the organization, but also for the value they each had in their own right. Let us examine the significance of each symbol.
Hair(kesh) was regarded as a symbol of saintliness and Dharma in ancient times. The Biblical story of Samson Agonistes shows that hair was his source of strength and vitality. Guru Nanak started the practice of keeping unshorn hair. His son Sri Chand, the founder of the Udasi sect, also ordered his followers to maintain long hair. The keeping of hair is regarded as an indication of living in harmony with the Will of God. The shaving of hair may be construed as interference in nature’s way and considering oneself wiser than God. keeping hair is the most important symbol. A Khalsa become apostate (Patit) if he shaves or trims his hair.
The comb(Kanga) is necessary for keeping the hair clean and tidy.
Underwear(Kachh) is regarded as a symbol of chastity. Moreoever, it allows unembarrassed movement in times of action. It is also easy and comfortable to wear when at rest. it serves as a mark of readiness and agility.
Sword (Kirpan) is an emblem of courage and adventure. In order to have self-respect, the Khalsa should maintain the means to vindicate his honour. The sword is to be used for the defence of others and not for offence. From the possession of a sword comes the Khalsa Panth to be a brotherhood of arms.
The steel bracelet(Kara) is a symbol of restraint and gentility, it also reminds the Sikh that he is bonded to the Guru. When a Sikh looks at it, he will think twice before doing an evil deed. These symbols are kept to preserve corporate unity and to foster the sentiment of brotherhood. They assist a Khalsa look exactly like Guru Gobind Singh(formwise) and thus hopefully prompt him to behave like a Guru.
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now someone might say that the above are just simply what they want us to believe, but i think that these are the principals to which Sikhism developed into and from, kinda like what we have in Islam, our five main pillars. I NEVER FOR A SECOND BELIEVED THAT THEY CARRIED A KNIFE TO KILL MUSLIMS OR THEY WON’T CUT THEIR HAIR UNTIL ALL MUSLIMS ARE DEAD.
I went to a gurdwara for our class retreat and our tourer (nevermind the spelling) who was a sikh, didnt’ for a second mentioned that their resistance started because of Muslims and Muslims in that period in time really butchered em. He kept saying “an evil ruler”.
anyways, my two cents guys. and if there is any Sikh here, please correct me anywhere you would like. I DON’T CLAIM TO BE 100% CORRECT IN ANY OF THE ABOVE.
thanks a lot for that response brother :k:
i am in my heart relieved now that this somewhat debunks the original post of mine you give a very good insight into sikh beliefs. i’ll still wait for more responses, something which perhaps addresses also where the original concept I mentioned originated from…i’m curious to know that…i am for now believing its the work of mischeif mongerers who belong to no religion but want to create mischief…
thanks again :k: