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^^ I agree.. there could be benifits of legalizing it.. Besides Amstredam and Las Vegas... I heard the goverment in Norway or Sweden gives money to handicapped guys to pay for prostitution so that they can get laid.. its part of handicapped welfare.. any idea if thats true?
I don't care about prostitution but the day GANJA is LEGAL, I'm throwing a party !
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^^ isn't it already a small scale industry?
legalizing has many benefits.
It can be controlled, disease prevention can be done, these workers can be legalized and protected.
Prostitution occurs in every country, its no use fighting it, but rather legalize it in such a manner that 12 year old girls are not involved but the workers have to be over 21, get regular medical check ups for disease prevention, know their rights and get police protection if they get mishandled by their customers, etc...
do you think all these controls possible in sub continent
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Wow. How would you feel if some little girl in your family got kidnapped, and got lost in the human flesh trade? Would you be ok with legal red light districts then?
How can you allow for something in which women get hurt and abused?
Oh wait, you're the guy who thinks that any girl with some science knowledge has gotta be a nurse.
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PyariCgudia, legalizing the sex trade can help protect women and children from an industry that will forever exist.
Amsterdam's sex workers have regular health checks and are in constant contact with social services. It's highly regulated and there's absolutely no human trafficking involved. Trafficking itself is one reason Amsterdam decided to legalize/regulate prostitution.If a worker is ever abused, she is in direct contact with law enforcement. In Amsterdam prostitution is consentual. Here legalization works.
But that's not to say prostitution should be legalized everywhere. I fear countries without law & order where the legalization of prostitution will only worsen the situation for women. Legalization and regulation can only help when you have a civic back bone that can properly address abuses. Pakistan doesnt. Legalizing wont work here.
The problem thus is: We cannot legalize/regulate because without a civic backbone Pakistan is not yet prepared to regulate the industry. Legalization can help, but when no one respects the law we cant legalize/regulate. Ok, so we know we cant legalize in Pakistan. So we make it illegal. Prostitution today is illegal but our dismal social services/legal system still don't do anything to protect women. We've made it illegal, but it doesn't help either. What do we do?
We cant benefit from legalizing/regulating because we dont have a legal system in place. Making it illegal does nothing because we dont enforce laws against it. You've got a legal system in shambles and in the end women and children suffer. Sad aint it.
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That implies the premise that women would WANT to be prostitutes. No woman, if given proper opportunity, is going to sell herself for sex. If a woman wants to have lots of sex, she'll do it without selling herself. Simple. Legalizing it just allows further exploitation of women.
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Yes it does have that implication. The only exploitation in though is selfploitation. If it’s regulated and they have an opportunity to leave we are no body to say if this is wrong or not. Let me show you a documentary by an Armenian team. There’s no nudity. Skip to 5:10 into the movie or 2:40 from the end. An Armenian sex worker why some people are in the industy.
There are many women and men who would subject themselves to prostitution to earn a quick buck. When it’s legal there is a financial motivation attached.
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Right, so why not provide people the opportunity to earn a quick buck without exposing their dignity?
A lot of people end up in prostitution for the typical reasons like drugs, etc. But a lot end up in it because they're on their way to act in movies, and they're made to jump the porn hoops. Why not regulate entertainment industries, and get rid of the "casting couch"?
There are so many other ways to regulate society, yet somehow legalizing prostitution is the only lucid solution to some people. I'm not antagonizing you. But I think a lot of the proponents just want to get free access to prostitutes.
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Without losing dignity? Because no other industry gives a 20 year old girl with no education 200 dollars an hour. 1,000 a night. Why did a recent New York law student sell her body? To quote her in the NY Post:
You make it seem everyone gets into prostitution because they are somehow forced. Wrong. Many people chose to sell their body. At $200 an hour some people are willing to do it.
As for your drugs claim, it only happens where drugs and sex are unregulated. In Amsterdam prostitutes have to be drug free. In Amsterdam you cannot buy drugs if you’re a junkie.
**I took offense to your last sentence. Why? Because people that advocate legalization/regulation realize prostitution wont go away. You can get an unregulated prostitute for $25 or you can get a regulated prostitute for $200. We are NOT trying to get free access. ** As a proponent I can only make sure people are not FORCED into prostitution. Thats what legalization/regulation does. It makes sure prostitution is consensual. That a 16 year old is not having sex because she was snatched from her house. Or that a 25 year old is not having sex because a pimp owns her.
