Mehman kambakhat sar per charha chala aa raha hay aur yee ullu-k-pathey (PCB) mehman nawazi main lagey howey hain. Aur kia karain Mehman nawazi main, Jaan dai deen kia ? ![]()
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*Originally posted by ehsan: *
I am not sure but think he can play so long as the appeal is pending.
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I dont think so, if the appeal is pending, the player cannot play...
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I dont think so, if the appeal is pending, the player cannot play...
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I read it somewhere, but it is all academic now.
hmm is shoaib fit to play the next test? I mean if hes unfit, hes gonna miss it anywayz, despite the ban?
We’re not in the playground now
Wisden Comment by Kamran Abbasi
October 22, 2003
Why did South Africa do it? What was Graeme Smith thinking? Has Paul Adams never been sworn at before? Shoaib Akhtar is a naughty boy, for sure, but spitting two familiar swear-words at South Africa’s quirky spinner hardly constituted a capital offence. There can be few cricketers – professional or amateur – who have not reserved their choicest Shakespearean prose for an opponent.
And there can be few cricketers who have been personally wounded by a couple of common-or-garden swear-words, the kind of language you could hear in any playground in the English-speaking world – and I mean little children here. Picture the scene:
“Please Mr Lloyd, that boy with the girl’s eyes, floppy hair, and bendy joints called my friend an f*$%ing twat, can you please ban him from the playground for a week or I’ll tell my mummy?”
“Did he hit Paul?”
“No.”
“Did he spit at him?”
“No, sir.”
“Did he mean it?”
“I don’t think so, but those bulging eyes frighten us.”
“Have you ever sworn at him?”
“Not really, sir, but some of my friends have said that, and worse, to him before.”
“How did he react to that?”
“He just laughed at us sir, which made us very cross. It’s not fair sir, he’s supposed to look up to us.”
“I’ve heard enough, Graeme. I know what it’s like in the playground, people swear at each other all the time; they even did it my day. Oh, the things my friend Viv used to say. There was a time people just accepted it as part of playing, part of growing up. I think they still should, after all, I am the man who once said that what happens in the middle should stay out in the middle. But as you’ve asked especially nicely – and I know you and your friends didn’t really want to be at this school in the first place – I’ll suspend Shoaib for seven full days. How about that? Anyway, these curries day and night are wreaking havoc with my constitution, and that Aleem Dar has the stinkiest feet.”
Agreed, this would never happen. What’s absurd for children is preposterous for international cricketers participating in a gladiatorial contest, where the battle is tough and emotions run high.
We don’t want our cricketers to be softies. We don’t want our fast bowlers to smile pleasantly at batsmen and enquire: “Are you all right old chap?” Cricket was a gentleman’s game – and it still is, except that gentlemen have changed.
We don’t mind a bit of swearing in the heat of battle: we love the intense emotion of it all. We don’t want physical contact (Andrew Hall). We don’t want a captain to support bad behaviour (Graeme Smith). We don’t want a batsman poking his bat in people’s faces (Yousuf Youhana). But we do want our heroes to be real people who feel anger, frustration, joy, and ennui. We don’t want a sport sanitised by bureaucrats with more time on their hands than common sense in their heads.
Graeme Smith is a fine batsman and a smooth communicator, but he is in danger of leading South Africa down the road to nowhere. Fearless leadership has graced the greatest teams of our time. Clive Lloyd, Viv Richards, Mark Taylor and Steve Waugh never flinched in the face of their sternest adversaries, accepted the toughest challenges with a lick of their lips, and never offered an excuse for failure, just responded with resolve. For Pakistan, Imran Khan was hewn from the same rock, and for South Africa, Hansie Cronje was too before he chose the smell of leather jackets over the sound of leather on bat.
For a team ranked second in the world, South Africa have been found wanting on this tour. Their middle order lacks the grit of Cronje and the bounce of Jonty Rhodes. Their bowling misses the venom of Allan Donald, and even the guile of Pat Symcox. Their team is troubled by genuine pace and tortured by legspin. It is a young team, like Pakistan’s, and this tour is an important learning experience. But Australia and England know that to win in Asia you have to embrace Asia. South Africa, with their initial reluctance to tour and now their silly complaint against Shoaib, are barely embracing the norms of international cricket, let alone the added challenges of the Asian experience.
South Africa spent much of the one-day series spitting venom at Pakistan’s players. Andre Nel and Andrew Hall particularly enjoyed themselves, tempting Pakistan’s players into indiscretions into the bargain. But Pakistan, like any other international team – other than South Africa, apparently – accepted it as part of the rules of engagement.
Ironically, by complaining about Shoaib, South Africa gagged their own players, rendering their own attack virtually impotent. That, as much as Pakistan’s excellence and South Africa’s other failings, cost Smith’s side the first Test.
This silliness cannot continue. We need Richie Benaud’s wisdom to restore some sanity, reset the benchmark, and allow us a fitting, highly charged conclusion to this exciting (if badly behaved) little tour, which everyone who has seen it has cherished every minute of.
http://www-usa.cricket.org/db/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2003/OCT/375736_PAKRSA2003-04_22OCT2003.html
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hmm is shoaib fit to play the next test? I mean if hes unfit, hes gonna miss it anywayz, despite the ban?
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He is fit, he had a little strain.
But what the ****, I am so pissed rightnow.
I am supportive of all bans that punish players for unsportsmans like conduct. It's a game not their khala ka ghar, where they can get away with any/all galli galoch.
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I am supportive of all bans that punish players for unsportsmans like conduct. It's a game not their *khala ka ghar, where they can get away with any/all galli galoch.
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OK then Pir Sahib, then ban the other player as well. Why are they playing a game of Pick & Choose.
This is hypocricy @ its best.
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I am supportive of all bans that punish players for unsportsmans like conduct. It's a game not their *khala ka ghar, where they can get away with any/all galli galoch.
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AJ, this time Mr. Controversial wasn't at fault but found guilty ....duh!
pussies sitting in PCB can’t do anything, despite having mani as president of ICC. what a shame. ![]()
I never really expected ICC to reverse its decision. i wanted them to, but common sense told me they wouldn't. To believe in PCB's baloney that they had a strong case was to set yourself up for a big disappointment. And that is exactly what has happened with some of the members here. No use sending emails to ICC now. I can assure you the next time a Pakistani player is reported for sledging, a similar action will be taken, notwithstanding all the hate mail.
damn south africans…cowards…v seriously should do sumthing abt it…petition maybe??![]()
man this Kamran dude is just too cool!!
What Kamran dude? You mean Kamran Akmal? Whats so cool about him? ![]()
he wrote that article (on cricket.org) ...didn't he??i like the way he thinks..its cool!
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*Originally posted by Maryah: *
he wrote that article (on cricket.org) ...didn't
he??i like the way he thinks..its cool!
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ahh..i see. i thought you were talking about the wicket keeper Kamran Akmal.
The ICC is such a bunch of dumbasses. If you suspended guys for swearing, no one would play any sport in this world except chess and figure skating. What a joke.
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*Originally posted by elahi: *
The ICC is such a bunch of dumbasses. If you suspended guys for swearing, no one would play any sport in this world except chess and figure skating. What a joke.
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Yeah, and these jokers are trying to expand cricket to USA.
Good luck!
I think the perfect revenge will be to beat SA in the second Test Match..to prove to them that we can win without Shoaib!
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I am supportive of all bans that punish players for unsportsmans like conduct. It's a game not their *khala ka ghar, where they can get away with any/all galli galoch.
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oh come on! If all that happened was he said the f-word, you ban him? That's insane. Why do they start the crack-down now? bizarre