Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
great scholar, huge services to Islam, especially in setting the trends for giving wa'z and establishing tawheed....
unfortunately those who claim to be his followers go against his teachings....
and i wonder what the muslims of indo-pak will do, being kattar hanafis, when they know that he was a strict hanbali....
I'm a kattar hanafi and I love to listen to a maliki scholar.
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
all those who are wondering about the the life of a deboned chicken ..just read this hadees of prophet(pbuh)....
the scholars and aulias of my ummah are like the prophets of bani Israel....
if one prophet of bani israel can make dead alive by saying Qum ba iznillah...then why not Sh. Jilani can..make ...this by the will of God..as quoted in above hadees....
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
Above....reference please?
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
I'm a kattar hanafi and I love to listen to a maliki scholar.
me too..dear sis....:) and thanks for your nice re entry in the religion forum..
hope to get some excellent religious stuff from you in in future...:)
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
Above....reference please?
i think in Bahqi ..or Mishqaat ..not sure...
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
Its has to be a daeef hadith just compare it to the Quran for heaven sake its pure common sense.
Divine bhai phir se pase (But this hadith is more common in indo-pak)
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
Ok..i give you very great scholar syed Anwar Shah Kashmiri ..quote that once a man came in Bajnaur..in your india...cut a bird's head...and then make it fit on neck..the bird flew..Anwar shah met with this man...
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
i have given the two quotes of Imam zahbi..still you are not agreeing with that...:)
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
Divine light i have told you let it be starting from Imam Zahbi/ibn taymiyah, ibn qayyim, abu hanifa,imam shaaffi, imam malik, ibn hajjar, imam al thawri, imam asqalani, imam ibn wahhab, ashraf ali thanvi, khandalwi, nanotwi, let it be any on the face of earth every one is bound to do a muslim.
If it goes agains the Quran and the sahih hadith then let it be the best imam on the face of earth i will never accept it. I make it simple any sahih hadith will never and never contradict the Quran and remember we have to use Quran as our bench mark and secondly dont pull me into this contraversial issue i can get topics which can counter each and every statement.
So let us be in peace and live in one unity but our people from sub continent want each and everyone to adopt there school of thought or sect which they follow.
One more thing you shud better knowing the sayings of the great scholars also, they themselves have told we might be wrong.
Imam malik can you believe it he said i might be wrong as i m not innocent but not the One in medina (Referring to prophet pbuh) statig that Prophet is innocent.
Now you wanna call me salafi, ahle hadeeth, wahabi call me but i call my myself a MUSLIM ajeeb taklif hain. I respect, adore, each of the 4 great fuqahas and follow each one of them. They said that if any of my sayings go against the Quran and the sahih hadith please throw my sayings to the wall and Al hamdullillaah i am doing it.
I have even told you much more earlier it doesnt bother to me who says it bothers to me do they follow the Prophet and the sahaba karam thats most important to me.
I dont ask for quote from IMAM zahbi, he is a scholar from saudi good for him may Allaah reward him for his service to Islam but let us be practical, provide your references and i will keep my mouth shut.
Salam.
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
Muslims of Indo-pak are not stupid, they already know that, yet still think that he was one of the greatest wali and aalim
Forget about people who are hanbali, Imam Hanbal himself is greatly respected in Hanfi community, just like Imam malik and imam shaa'fi
True.
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
all those who are wondering about the the life of a deboned chicken ..just read this hadees of prophet(pbuh)....
the scholars and aulias of my ummah are like the prophets of bani Israel....
if one prophet of bani israel can make dead alive by saying Qum ba iznillah...then why not Sh. Jilani can..make ...this by the will of God..as quoted in above hadees....
Don't just throw ahadith left and right, give proper references, this place is not a mosque somewhere in pind where everyone will go "oooohhh", "aaahhhhh" without asking for references.
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
^You know the first time i heard that hadith for a moment i was shocked.
But later if we have to contemplate are we claiming
Sahabas and more so aulias are equivalent to (believe me i love them coz in this forum its quite common to throw words)
To Isa, Musa, Yahya, dawood, sulaiman may peace be upon them all. Then it also means to say everyone of the sahabas and aulias all are innocent, that means everyone recieved revelations, and they could even to miracles.
Can anyone please tell me each miracle of the following 4 sahabas please dont fight
1) Abu bakr
2) Umar
3) Uthman
4) Ali
May please be upon them all i know for sure where it will come from go ahead.
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
Usually the prophets were gifted with 'miracles' in accordance to what was considered 'in' at the time of their prophethood. For example, medicine for Hazrat Isa, magic for Haz. Moosa. If this were to continue, we should've been 'warned' either throu the Quran or some strong ahadees that such gifted people will continue to enlighten us.
It's funny how we dont find any Sahih hadees of Prophet Mohammad putting together a chopped/cooked chicken.
We, as muslims, have been chopped and cooked into sooooo many peices with these scholars that its just sad when you think about it..
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
Forget that they are more stories i can talk about believe me in those times the communication between the master and student was such that there wasnt any use of internet.
A master could communicate sittiing in medina to his student in Iraq(guess how dil se), believe me even Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him wasnt gifted with this attribute.
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
^^ miracles of umar....
river nile followed his letter....
in iran war..whlle in madina..he shouted on watching enemy ..and commander in iran heard his voice....
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
also there are miracles of ali....
once a khargite abused him..short time..a mad camel came and killed this man...etc etc...
how can you say that sahabas have no miracles....
when i have given example of sulaiman servant..then sahabas ..why cannot..they....???
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
Ok ..i will try to search the refernce of hadees....
and respected X Communist..we all agree that Prophet(pbuh) was far greater in merits and virtues than Jeusu..even then Jesus could riase a dead man..not Prophet(pbuh)..so does it means that ...having a miracle..will determine you which man or prophet is greater !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
why we are so much allergic about miracles...only a man who strictly follows sunnah...with the will of allah..allah give him some miracle..only allah wills..not this man's will....its the reality...furthermore..miracle ..is not something superiority..prophet(pbuh) was not given glowing hand of moosa...jesus...raisngh dead..dawood melting iron etc etc...every man is unique..just take it in that sense...
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
and miracles are not contradictatory with quuran..as in sulaiman case..i quoted above imam zahbi quote....
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
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