Do some cost benefit analysis. What is more important ... he being told about it or future life of child and married life of couple ??
All people who knows about it need a closure and for that they can talk to the lady. Ask her if she repent her actions and is fully dedicated to her new relationship. If she is positive about it than just cover her sins and God will cover your sins ... inshaAllah.
so many lives will be destroyed because of this.If you as a friend wantd to spill the beans, you should have said something BEFORE the Nikkah.Now its too late.Talk to the Girl and her sister...see if she is really remorseful or not. Ageh Allah Taleh knows best.
Completely agree. Just remember this situation is very complicated cuz of the other sisters marriage in the same family.
I believe the 4 witnesses only work if they are all men. Correct me if I'm wrong.
yes u are right. in hudood cases the witnesses should be men, muslim,adult and rigteous. and they should have seen the sin commited with their own eyes. and should all bear witness in the court at the same time/session.. if any of these conditions is missing, hadd punishment can not be imposed.
this is a very very strict criteria and almost impossible to meet. this is the sole reason that not a single person had been punished with hadd on witness in the period of the Holy Prophet (p.b.u.h).all the punishments had been based on confession
you need two witnesses for an event like this .. if men then two if women then four cos in islam .. two women are considered equal to one man in calibre..
:) so yeh
no this is the case for matters other than hudood e.g financial or family issues. for proving a hadd u have to have four witnesses, all of them should be men.
but even still this is terrible and these four ppl ..are also accountable in some way
I agree, these four ppl ( if every thing is real, as now u have created doubt in my mind about the existence of the situation, more likely a filmy one) have their equal share in this mess...
i heard abt this one man who got married to a "nice" girl and found out a few weeks into the marriage that she was pregnant from before their wedding. he did not keep it to himself, told the family and ended up getting divorced.
this is a very serious case that could ruin multiple lives. i believe it;s too late to tell him although he does have the right to know. but it's only gonna make a negative impact on the couple's relationship and the family.
Ummmmmmmmmmm...it also depends on who she cheated with? I mean, if the cheatee is someone with blonde hair and blue eyes then the girl has some explaining to do in the delivery room.
Cant blame everything on nature unless the husband is one to be easily fooled.
I know a girl who was engaged and her wedding date was set and all and she had this fling with this other guy b4 her wedding. Right b4 her wedding (like a day b4) she found out she was pregnant...and us close friends know that it was not her husbands baby cuz she told us the day of the nikkah....
Since she was pregnant at that time it looks (to everyone else including her husband) that it is her husbands baby and she doesnt want to tell anyone. She is pretending it is her husbands baby.
The only ppl who know are 3 of us friends.... and her sister who is also the other daughter in law of her house.
Should someone tell her husband? Doesnt he have the right to know?
Depends who is asking or dieing to tell the hubby or family of her hubby. If one of these people are dieing to tell someone then they should go in the jungle and tell the trees and animals of jungle.
If She is dieing to tell someone I guess she has already done that , how else four other people will know if she did not tell one or four of them.
She does not need to tell anybody , one of these four people in some way or the form will tell someone else and then that someone else will that someone else and eventually hubby and his family and neighbors and soon the whole village will find out.
The way I see it, she should have called off the wedding but thats spilt milk now yeah? Since she told a few people, her secret is a secret no more and it will come out eventually.
Its a very sad and potentially tragic situation. As a friend the best thing you can do is to tell her that her "secret" is going to be found out at one time or another so she should adjust and plan accordingly. Leave it to her to decide how she wants to handle it. But perhaps let her know that the real father of her child has a right to know about his child and her husband has every right to know that it isnt his.
The thing is, perhaps her marriage is happy. But her dark secret is known and will become known by more people over time. Does she want to let this thing fester or better to face it straight away. The way I see it, her very life could be in danger here so she needs to think very carefully about what to do and how to handle it.
