showing feelings in Pakistan

Southie · March 31, 2013, 3:05am

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^ and my lame attempt bombed. By madrasis I meant people from Madras (or Chennai)

Midnight_express_91 · March 31, 2013, 4:08am

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You really are scum do you know that?? He out debates you and what do you do?? you do the only thing that was left for you to do - resort to personal attacks

X2 · March 31, 2013, 4:23am

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it indeed runs in the family. None of us are okay with the jahalat that passes culture as religion..

not sure where you read that they are not haji. considering I grew up in saudi arabia and went to makkah with my folks a dozen times at hajj time. either they were doing hajj there or it was a picnic, but I will ask them..

since your entire premise of making fun of my parents it based on you assuming...yet again making an ass out of U and the Ming dynasty, and now that I have openly stated that they have gone for multiple hajj, then I guess the LOL goes away..dont worry if it has not it will...

No, they hold hands in front of me at times because there is nothing wrong with it.

because if we will play religion religion..

I think prayers are required and noted in quran several times, so is virtue of reading quran...
now I have not seen any surah in quran that says that

1) its not allowed for a married couple to hold hands
2) a woman can not be attached to her husband and not follow him
3) a married woman has to go to her parents home every weekend

I have not seen this criteria as the definition of being a good muslim, and it was this criteria that the buddhi was using to call the girl as not a good muslim. People can stay fixated on holding hands if they want, the entire basis is that a 19 year old girl is being criticized as not being a good muslim for things that have zero, zilch, nada to do with islam. At least the islam that appears in Quran...

Oh ....I can indeed say hypocrite..

Hypocrite

see...I think I just did :)

and...it appears the banana is still on the ladder :)

PS: if you are going to research me and find out that I have 2 kids, you could have probably found out that i have been to hajj several times, but desis...attention to detail is just not there. Now see the entire basis of your argument about attacking my parents for not being hajji just became irrelevant
PS2: again...assuming makes an ass out of U and the ming dynasty. have some respect for them

saggirl · March 31, 2013, 4:23am

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He has been brutally personally attacking me ever since I have started posting on this forum. So before you look at my reaction look at his action. He likes to use what has been posted to mock and make a point so he just got it back. And there is nothing wrong or horrible in what I said, I am just pointing out inconcistincies in his the way he likes to in my posts.

You people are the scum who insist on public displays of affection in fron of your parents and brother sister and family.

saggirl · March 31, 2013, 4:26am

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We are talking about public displays of affection Shameless SUperman Do not try to twist the argument. Nice try . Real smart ass thinks nobody is going to respond to you eh.

X2 · March 31, 2013, 4:30am

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lets play a game
you show me where I personally attacked you
and then I will show you were you personally attacked me
deal?

mizzrani · March 31, 2013, 4:31am

showing feelings in Pakistan

Jeez so much drama over holding hands, their newly married for gods sake!

And sad girl, if this forum is full of scums why bother posting.

saggirl · March 31, 2013, 4:47am

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X2:

it indeed runs in the family. None of us ate okay with the jahalat that passes culture as religion..

not sure where you read that they are not haji. considering I grew up in saudi arabia and went to makkah with my folks a dozen times at hajj time. either they were doing hajj there or it was a picnic, but I will ask them..

since your entire premise of making fun of my parents it based on you assuming...yet again making an ass out of U and the Ming dynasty, and now that I have openly stated that they have gone for multiple hajj, then I guess the LOL goes away..dont worry if it has not it will...

No, they hold hands in front of me at times because there is nothing wrong with it.

because if we will play religion religion..

I think prayers are required and noted in quran several times, so is now I have not seen any surah in quran that says that 1) its not allowed for a married couple to hold hands 2) a woman can not be attached to her husband and not follow him 3) a married woman has to go to her parents home every weekend

I have not seen this criteria as the definition of being a good muslim, and it was this criteria that the buddhi was using to call the girl as not a good muslim.

Oh ....I can indeed say hypocrite.. I think I just did :)

btw it appears the banana is still on the ladder :)

PS: if you are going to research me and find out that I have 2 kids, you could have probably found out that i have been to hajj several times, but desis...attention to detail is just not there. Now see the entire basis of your argument about attacking my parents for not being hajji just became irrelevant PS2: again...assuming makes an ass out of U and the ming dynasty. have some respect for them

You said yourself that they are not haji. GO back and read your post or did you suddenly get amnesia ? ANd now you are conveniently saying that they went hajj a million times. So by that logic you are implying that only haji people dont hold hands in front of family members. Its by deductive logic not by assumption.

I never spoke about the girl going to her parents house every weekend. The person added that later. I am only talking about that if the mil said it is not appropriate for the couple to hold hands in front of his family then that is the norm in all pakistani households. It is not considered respectful. I have never heard of this in any pakistani household nor have ever been to a pakistani household where the parents are holding hands in front of family members or any other pakistanis for that matter. Nobody is following the couple outside where they can hold hands where they are alone or following them in their room. It is not appropriate in front of parent and bros and sis and other family. Outside of family nobody is discussing here.

