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you so funneeee
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^ i clearly mentioned in my post that i dont think they're doing anything wrong... i do not agree with the MIL's complaints. If anything, she should reprimand her son about these "issues" rather then blame it on the DIL.
All i'm saying is that not holding hands doesn't hurt the couple, but is clearly annoying the MIL so i personally believe its wiser when living in such a joint family system to avoid it. They can hold hands when together and MIL isn't around... koi intni baRhi qurbaani nahi deni paRh rahi hai.
I'd never hold my husband's hands if we're out at Hydri but wouldn't think twice if we're at Zamzama :)
Oh I am not disagreeing, look at it broadly though. I would agree with you if it was just about holding hands. but her expectations are ridiculous, essentially during the weekend when her son is free, she does not want the wife around. Yes they can be careful and not hold hands, I get it, i dont agree with it but i get it and it is probably the simplest to just avoid it in front of her, but how they tackle weekly kickouts from the home for the wife.
So my basic issue is ridiculous expectations rolled up in mumbo jumbo about traditions and culture. No harm in someone standing up and saying, with all due respect, no.
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The bahu should say, "well saasu maa, aap ne he toh apne bete k liye mera HATH manga tha!"
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not really, but that is what you are assuming, and assuming makes and ass out of U and the ming dynasty. Please be respectful. They contributed a lot to human civilization
I can not, society as a whole does. cultures have changed…now of course when you say ‘thousands’ it also means multiple thousands..
since you had quoted that maulvi character earlier, it looks like you are making some point about religion as well
now religion is not even 2 thousand years old, so when we talk about thousands of years of culture, …we must be referring to a non-islamic culture in which case why do u want to preserve the debauchery that islam was revealed to fight against..
however, if we are saying that no, it is islamic to not hold hands, to not show affection..as in the girl following her husband, and if there is a particular surah that you can produce or his maulvi can conjure up that shows some divine expectation that a girl is expected to go to her parents home every weekend then by all means I am sorry.
Is she not a buddhi? is buddhi a bad word?
I mean surely you yourself may have used words worse than buddhi..havent you?
i have heard the word budhi or burrhya to refer to an old lady, see even this has a title of 'budhi aurar ka waqia"
“evolevment” hmmmm not sure if there is such a word (unlike buddhi which is a real word as as indicated, used to refer to old ladies in translations of hdaeeth even)…assuming (sorry..i know that makes an ass out of u and the ming dynasty)..you meant evolution…you did selective reading.
so let me just address all there points here
1- open public display of affection is nothing wrong, plus when someone in in their home its not a ‘public’ place. But i see your concern, today if we say okay for a husband and wife to hold hands, then tomorrow wild interspecies orgies will be breaking out at all chorahas. That is indeed very sound reasoning and I can not argue against it. I stand corrected.
2- the buddhi had issues with the wife following her husband, hmmmm not sure what sort of major societal ills that will create, …oh yes i remember wild interspecies orgies at all chorahas.
3- expectation that the girl will go to her parents place every weekend, again I am not sure what societal ills that can create…hmmm…ah ha…the wild interspecies orgies at chorahas…you are so brilliant.
lastly this buddhi considered this girl as not religious because she does not do this. ..right then…to me that is more vulgar than anything. someone making up crap and then if you dont follow the same crap then you are not religious.
yes yes..we did cover the wild interspecies orgies at chorahas already…and directly…directly as a result of girls not going to their parents home every weekend.