The thing is, perhaps her marriage is happy. But her dark secret is known and will become known by more people over time. Does she want to let this thing fester or better to face it straight away.** The way I see it, her very life could be in danger here **so she needs to think very carefully about what to do and how to handle it.
You nailed it. This can be a bitter reality too. She and others around her who know have to be careful about all . This two lives are depending on this secret now.
yes u are right. in hudood cases the witnesses should be men, muslim,adult and rigteous. and t*hey should have seen the sin commited with their own eyes. and should all bear witness in the court at the same time/session.. **if any of these conditions is missing, hadd punishment can not be imposed.*
this is a very very strict criteria and almost impossible to meet. this is the sole reason that not a single person had been punished with hadd on witness in the period of the Holy Prophet (p.b.u.h).all the punishments had been based on confession
Yes, the witnesses need to have seen the actual penetration taking place. The conditions are v.strict.
The way I see it, she should have called off the wedding but thats spilt milk now yeah? Since she told a few people, her secret is a secret no more and it will come out eventually.
Its a very sad and potentially tragic situation. As a friend the best thing you can do is to tell her that her "secret" is going to be found out at one time or another so she should adjust and plan accordingly. Leave it to her to decide how she wants to handle it. But perhaps let her know that the real father of her child has a right to know about his child and her husband has every right to know that it isnt his.
The thing is, perhaps her marriage is happy. But her dark secret is known and will become known by more people over time. Does she want to let this thing fester or better to face it straight away. The way I see it, her very life could be in danger here so she needs to think very carefully about what to do and how to handle it.
Ummmmmmmmmmm...it also depends on who she cheated with? I mean, if the cheatee is someone with blonde hair and blue eyes then the girl has some explaining to do in the delivery room.
Cant blame everything on nature unless the husband is one to be easily fooled.
^Uh no i think in this case the woman is totally to blame. Sheesh!
Of course she is to blame. I meant that she might be able to fool her husband about the time of conception by blaming it on nature but not other things like the baby's features and whatnot.
^ Yep, of course. I imagine a lot of women would have an abortion if they're worried about paternity issues, obviously not right but they're too scared to deal with the situation and with non-desis (and some desis) it's far easier to tell what with different hair and eye colours (I know it's not definitive proof but it often leads father to doubt and then ask for dna test). Also, imagine child or father gets ill and they get tested and it comes out later they don't share genes.
Does the baby's real father know? I kinda feel he has the right but then again as others have pointed out it's a very sticky situation. Is she definately sure that hubby isn't the father? I mean she may have slept with 2 of them within a short time frame. So many questions....
I know a girl who was engaged and her wedding date was set and all and she had this fling with this other guy b4 her wedding. Right b4 her wedding (like a day b4) she found out she was pregnant...and us close friends know that it was not her husbands baby cuz she told us the day of the nikkah....
Since she was pregnant at that time it looks (to everyone else including her husband) that it is her husbands baby and she doesnt want to tell anyone. She is pretending it is her husbands baby.
The only ppl who know are 3 of us friends.... and her sister who is also the other daughter in law of her house.
Should someone tell her husband? Doesnt he have the right to know?
OH MY EFin Gosh.
I am back to virgin only mode!!!!!!!
holy shyttttt
Let me guess what must have happend to your friend. she was obsessed whit he Ex.(idiot)
Ex didn't give Shyt!!!!!!
1-He(idiot) did your frind just b4 wedding
2-did with out protection.
3-didn;t find you frind good enough to marry.
But girl wanted his baby any ways, Because sucker(hubby) who is willing to provide girl for rest of her life is just not good enogh for the the girl.
So pretty much she wanted to have idiots baby.
You know Sucker should back off!!!!!!
girl and idiot deserve each other.
At the end of the day. He might accept this woman and the baby, there is no dearth of good people in this world. But only if she comes out clean and be honest and open to him . In desi community this is a big sin and big no no, so nobody knows how things are going to unfold in case she tell him or he finds out some how. But hiding it is not a good option. He will come to know specially when four other people know. People in the know will keep multiplying that I am sure of.