Prostitution is bad. Yes. I agree. But people that oppose legalization/regulation live in a fairy land where one day prostitution will magically disappear. You cant stand on a crate and tell me making it illegal will solve the problem. It wont. You dont realize countless number of women and children will be abused even more if you dont legalize and regulate. There is absolutely no way you can make prostitution disappear. Lets make sure people that sell their bodies are doing it because they want to.
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It's very sad and absolutely disgusting that any woman would willingly and soberly sell her own body for some money. I wonder what happened to them that they would demean themselves for just some money.
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While I don't necessarily support it being made legal, I don't think this is altogether true. I certainly don't know many people that would "support" their children if they were to be prostitutes in Las Vegas, and I don't know many women that would want to be, even though it is legal (actually its not legal in the city of Las Vegas, you have to be outside city limits to have alegal brothel). The pictures of legal sex workers I have seen are not very, errr, pretty.
I meant the clients i.e. the visitors of brothels. In Pakistani culture many a people don’t want to be caught visiting such places not only out of fear of God but the social ruckus, it might not be a noble enough reason to refrain from such vices but it certainly is a major one.
Besides all the ideas where legalizing is suppose to minimize health risks and child abuse to me are nothing but bullocks! Call it religious conviction, call it what one pleases I find it despicable, I find the money earned in that manner tainted and I find government legitimising it to be morally and humanely devoid of any decency. Governments are not all about economy and success rates, their only responsibility isn’t just to make sure people are fed and healthy but also to ensure the welfare of a community morally. I see no good in prostitution and I don’t see any reason for it to be legalised.
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no, and it’s really sickening to hear about this in pak. :no:
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Sometimes you will do desperate things in order to feed/clothe yourself and your family.
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Wow. How would you feel if some little girl in your family got kidnapped, and got lost in the human flesh trade? Would you be ok with legal red light districts then?
How can you allow for something in which women get hurt and abused?
Oh wait, you're the guy who thinks that any girl with some science knowledge has gotta be a nurse.
When i started the thread it was meant to be sarcastic.
The way some people on this board were enraged at brothel issue, i thought may be people wud like these women to be protected under law.
And not any girl, only PCG:D
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Prostitutes as a general thing make a lot of money out of tourism and from rich people...
To many it is a choice that they make...most of the women tend to be single mums needing money for their family...they dont have extended family to look after them or they blame them for either being ubmarried with a child or to blame for a husband leaving...
It pays a lot more than a regular job and how can the government deal with that...when a tourist visits a country they can easily pay a couple of days wages for an hour with a chick...when your broke and you have responsibilities then prostitution is an easy way out...
Its not going to bring happiness but it does put food on the table a hell of a lot easier than a regular job...
Btw im not a fan of legalising it because it actually legitimises it but what it does to is it protects the prostitutes themselves and ensures that they are healthy etc...so in that sense it makes sense...
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You’re contradicting yourself. If it didn’t pay 200 dollars an hour, do you think she still would have been interested in going crazy in this manner? No, she’d probably go bunjee jumping instead if she were to find out prostitution pays 10 dollars an hour.
The lucrative money offer is really what drives people. And that’s what needs to be condemned. It shouldn’t be allowed that some guy with lots of money (or girl) can wave around 200 dollars and get a human being to take their clothes off.
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When i started the thread it was meant to be sarcastic.
The way some people on this board were enraged at brothel issue, i thought may be people wud like these women to be protected under law.
And not any girl, only PCG:D
wears a flashy nurse's outfit and turns away from Iconoclast and says "Kiss my arse" - wala icon.
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You're fooling yourself if you think there are no human trafficking going on in places like Nevada and the Netherlands, where prostitution is legal and regulated. The "problem" is that very few women wake up in the morning and say, 'forget beoming a lawyer, or getting married...I want to become a prostitute.' As long as prostitution exists, there will be women being kidnapped and trafficked, and forced into the sex trade...or being forced into it because they are poor and have no other way to support their families, or even their drug addictions.
Legalizing prostitution wouldnt end sex trafficking in Pakistan. It would just turn Lahore and Karachi into weekend vacation destinations for dirty old Arab men looking to rape 13 year olds.
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sure prostitution shud b legal
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IF U WANT EVRY1 2 GET AIDS N SPREAD IT UNTIL THE WHOLE WORLD HAS IT
seriously....this is soooo effin stupid...
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^^ by not making prostitution legal, has led to the spread of Aids.
Controlled environment, can be controlled, but an uncontrolled and un-regulated environment such as prostitution can lead to the spread of diseases, trafficking of girls, under age sex, abuse, violence and crime.
This is an industry that has existed for thousands of years and will continue to exist.
Even in Saudi Arabia and Makkah, there are prostitutes and pimps.