And I never attacked your parents I was laughing at the absurdity of your argument concerning why it is okay for a supposedly religious couple , the women who is wearing hijab to hold hands in front of family members . You don't lie people bringing in your family or significant people in your life into argument s then don't do it to them which you have done to me repeatedly in other thread. What you give is what you get. If you can't take it then don't dish it out. ANd STop bringing dinosaurs and Ming synasty into the argument to pretend like you are very cool and nobody can out argue you. IT is about shame and respect none of which you have. It doesn't matter how you argue you calling an elderly woman 'buddhi' is disrespectful any which way you look at it.

X2 · March 31, 2013, 4:49am

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because opposites attract maybe :)

to me it is not about holding hands, its bigger, it is about people taking ridiculous cultural and family crap and pass it as religion. That is not cool, that is the root cause of a lot of mess among Pakistanis. It is about using things like showing affection, following husband, and not going to parents home as behavior that makes someone a bad muslim.

How exactly. Anyone can call me any name they so wish, but the fact is that none of this makes anyone a bad muslim. simply not true, simply not acceptable

X2 · March 31, 2013, 5:12am

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Is talking about ming dynasty or dinosaurs unislamic too

punjabi_kuri_1 · March 31, 2013, 6:15am

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LAFANTAR...

And what is your mentality ?

How was this guy speaking to me and bringing up my posts from other threads into discussions and being so cheap. What about his mentality. I am just reciprocating back his medicine to him. Then you did not say anything. Because you are also of the shameless or you are scared of this guy because he tries to humiliate anyone with views opposing to his by bringing using their life information and constantly making cheap jokes.
**Ok. I am scared of you now Happy?
Why don’t you use your brain and think that if everyone thinks he is right then there must b some reason…
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You want to hold your man’s hand in front of your parents ? Why stop there what kissing and keep going. Tomorrow you types will complain what is wrong in making babies in front of our families. It is sunah for husband and wife to show love to each other. Hai na **and you want them to do all this ^ in public… hai na?
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You all want to applaude this shameless man because he puts on an act thinks he is all a modern superman who brings in fantasy creatures in his discussion and you all applaude him in fear. He can go to Pakistan with his pseudo muslim parents and put these antics in place and very soon he will be ousted out from our republic of pakistan. He can put as much of an act he wants but it will NEVER be ACCEPTED in our society and NO ONE WILL YIELD to behayai and besharmie no matter how much such hooligans want it **Seems like you are scared of him now. Typing whatever coming in your damagh.. You need a break saggirl… holding hands in front of family is not be-hayai… they had nikkah in front of all those people… **

And you should be ashamed.. even if you think its wrong you could have explained to your dewrani k thora careful raho… and explained to your MIL that holding hand doesn’t make that girl bad or be-haya… instead of explaining you are adding oil in fire…
if you dont have any MIL issue… to Rub ka shukar ada karo.. kyun doosron k masly mein tang aRa rahi ho..

Reha · March 31, 2013, 6:19am

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They don't need to but they can if they want to. They're married according to Islamic law...which is far above Pakistani law and traditions. Are you a Muslim saggirl? Do you believe in Allah swt and the institution of marriage? Do you know anything about Islam or just the PTV dramas?

I want to read a response to this please saggirl. You have not responded at all to this...just keep saying random stuff to cover up this hypocrisy. What do you have to say about this? You can backbite about your fiancé on an open forum, call him vulgar names yet a harmless and lawful act between husband and wife has you angry and hopping around like this? Its so weird to me and I wonder if this is just a trolling attempt? People like you cannot possibly be out there. If you are...can you specify where you are so I avoid that place?

Reha · March 31, 2013, 6:24am

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There's no behayai or besharmi in holding your husband's hand in public or private. The real besharams are people who cannot seem to let a happy couple live in peace. Its called jealousy and its dangerous. The wife shouldn't hold her husband's hand because women like the MIL and saggirl could possibly give their marriage buri nazar.

S_and_S · March 31, 2013, 6:34am

saggirl:

I never spoke about the girl going to her parents house every weekend. The person added that later. I am only talking about that if the mil said it is not appropriate for the couple to hold hands in front of his family then that is the norm in all pakistani households. It is not considered respectful. I have never heard of this in any pakistani household nor have ever been to a pakistani household where the parents are holding hands in front of family members or any other pakistanis for that matter. Nobody is following the couple outside where they can hold hands where they are alone or following them in their room. It is not appropriate in front of parent and bros and sis and other family. Outside of family nobody is discussing here.

And I never attacked your parents I was laughing at the absurdity of your argument concerning why it is okay for a supposedly religious couple , the women who is wearing hijab to hold hands in front of family members . You don't lie people bringing in your family or significant people in your life into argument s then don't do it to them which you have done to me repeatedly in other thread. What you give is what you get. If you can't take it then don't dish it out. ANd STop bringing dinosaurs and Ming synasty into the argument to pretend like you are very cool and nobody can out argue you. IT is about shame and respect none of which you have. It doesn't matter how you argue you calling an elderly woman 'buddhi' is disrespectful any which way you look at it.

What the **** are you even going on about?? How the heck do you go from holding hands to "fornication" (for a lack of a better word) in front of your parents???? Wtf?

kakee · March 31, 2013, 6:41am

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I think mods should lock this thread now. Its getting out of hand.

Muzna · April 1, 2013, 5:59pm

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naaah…vengeance would mean that there is actually a battle of wits here…sadly she’s not shown that she can debate in a reasonable manner. she has returned with nothing of substance…just personal attacks.

too bad.