Should Pakistan cede the FATA?

Should Pakistan cede the FATA? What benefit does it bring to Pakistan? The area is largely economically unproductive and yields very low tax returns. Is it really worth the lives of dozens of Pakistani jawaans?

If ceded, who to? Give the FATA to Hamid Karzai’s Afghanistan, or grant the FATA independence as a full nation in its own right?

vaaaaaaaaaaaaaat :eek:

how can u even put up sucha poll this being a pakistani site???

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Allah na karay :nook:

this poll should be deleted

the issue is not FATA. the issue is Amreeka. they’ll always find new ways to blackmail us. we just need to stand up to them.

No! The FATA is an integral part of the Islamic Republic and must be held no matter what!

No! The FATA is an integral part of the Islamic Republic and must be held no matter what!

This issue is not FATA or about Pashtunistan, because as we have seen the tribals are not averse to persecuting their own people, or bombing schools in Pashtun-majority NWFP. The issue is about foreign terrorists using Pakistani territory to attack not just other countries, but also the Pakistani army and NWFP.

FATA's going nowhere.

Fifty plus years have passed since Pakistan came into being. And while I respect the individuality and indepdendent spirit of the FATA people, it is about bloody time that everybody became Pakistani for a change.

We must get rid of these little groups that we divide and subdivide ourselves into. We're Pakistanis and that is all.

No FATA should not be just thrown away. FATA is the integral part of the Islamic republic of Pakistan. I agree that at the moment we are having some problems, but lets also not forget that most of the tribal leaders are actually helping the Pakistan army in the hunt for suspected terrorists.

FATA should go Ta Ta..

they are regionally and culturally more alligned with Afghanistan.. why do we want such a lawless backward thinking bunch in Pakistan?/ they don't fit.. let them loose or if they choose to be with us.. let it be on our terms this time with full military and civil control and none of that jirga crap.

Well, pakistan should keep Fata...but I dont agree with the phrase, no matter what...you cant keep people under your umbrella by terrorizing them...

Hmm lets not forget that the tribals fought for Pakistan when the Pakistan Army barely existed in 1947-1948. And don't even let me start on FATA people being used as cannon fodder for Pakistani policies in Kashmir and Afghanistan.

Also let's not kid ourselves anyone who thinks that those american "observers" are there to clean up the tribal areas has seriously lost the plot. Irrespective of what happens Mushys boss (which isn't the people of Pakistan :p ) will not be satsified with any operation in Pakistan unless they do it themselves. The rest of this treason discussion is a big joke...as well as the pakhtunistan option, the tribes have never supported the pakhtunistan option.

Not only should FATA be united with Pakistan, Afghanistan also needs to be part of a greater Islamic Republic!

Afghanistan + Pakistan = Greater Islamic Republic

FATA does not have a culture any different. It is Muslim dominated and on the principle of Islamic nationhood, it should be with us including Afghanistan. Now the only thing missing is vision and ghairat which is needed to stand up to a superpower on earth.

How different is NWFP’s culture from Afghanistan? Go check it out sometime instead of being abroad!

:mad2: Jirga crap??? Trust me it is much better than our judicial system. Atleast a case does not last years.

This poll is baseless!

oh yes.. i keep forgetting the imaginative punishments and condoning of honor killing of women by these jirgas and panchayats… much better than our judicial system :k:

You cannot generalize one or two incident of panchayats with the whole jirga system. Our judicial system sells cheap!

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FATA should go Ta Ta..

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Than with the same thinking, Punjab and more specifically Lahore should go ta ta...since they have very Hindu traditions!

I told you, this thread is baseless and must be closed. You are questioning the territorial integrity of Pakistan. I think a mod must be more sensible.

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*Originally posted by digitalsurgeon: *this poll is baseless, but on the same time, if the fata people don't want to be a part of pak, i guess nothing can b done then !
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My understanding is that the overwhelming majority of the population of the FATA hold no objection to being part of Pakistan - they don't believe their daily lives would be any different at all if part of Afghanistan instead. After all, Afghanistan is not Pakhtunistan, it is a multicultural land like Pakistan that includes Pashtuns as one ethnic group amongst many and they know it. The inhabitants of the FATA are not idiots, they are an intelligent, honourable people.

However, this poll has nothing to do with what the people of the FATA want - it's to do with what would be best for Pakistan's own interests.

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*Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad: *
FATA should go Ta Ta..

they are regionally and culturally more alligned with Afghanistan..

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I don't think that in itself is a valid point. Afghanistan isn't Pakhtunistan, Pakhtuns are admittedly the dominant (by demographics) ethnic group there, but are at the end of the day just one ethnic group amongst many in Afghanistan, just as they are in Pakistan.

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*Originally posted by Islamabad: *I told you, this thread is baseless and must be closed. You are questioning the territorial integrity of Pakistan. I think a mod must be more sensible.
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I find this quite interesting - a number of people here, yourself included, believe that it would be unacceptable for Pakistan to give territory even to another nation of Muslims? Could you confirm this?

I would definately vehemently oppose giving so much as an an inch of populated land of Pakistan to a non-Muslim state, but is it just as bad to cede land to another Muslim state?

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Not only should FATA be united with Pakistan, Afghanistan also needs to be part of a greater Islamic Republic!

Afghanistan + Pakistan = Greater Islamic Republic
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Side note, but the ISI brigadier (Mohammed Yousaf) who controlled the Afghan resistance proposed in his book "The Bear Trap" the theory that General Zia-ul-Haq was assassinated by the USA because he was privately beginning to promote a union of Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran into a single Islamic Republic once the Soviet Union was ejected from Afghanistan.

Consider how powerful a union of Pakistan (nuclear know-how, agriculture, advanced weapons facilities) + Afghanistan (strategic trade routes into Central Asia) + Iran (Oil, oil, and more oil) would be. Couple that with the creation of a balanced, cross sectarian 50% sunni, 50% Shia (by area) population, and you'd have the basis for one hell of a superpower. Oil, agriculture, and the definative trade route to central asia, all rolled into one nation with a powerful military and a strong Islamic ethos.....

Lets not go back into the pan-islamist trap that zia fell into. It won't happen, not because of any outside inteference, but becasue our honourable generals cannot except the authority of the majority in a functioning democracy.

^ A greater Islamic republic would be reality sooner or later inshaAllah. That would guarantee strength, prosperity and a nation that could stand up to challenges instead of licking boots of super powers on earth.

Exactly! Therefore people of great nations if have a vision work towards that vision and they achieve it (just as our fore fathers achieved Pakistan at all odds). This is the time to play our own agenda in the region in which people are mentally prepared to become part of a greater Islamic Republic instead of ceding territories to others.

As far as giving a region to a Muslim state is concerned, the concept itself is wrong. If you are giving away land on the basis of ethnicity that this was not what Pakistan was created for. Our ethnicity is Islam. Think about giving the whole country to a brotherly Muslim country and become one. Therefore your poll should have been:

** When would Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran merge into a greater Islamic Republic?

  1. Within 10 years
  2. Within 25 years
  3. Not possible
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Yes! Cede the FATA to Afghanistan

Not only FATA but the whole of Pashtun dominated areas. I dont know why people are trying to construct some sort of difference among us. we are all the same and we will remain so.

Mr. Islamabad i dont think there would be such country. first of all the foreign countries wouldnt let this happen and also the people would reject such inspiration. though it could happen through unity and there is none among MUSLIMS.