How dare they…how the hell dare they create this wild interspecies orgies at choraha problem directly by their refusal to follow the islamic farz to go to parents house on weekends. How dare they!!!
not only have you shown me the error of my ways, but, you have me fired up to fight against this problem…
yeah yeah, people are sensitive and resort to violence if they dont like what they hear, another great part of our tradition and culture that must not be changed,
because today if we claim that violence against someone who has a different viewpoint is bad, and thus it must stop…before you know it, culture will deteriorate and wellllll…we are back to the wild interspecies orgies at choraha problem 
o bhai jaan (hiding in a girls nick) a few sentences ago it was thousands, now its millions…do you know how to count to a million?
anyways but you know best, millions of years ago, dinosaurs expected that their daughter in law dinosaurs will go to their parent’s caves on weekends.
but i do see where teh hand holding issue comes from, dinosaurs had tiny arms, if they tried ti hold hands they would probably fall, and make a mess, you know break fine china, spills on the rugs, so it made sense.
bring shameless and vulgarity into our culture? go take a walk in shahi mohalla, nothing i say brings anything close to the vulgarity and shamelessness that exists in your so called culture today.
same culture where women are paraded naked in villages as punishment to their family?
same culture where in the name of honor women are brutally murdered?
same culture where acid attacks on women are a problem?
same cultures where buddhi saas burn bahus who did not bring enough dowry?
same culture where greed of dowry leaves poor girls unmarried?
same culture where abandoned girls are taken in not to become teachers, and healers, but tawaif?
you can take your millions year old culture, and…well i will leave the rest to your imagination, since you seem to have a pretty wild one.
PS: i guess the banana is still sitting on the ladder.
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tiny arms of dinosaurs…
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btw I forgot…
did you not call your soon to be husband..or rather when he was yoiur soon to be husband
fatty baldy ugly dog..
or him referring to you as a female canine but not in such gentlemanly manner
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/life-and-relationships/588972-insulting-lover-5.html
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/life-and-relationships/602471-in-big-trouble-3.html
I wonder what this maulvi of yours would think about that,
you know as you said “shamelessness and vulgarity” and
“No shame no respect” or
about not letting “millions of years of culture to change because of a few shameless rude people”
and about making excuses at qiyamat for brining
" vulgarity and shamelessness into our culture and society"
guess you should go back and listen to your fav maulvi a few times…Just sayin’
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do not…do NOT make fun of them that is how they were made, you are being rude and vulgar and going to mess up millions of years of culture and be responsible for interspecies orgies in chorahas all over pakistan.
repent sinner repent…listen to these words of wisdom
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X2 you are hilarious. lol :-)
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sooo funny xD
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anxiously waiting for saggirl's reply.....
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X2, you have just made my day…
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What naan sense....
I don't think I can hold hand in-front of my family.
MIL has a point. If it wasn't MIL some one else would have told that to either horny or cheesy couple to do holding at their own time.
MIL don't go out with them ?
MIL don't sleep in their room ?
Making connection openly is socially awkward in our culture. And as far I have seen in most cultures, guys don't like it any ways.
How many of have held hands with your SO in front of YOUR parents ????
I bet not too many.
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What does this even mean? 
Kiwi if you don't know what it means it is best that you don't
Monk- conversely how many ppl expect the wife to go to her parents home every weekend?
Btw, I hold begums hand in front of my parents, not like all the time but when I do it's not an issue. I have seen my parents hold hands off and on too. It's a little hidden, watching movies, on long drives etc, but it's all cool. And yeah they are very religious , haji, Regular prayers, kind gentle ppl, my mum wears hijab too. Now that they are both retired, they do Quran recitation together with the tafseer that is on TV, and they both cheat at ludo and snakes and ladders.
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What naan sense....
I don't think I can hold hand in-front of my family.
MIL has a point. If it wasn't MIL some one else would have told that to either horny or cheesy couple to do holding at their own time. MIL don't go out with them ? MIL don't sleep in their room ?
Making connection openly is socially awkward in our culture. And as far I have seen in most cultures, guys don't like it any ways.
How many of have held hands with your SO in front of YOUR parents ???? I bet not too many.
Thank you for being honest. Post more often!
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Monk,
Guys hold hands to show affection back home. I don't know if this happens still but it sure used to happen a lot. That wasn't considered socially awkward. Why is it awkward or inappropriate for a husband and wife to do so?
.....and frankly, not every part of our culture should be preserved.......some things we need to accept as wrong and change......isn't that what enlightenment and growth is all about?
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this was just great haha