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*Originally posted by ThandyMazaq: *
yes mazar and mannat food are a big no no. they are haram foods which must be avoided at all costs.
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That is according to Wahabi Maslak that falls under Ehle-Shariah.
However Ehle-Tareeka's maslak allows to visit mazars and eat food distributed over there.
If your Maslak doesn't allow visiting mazars, that's fine. Don't be a terrorists against other Maslaks.
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*Originally posted by antiobl: *
That is according to Wahabi Maslak that falls under Ehle-Shariah.
However Ehle-Tareeka's maslak allows to visit mazars and eat food distributed over there.
If your Maslak doesn't allow visiting mazars, that's fine. Don't be a terrorists against other Maslaks.
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First of all , do not create this tafarqa baazi. We are all Muslims. There is no wahabi or any such thing here. We are no barelvis, wahabis, or shias or sunnis.... WE ARE MUSLIMS !!!! Understand!
WHoever allows whatever , must prove it through Quran and HAdith...which is the light and guidance.
Anything of our own invention leads us estray. So besides the tafarqa baazi you are doing, you are also saying that "Don't be a terrorist against Maslaks"...
What maslak did we talk here. Plain Quran and Sunnah is quoted...Read above. Sheikh Munajjad has no value near me. I would respect him just for the fact that he has elaborated deen - Quran and Sunnah. Nothing of his own. When he dies I won't ask him, nor will we go to his grave. He dies and his chapter closes. He is a human being like you and me, and we ask only Allah
May Allah guide the people who create fitnah and division amongst Muslims.
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*Originally posted by Islamabad: *
First of all , do not create this tafarqa baazi. We are all Muslims. There is no wahabi or any such thing here. We are no barelvis, wahabis, or shias or sunnis.... WE ARE MUSLIMS !!!! Understand!
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It is fine with me if you want to burry your head in sand, chappar, or mud, or wheatever.
Maslaks are a reality and you can't deny the fact. How many times have you gone to say prayers in a Shia mosque.
WE ARE MUSLIMS is just a slogan of Mullah-Tullah Aya-Tullahs. Reality my friend doesn't exist in your world.
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*Originally posted by antiobl: *
It is fine with me if you want to burry your head in sand, chappar, or mud, or wheatever.
Maslaks are a reality and you can't deny the fact. How many times have you gone to say prayers in a Shia mosque.
WE ARE MUSLIMS is just a slogan of Mullah-Tullah Aya-Tullahs. Reality my friend doesn't exist in your world.
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For your info....I have prayed mnay times in a mosque in which shia brothers pray.
Reality my friend is what we make reality. Tafarqa is created ...it does not become a reality by itself. You yourself brought this issue up, wheras nobody was talking of maslak.
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*Originally posted by Islamabad: *
....I have prayed mnay times in a mosque in which shia brothers pray.
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Why not all the times? Because Shia Maslak is different from yours.
Maslak or "School of thought" can be different. Ehle-Tareeka do allow visiting Mazars. Baba Farid, and Data Ji are just two examples. However I respect your "School of thought" that doesn't allow the same.
Live and let live man!
Folks... just state your opinions and move on. No need to poke fun/insults at other faiths, as that will violate the Moratorium.
You know you are all right. :)
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*Originally posted by MyStiCaL_MisS: *
Shirk is a one of the major sins, which Allah does not forgive.
But inshallah may he forgive us all if we are in it unknowingly, and guide us all. amin.
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This statement is contradicting on its own.
Allah does not forgive (1)
but inshaAllah may he forgive us all if we are in it unknwingly(2)
means if you are doing it knowingly he will never forgive even if you do Touba am i right?
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*Originally posted by meeni: *
things r clearing up in my head now, just 1 thing though.... we can only give darood on our Prophet's name(PBUH) and should'nt eat any foods from mazaars or mannat foods...yes?
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(1) not simply his name but on him(PBUH&HA)
(2) not only on prophet but on his Aaal also.. otherwise our Darood will be considered half.. and that is forbiden. and that person is Bakheel
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*Originally posted by Islamabad: *
For your info....I have prayed mnay times in a mosque in which shia brothers pray.
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Appreciable and example all of us
Shiekh Abdul Qadir Jilani in his book Ghuniyat-ul-Talibeen on page 430 (urdu edition):
Hamza bin Ziyarat narrated that he saw Rasulallah (saww) and Hz. Ibrahim (as) in his dream. Both prophets were praying on/at the grave of Hussain (as).
Scanned Page page 430 - first two lines of last paragraph.
According to both Shia and Sunni Ulema, The dream in which you see Rasulallah (saww) could never be false. And the state in which you see Rasulallah (saww) is also true.
Source of the Hadith..please… Sahih? Hassan?..Daeef???
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According to both Shia and Sunni Ulema, The dream in which you see Rasulallah (saww) could never be false. And the state in which you see Rasulallah (saww) is also true.
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Utter BS. Which "Sunni" ulema are you talking about? And whats the proof for this? Have you ever seen RasoolUllah that you'd know on a glance that what you're seeing is true?
totally off topic.. but this is somethign funny
friends of my relos had gone for Umrah and one of the elders got ill, so they call back home (Pakistan) and asked their relos in pak to go to a saints (forgot his name.. its the most famous one there the who travelled from turkey).. so they asked their relos to go to his mazaar and make dua :halo:
whats become of faith.. mazak banadiya hai
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*Originally posted by Islamabad: *
First of all , do not create this tafarqa baazi. We are all Muslims. There is no wahabi or any such thing here. We are no barelvis, wahabis, or shias or sunnis.... WE ARE MUSLIMS !!!! Understand!
WHoever allows whatever , must prove it through Quran and HAdith...which is the light and guidance.
Anything of our own invention leads us estray. So besides the tafarqa baazi you are doing, you are also saying that "Don't be a terrorist against Maslaks"...
What maslak did we talk here. Plain, Quran and Sunnah is quoted...Read above. Sheikh Munajjad has no value near me. I would respect him just for the fact that he has elaborated deen - Quran and Sunnah. Nothing of his own. When he dies I won't ask him, nor will we go to his grave. He dies and his chapter closes. He is a human being like you and me, and we ask only Allah
May Allah guide the people who create fitnah and division amongst Muslims.
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Jazak Allah
same happend with one of my friends; but he went to the doctor. some people said its shirk.
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*Originally posted by Islamabad: *
Source of the Hadith..please.... Sahih? Hassan?...Daeef???
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Dear Islamabad,
I provided you with the reference and the book title written by "Ghos-e-Azim, Shiekh Abdul Qadir Jelani - Badree Geyarahwee Shareef Waley". Millions of muslims follow his teachings and celebrate his urs. Please consult your nearest Brelvi Alim for more details.
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*Originally posted by zer01: *
Dear Islamabad,
I provided you with the reference and the book title written by "Ghos-e-Azim, Shiekh Abdul Qadir Jelani - Badree Geyarahwee Shareef Waley". Millions of muslims follow his teachings and celebrate his urs. Please consult your nearest Brelvi Alim for more details.
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calling any person ghos e azam, or data gang baksh is shirk, because only allah can be ghos e azam or ghang baksh and may allah save us from this evil act. ameen
Although I dont follow Sheikh Abdul Qadir, but any reference to back the above statement??
BTW you just declared milions of mulsim mushrik. 
may Allah (swt) save us from such evil act.
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*Originally posted by zer01: *
Dear Islamabad,
I provided you with the reference and the book title written by "Ghos-e-Azim, Shiekh Abdul Qadir Jelani - Badree Geyarahwee Shareef Waley". Millions of muslims follow his teachings and celebrate his urs. Please consult your nearest Brelvi Alim for more details.
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Mr. Zero1, all i asked was a simple source, the narrators or the Hadith. This is what differntiates us Muslims from the Christians and Jews. For guidance they consult their popes and priets in a way as if they they receive wahi, revelation from Allah.
For a Hadith to be right, we have to test it on some criteria. WHo narrated it, who are the chain of narrators, has it been classified Sahih or not?
Please go back to that book you quoted and check again, maybe the source of hadith is written there. If not, than the hadith is either fabricated or there is some omission. I asked for the raavi, the narrators and the classification of hadith, not the name of book. We do not go by the names of books, we go by the narrators. I hope you understand.
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*Originally posted by meeni: *
things r clearing up in my head now, just 1 thing though.... we can only give darood on our Prophet's name(PBUH) and should'nt eat any foods from mazaars or mannat foods...yes?
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Yes. Just send Daroods. Only those daroods which are in
Hadith.
And should be done ALONE. Don't specify time. Just recite
when ever you want. I know of 3 daroods. There maybe more.
