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Fitness is a fact. Either he is or he is not. The player and doctors there would know better than you and me sitting thousands of miles away, reading second-hand news paper reports and biased in our opinions. So lets leave it at that. If he is really fit, we'll find out soon enough.

Coming to the more subjective question of whether he is 'committed to give his 100% to the team as a team-player'.. that is something which can only be demonstrated with a chance and given time. I am sure he'd claim that he'll give his 100% and will not ruin the team discipline any more. Take him on the tour, give him the ball and see him perform. If he delivers, he's proven himself. If he doesn't, kick him out. This time for good. Talent or no talent.

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Fitness is a fact. Either he is or he is not. The player and doctors there would know better than you and me sitting thousands of miles away, reading second-hand news paper reports and biased in our opinions. So lets leave it at that. If he is really fit, we’ll find out soon enough.

Coming to the more subjective question of whether he is ‘committed to give his 100% to the team as a team-player’.. that is something which can only be demonstrated with a chance and given time. I am sure he’d claim that he’ll give his 100% and will not ruin the team discipline any more. Take him on the tour, give him the ball and see him perform. If he delivers, he’s proven himself. If he doesn’t, **kick him out. This time for good. Talent or no talent./**QUOTE]
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Thus my thread !
Its been done already Faisal.
I know how this PCB setup works now, May be ,just may be, he might be called upon at some point in far future ,if hes still playing then,like Arshad khan was for Indian tour,
Adhoc every thing is Adhoc,:smack2:

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i think Shuaib doesn deserve another chance....he is proud and all that crap....but as far i can see he is trying to show his commitment by playing domestic matches and even in all 20 20s... he is definatly a bowler of world class and shouldnt be brushed aside like this....PCB should give him one fair chance....but lets seee PCB kee batein PCB janay ......

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We have been through these milestones quite often in the past. beating india in India was no true dream compare to Imran’s ‘Beating Australia in Australia’ England in England and India in India.
It might we ‘History making event’ for Bangladesh but not for Pakistan,
There is no harm to use that Snooty icon here for Pakistan,India ! what India ?

The present win have been signeficant YES! but overratted in a sense that we are still in the building mode and not finished with the job yet.

These players are embarking on another mission soon. Stop the partying and move forward,Thats what I’m say’in through my smokey head.
Opps , too late , I guess we already have a ‘broken arrow’ Shoaib Malik,

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what ever the stories are … I wont believe till the (16) TOUR party is announced, and that S. Malik fiasco. well dont forget its still a young team. I still say Akther still gotta chance :k:

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I don't believe if PCB officials are saying that shoaib is unfit, first of all you can't believe the crap coming out of PCB. I guess it will be clear on sunday when he will give his fitness test. It will be really disappointing if PCB and Inzi decides not to pick him because of their personal grudge. We have seen that inzi is growing as a captain, I guess this is also a big test of his character as a leader. Keep his personal problems aside and give the man a chance or atleast support him. You can't have a full merit side if you bring your probelms with certain players in between. Wasim and waqar also had big ego's and didn't like each other on the field or off the field but still they manage to play together for a long time. It's a very lame excuse to keep dropping a player because of his discipline. Discipline is no doubt very important but there are ways to control a person while keeping him in the side. Keeping him outside the side to control his discipline is not the only way. Warne is also a spoiled brat but ACB never drop shane warne to control his discipline, why???? becozz he is a match winner.

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Faisal Bhai,

I could have never said it any better, yes Alhomdolillah, atleast someone sees things the way I do, yes yes yes give him and not only him, but for that matter any deserving player a chance but the keyword is “a” chance, with the understanding (which I am sure) he realises now that he can and will be disposed off if not deserving a spot on the National Team.

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Yes, Shoaib at Centurion it was the team that let us down it was the team that bowled two wide bowls and then got its azz whoped all over the place… what an idiot.

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Just wait and see

i'm quite sure with sami out OUT ..... Shoaib + Shabbir + Rana + Razzaq + Rao will be the seamers for the WI-Tour ...... mark my words ...... Shoaib will have to do what he always has done ...... bowling with speed while Shabbir and Rana will be there to contain and take wickets .......

I'm no Shoaib fan but mark my words ...... it'll be this way PPL

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salim altaf seems like a guy hwo doesent play and he is director cricket operations in pcb, so he will have a up and close look at shoaib, my bro sae the 20 20 game and he said shoaib is FAT! so lets see what happens, if he is fit you have 2 select him!

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reading all the replies in this thread - its far... faaaar from "end" :)

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Waqar not in favour of picking overweight Shoaib

By our correspondent

KARACHI: Former Pakistan captain Waqar Younis on Friday advised the national selectors not to pick fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar for the coming West Indies tour warning it could damage the fiery paceman’s career.

"Look he’s not 100 per cent fit’ he has clearly put on weight and if he plays at the international level in this condition he is risking chances of damaging his hamstring or groin as his legs would have to carry all the weight while bowling," Waqar, himself a world-class fast bowler, said.

He made it clear he was not concerned with the issue of Shoaib’s attitude or the problems he had with the team management. "I’m basically talking about his fitness; my advice is that he should skip the West Indies tour, train hard, shed a few pounds, go and play county cricket and then come back to Pakistan cricket," he added.

"There is no doubt he is a match winner for Pakistan but unless he pays attention to his fitness he’ll always face problems which is not good for him or the team," Waqar noted.

The national selectors are due to meet on Monday to pick the team for the West Indies tour on which they play three one-dayers besides two Tests.

Waqar also appreciated the decision of the PCB to extend Inzamam-ul-Haq’s captaincy tenure for one year.

"It’s a wise decision because I’m happy with the way he (Inzamam) has matured as a captain and it’s clear the boys are supporting him in every manner. By appointing him for one year the PCB has given Inzamam more chance to learn the art of captaincy and this means Pakistan will benefit in the next World Cup," the former fast-bowling sensation expressed.

He was all praise for the performance of the team in India stating they had done wonderfully well in tough conditions.

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Waqar the has-been has a problem of running his mouth unneccesarily at times. Anyways, don’t call for Shoaib when Lara goes beserk! You will have pie throwers like Shabbir and Sami to the rescue :rotfl:

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And you said similar thing before Indian tour as well :rolleyes: didn’t you get enough lesson yet?

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No :smiley: , because no Indian batsman is as good as Lara :rotfl:!

Its official: Akhtar not to go to WI/Likely squad

I am so sad after this news:

**Not satisfied with the fitness level of fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar, Pakistan cricket selectors have decided to rest him for next month’s West Indies tour while including former captain Moin Khan in a 17-member squad, which would be officially announced on Monday.

Selectors also left out unfit paceman Mohammad Sami and included another seamer Shabbir Ahmed in the squad which was finalised on Friday evening.

The list of players has been submitted to Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Shaharyar Khan, who will announce the squad after getting clearance from an ad-hoc committee, PCB spokesman said.

The ad-hoc committee, as per PCB constitution, has the powers to make changes in the team.

The selectors have also dropped Mohammad Hafeez who toured India earlier this month as a one-day specialist. He has been replaced by Yasir Hameed who was dropped after the Bangalore Test for the six-match one-day series.

The Pakistan team has been selected basically for the one-day matches to be played on May 18 at St Vincent and for the double-header on May 21 and 22 at St Lucia’s.

If required, changes would be made in the team for the two Tests to be played between May 26 and 30 at Barbados and between June 3 and 7 at Jamaica.

Shoaib and Sami have been overlooked purely on medical grounds.

PCB’s panel of doctors, in a report submitted to the selectors, have observed that Shoaib requires more time to regain fitness.

The report further says that the world’s fastest bowler is on a heavier side and needs to reduce his weight considerably to protect himself from further injuries.

As regards Sami, he underwent surgery for the removal of corn in his right heel on Monday. He is steadily recovering but his stitches would be removed later next week.

He is likely to join the team for the Test matches along with uncapped opener Bazid Khan, son of former captain Majid Khan and nephew of former captains Javed Burki and Imran Khan.

Shabbir has been included after he received a clean bill of health from PCB panel of doctors. Shabbir last played for Pakistan in August before he broke down with knee injuries that were treated in South Africa.

He appeared in two domestic limited overs matches and then participated in the ongoing Twenty-20 Cup to further convince the selectors about his fitness.

Moin has been recalled purely on his domestic performance. The gutsy 33-year-old wicketkeeper, who has probably made most comebacks than any other cricketer in a 15-year career, is in terrific form this season and has aggregated 730 first-class runs this season, including three centuries. He also stroked two centuries in domestic one-day tournament besides a century in the Twenty-20 Cup. **

Likely squad: Inzamam-ul-Haq (captain), Younis Khan, Yasir Hameed, Salman Butt, Shahid Afridi, Yousuf Youhana, Asim Kamal, Moin Khan, Kamran Akmal, Abdul Razzaq, Rana Naved-ul-Hasan, Shabbir Ahmed, Shahid Nazir, Rao Iftikhar Anjum, Shoaib Malik, Arshad Khan and Danish Kaneria.

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Who here said shoaib was fit as a fiddle? LMAO. Anyone seen him in action in the Twenty20 cup? His stomach reaches the crease before he does. He gets a break to get fit and what does he do? Puts on 10 kg. Great. He got what he deserved.

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I bet you they declared him unfit before even checking his fitness. Inzi maulana strikes again with his antics! I knew he would be the only factor that would come In Shoaib's way to be included in the side, and that is exactly what happened. That meeting between Inzi and selectors decided everything.

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I would rather see an average team without Akhtar that plays with unitly than a super-dooper team that plays individually when Akhtar is there.

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bhaiooo I don't think team has been announced yet. Although there is a chance that shoaib and gul wont be picked but still they have their fitness test on sunday. Malik case hasn't been decided yet. The likely team which cricinfo has reported has 2 keepers which is not possible (although i would luv to see moin back in the squad). Another website has said that bazid khan will join the squad from england, but again there is no mention in cricinfo report, however it is likely that he will be picked in the squad eventually. No news channel has givn this news yet. Its not on jang website who are usually the first to report such news. The only latest report they have is on robbery at sami's place in karachi.So i dont think the cricinfo report is credible atleast at this stage. It is likely that they are mixing this squad with sheikh zyad cup squad which i guess have both moin and akmal. We have to wait for an official announcement by PCB regarding the 2 fast bowlers fast status on sunday and then team announcement on monday.