Shoaib Akhter - Dilemma ends (Merged)

Shoaib is out of the contention now! That ends the speculative dilema of the player’s fate.

A mistake indeed! on part of the PCB’s selection com’mtee and Inzimam.
If they cannot handle a player like ‘Shoaib Akhter’ then I guess they are looking for ‘Easy’ tasks and no challanges to the ‘leadership’ role.

The way the palyers are being ‘nawazed’ as if they brought home the ‘World cup’ is
a matter of too much ‘hangover’ for many days to come.

Its ok to a certain level, but this is overwhelming and the indian tour win is an overrated episode which should have been sealed and stowed.

Good luck!!
Pakistan zindaBad - baqi sab es kaybaD :jhanda:

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source?

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have a look at the following quotation (nothing new):

“In the last few series I have been expected to make the team win. The other ten players don’t do anything. I am made the scapegoat each time. My discipline and my performance are questioned. It’s a specific lobby that is doing this. I think that if we are playing for the country then the entire team should do their bit.” by our very own shoaib akhtar." [source]](pcboard.com.pk)

yada yada .. makes you think he comes to a perfect ending, sadly enough. I honestly think the more humiliation the better.

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What a weasle. If I was him I would take it as an honor to be depended upon for winning. Whereas he sees it as a burden. Serves him right. Now the 'other ten' will do it without him and do it very well.

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Jang news April 29.05 Fri. & ARY news bulletin

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Shoaib Akhtar and Umar Gul are both considered match unfit for WI tour. They will be further tested for fitness on Sunday.

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ditto

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Shabbir Ahmed however has been deemed fit :k:

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yar i simply dont know what to believe and what not to believe:mad: …Check this out


Shabbir, Umar Gul cleared to play competitive cricket

*By Waheed Khan

*KARACHI: Pacer bowlers Shabbir Ahmed and Umar Gul have been cleared by specialists on Thursday to be considered for selection for the West Indies tour. According to sources in the Board, Dr Wajid and Professor Owais, who is an honorary consultant of the board, examined both the bowlers in Lahore on Thursday and then gave their reports that both were fit and could return to play in competitive cricket.

Shabbir and Gul resumed playing only recently and are appearing in the Twenty20 Cup in Lahore after remaining on the sidelines because of injuries since last year.

While Shabbir suffered from a knee injury and had surgery for it, Gul was diagnosed two stress fractures in his back. Both the bowlers were sent to South Africa by the Board to get specialist opinions.

The sources said that the specialists on Thursday had given them a clean bill after examining the two bowlers very closely but also pointed out that the selectors might still want to clear any doubts over their ability to bowl long spells after returning from such a long layoff from competitive cricket.

Sources said Dr Wajid who performed the heel surgery on Muhammad Sami two days back in Karachi had also given a summary on the fast bowler’s condition in writing to the board.

“The summary has been dispatched to chief selector Wasim Bari as Sami has been given atleast three weeks rest before he start training and bowling again,” one source said.

Ironically, fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar who is also playing in the Twenty 20 Cup after recovering from a hamstring injury, was not available for examination on Thursday.

The source said the Board had on Thursday also obtained fresh reports from the South African trainer Grant Compton who supervised the rehabilitation process of Shabbir, Gul and Shoaib in Lahore in recent weeks.

“Compton’s report has also been given to the selectors so that they face no difficulty in taking any decision,” he added.

http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/index.html

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^ :smack:

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:bukbuk: :bukbuk: :bukbuk:

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I am not sure I understand the fury here. So are you saying that either:

  1. All the doctors who examined him are conspiring against the great superstar, and declaring him unfit, even though he is fit?

  2. Or that the doctors are morons and don't know what they are doing?

  3. Or that the PCB is deliberately cooking up doctor reports to keep Shoaib away?

  4. Or that even if Shoaib is not fully 'match fit', he should be taken to West Indies anyway, because, as we were told yesterday, even if he bowls four overs per spell, it will "terrorize" the opposing team (and since we want Shoaib to 'single-handedly' win us the matches, this is as good an opportunity as any)

Pls clarify in simple words, so we are not guessing in the dark, and can respond appropriately. Thank you.

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Shoaib Akhter played for Oindi Rams...I hate saying this, but this guy has put on an amazing amount of weight...He is FAT...Forget injuries dude's, this guy nees to lose a quite a few kilo's...he aint goin anywhere but the lassi shop...

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Raindance my friend what have you been smoking? Overrated? Dude they were expected to lose 3-0 and 6-0!! And they came out 1-1 and 2-4!!! You call this overrated? They shook off and brought down to knees one of the worlds best batting lineups.. overrated eh?

Youre making it sound as if beating India in India is as easy as beating Namibia.

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^ I don't want to undermine our achievements in India.... but Indian team "ranking" just shows what they are, really... its not "second best".

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Inna lillahe waa inna ilayehe rajioon!!!

I will repeat it again, IF he is really match fit, he MUST go with the team. With Sami and Umer Gul out, and Shabbir needs time to get back in rythem, it would be injustice to drop Akhtar. To team and to his own career. I say, give him another chance and if Salim Altaf see any sign of his attitude, he should be kicked out forever. And I am serious, forever. He should be told that before taking him to WI so he would know what he needs to do. Play cricket and maintain decipline. I know its hard, but if can't do it, he will shoot in his own feet. Its his choice, simply.

But if he is not fit, he should not insist on his fitness. He should rest as England tour is ahead and he will have enough time to play county and make money.

Rana and Shabbir will need another bowling partner. Rao will be the only choice in this case, he is not bad at all.

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Faisal bro,

Let get some facts right about PCB and the selection comm’ttee.

Its would not be the 1st time had they taken a ‘recovering’ player on an important tour.
It has been a while since PCB and pros discovered the “New Ploy” of telling the Media of a players condition using the ‘Injury Card’ instead of coming out with penalizing details and investigation results. (forget that as well also)

They just don’t want some one to think/act/behave above their heads as that would be the sin of the century. (National Hockey mentality seeping through day by day)

Yes! I do refuse to accept that the whole setup of team selection is transparent as they claim.
And yes! I do believe that Bari & Salu shoud be stripped of their marathon duties,

Shoaib akhter despite his Idiotic/pathetic/immoral ways of living his ****ty life is tall and above the quality players you have in your kitty bag right now.

I have NO PROBLEM with any one calling him names or what not, this is becoming irrelevant by the day,

FOR GOD SAKE, stop quoting OLD QOUTES on the News and Interviews,
Wouldn’t it be just enough to bury this skeleton once and for all?

I have!! :rolleyes::k:
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All of them seem like opinions rather than facts. Which is fine, but lets not mix both.

Ofcourse, it happened in the past, and personally I believe this is a bad policy. The team doesn’t get a fully fit player, and the player may aggrevate his injury to cause more long term damage. Its a lose-lose.

I am not sure I understand any of it. Either Shoaib is fully fit, or he is not fully fit. You seem to suggest that he is fully fit, and the management doesn’t want him to tour with the team so they are coming in with false claims about his unfitness. Is there anything to back up this claim, except a personal conjecture?

Transparency is good. But what is even better, and wanted, is to select 15 of our most talented players available, who are fully fit, and who can take the rigours of a difficult tour.

No one here will be willing to go out on a limb to defend Bari, so its a moot point.

Actually I don’t worry about his idiotic/pathetic/immoral ways of living his ****ty life. I doubt if anyone else here does either. If he is fit, and is committed to give his 100% to the team as a team player, he should be in. But if either of these two ingredients is missing, he should not be in the team. His partying, and his other night activities are irrelevant for this discussion.

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But who should decide this ?
I see a loop here going in circles,
To me it sounds like a “Core criminal being set out on parole” who passed this sentence on him,?
None of the names mentioned in the news circles are from the medical field or the experts to determine / see the fitness of any thing,

Is there’s a ‘silver bullet’ solutions or gurantees to suggest hat a supper fit player can not / will not get injured / rip a hamstring while on tour ??? if some one does,then comm’ttee should resign ?

This is discremination and an un-announced ‘Life Sentence’ to a quality player.
Shoaib is fit as a fiddle, but not in the eyes of the messed up heads in PCB cum Hockey selection paindoos. :rolleyes: