Many of you may of heard of this Wali Allah…
Many Karamaat are attributed to him.
Just want to know your thoughts on this subject!
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
I remember my childhood days, where ghiyarwain shareef used to be held at mother's uncle home during day time! Lots of fruits, pulao, qorma, hot-freshly made rooties! The mehfil-e-naat before the food. Memories of good old days.
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
great scholar, huge services to Islam, especially in setting the trends for giving wa'z and establishing tawheed....
unfortunately those who claim to be his followers go against his teachings....
and i wonder what the muslims of indo-pak will do, being kattar hanafis, when they know that he was a strict hanbali....
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
Many of you may of heard of this Wali Allah...
Many Karamaat are attributed to him.
Just want to know your thoughts on this subject!
What kinda karamaat?
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
great scholar, huge services to Islam, especially in setting the trends for giving wa'z and establishing tawheed....
unfortunately those who claim to be his followers go against his teachings....
and i wonder what the muslims of indo-pak will do, being kattar hanafis, when they know that he was a strict hanbali....
respected sir..you are right....usually his followers do some exegerations about him...no doubt Jinani sahab is the greatest wali of all times...the greatest sufi...
but last line is painful for me...being hanafi..as i am...means that ..i not respect Imam Ahmed Bin Hanbal....majority of hanafis also respect Imam Ibne Tamiyya ..
they have just diffrenece of opinions ..nothing else....
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I await someone elses answer to that question!
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What kinda karamaat?
dear sis...here is one....
**. Shaykh Sayyid Abdul Qadir Jilani and the Chicken
**A woman who was a disciple of the greatest saint Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani Baghdadi vowed that she would give her son to the saint to raise in his Sufi hospice and make her son into a dervish like the saint himself.
When her son reached about seven years she left him with the Shaykh as per her vow. One day she came to visit her son and was surprised to see the Shaykh sitting on a couch eating a chicken whereas her son was being fed bread with a weak, watery, soup. Her maternal instincts couldn’t be suppressed and she asked the Shaykh, “O’ my Shaykh! What is this? You are eating chicken and my son is eating soup?” The Shaykh smiled and put all the bones of the chicken he had eaten together and ordered it to come back to life! Immediately the cooked and eaten chicken came back to life and flew around the room. “When your son can do this”, said the Shaykh, “he too can eat whatever he wishes.”
(Ref: biographies of the greatest Shaykh Ghawth al Azam are replete with accounts of his miracles. The scholars have written that so many different people have witnessed the miracles of Ghawth al Azam that they have reached the level of tawattur or mass-transmission. This particular miracle was from another talk by Dr. Tahir ul Qadri called “Shaan e Ghawth”.)
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Proof of sufism from Hadees....
This is
declared in a Hadith-e-Quddsi, where Allah says to the Most Beloved ]Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala Alayhi wa Sallam), “Among the things
that bring My servant close to Me, the ones I love best, are the things
that I have made fard (compulsory). When My servant does nafil ibaadat (optional prayer), he gets very close to Me. So much so, that
I love him very much. When I love Him, I become his hearing ear,
seeing eye, holding hand, and walking foot. I give him whatever he
wishes. When he invokes Me for help, I protect him.”
In Bukhari Shareef, Hadrat Abu Huraira (Radi Allahu ta'ala Anhu) reports
the following Hadith-e-Quddsi:
The Most Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu Ta'ala Alayhi Wa Sallam) has said
that Allah said, “Whoever shows enmity to a friend of mine, I shall be at war
with him.”
Imam Zahbi about which salafi/ wahabi follows.....the strict opponents ..of Sufia ..On Shaikh Jilani....
A man who brought Balqees throne in a second was nothing but a karamat of a that person...so a jahil can negate the karamats of sufia...hence we fully acknoledge the miracles of sufias.."
*Kitab ul Oollod ul Arsh
Imam zahbi
Pg. 56 *
" I have come across the such a large numbers of miracles of Sh Abdul qadir Jilani ...that no wali ...can parallel to him in this regard..."
*Kitab Ollod ul Arsh
Imam zahbi
Pg 193 *
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www.islam-qa.com ..is considered as the world greatest wahabi or salafi website of answers and questions...in 8 languages ..and under the supervision of saudi scholars....
lets take a look on that....
*Question:
*
What do you think of Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani?
I have heard some really bad stories about Abdul Wahab and how he disgraced the religion of Islam? What is your opinion on this?
*Answer:
*
Praise be to Allaah.
When speaking about people, what we say must be based on knowledge and fairness. In the case of a man who has achieved a great deal in the way of religion, we must acknowledge his achievements, but that does not prevent us from pointing out his mistakes. This general principle is to be applied when speaking of Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qaadir al-Jilaani and other Muslim scholars.
Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qaadir (may Allaah have mercy on him) is one of the imaams of Islam. He attained a position of leadership over the Muslims of his time, in knowledge, good deeds, issuing fatwas and other aspects of religion. He was one of the greatest shaykhs of his time, enjoining adherence to the sharee’ah, enjoining what is good, forbidding what is evil, and giving that precedence over all else. He was an ascetic (zaahid) and a preacher, in whose gatherings many people repented. Allaah caused him to be well-liked by people and his virtue became widely-known – may Allaah bestow abundant mercy upon him.
Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qaadir was a follower, not an innovator. He followed the way of the righteous salaf and in his books he encouraged people to follow the salaf; he also enjoined that upon his followers. He used to tell people not to follow innovations in religion, and he stated clearly that he was opposed to the ahl al-kalaam (“Islamic philosophers”) such as the Ash’aris and their ills..
Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qaadir agreed with Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah – the followers of truth – concerning all issues of ‘aqeedah (belief), namely Tawheed, faith, Prophethood, and the Last Day.
There are some minor mistakes and errors in his books, and some innovations which are relatively insignificant when compared with his achievements. To find out more about them, along with an explanation of where he went wrong, please see Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qaadir al-Jilaani wa Araa’uhu al-I’tidaaqiyyah wa’l-Soofiyyah, by Shaykh Dr. Sa’eed ibn Musfir al-Qahtaani, 440-476.
Moreover, it is not right to make one Muslim scholar, let alone anyone else, the sole source of what is true and correct, in the sense that one takes what he says as being true and what goes against that as being false – not Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qaadir and not anyone else. Rather the truth is that which is in accordance with the Qur’aan and Sunnah, no matter who says it, and what goes against the Qur’aan and Sunnah should be ignored and avoided, even if it is said by ‘Abd al-Qaadir al-Jilaani, Maalik, al-Shaafa’i, Ahmad or anyone else.
There is a point which we must make here, which is that praising Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qaadir does not mean praising everyone who claims to follow him. Not everyone who claims to follow a shaykh or a tareeqah or anything else is to be believed. How often has it happened that a person who is thought to be a true follower turned out to be the farthest removed from what was thought to be the case? How many misleading people don the cloak of asceticism and piety when they have nothing to do with either of them? Hence the Sufi tareeqah which is known nowadays as the Qaadiriyyah is not following the straight path which the Shaykh (may Allaah have mercy on him) followed, rather it is a deviant Sufi tareeqah which has deviated from the guidance of the Qur’aan and Sunnah; it exaggerates a great deal about Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qaadir and even attributes to him things that can only rightfully be attributed to Allaah. Some of them exaggerate concerning his grave, seeking help from it, and some of them exaggerate about his attributes and miracles (karaamah).
By comparing the actions of those who claim to follow the shaykh with what is narrated in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, what was narrated from the righteous salaf and even what was narrated from the Shaykh himself (may Allaah have mercy on him), we will clearly see that there is a huge gap between the two, and that the Qaadiri group has deviated from the path of its shaykh whom they claim to be following. That is because they have introduced so many innovations (bid’ahs) into the religion of Allaah, that the Shaykh would never have approved of. It has been narrated from the respectable scholars that they regarded this group as extreme, for example what was said by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) in his refutation of al-Bakri concerning the issue of ziyaarah or visiting graves (1/228), and in the fatwas of Shaykh Muhammad ibn Ibraaheem Aal al-Shaykh, indicates that they have committed some actions of shirk.
See: Fataawa Ibn Ibraaheem, 1/276, 109
Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 2/250-252
Al-Durar al-Sunniyyah, 1/74
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
and i wonder what the muslims of indo-pak will do, being kattar hanafis, when they know that he was a strict hanbali....
Muslims of Indo-pak are not stupid, they already know that, yet still think that he was one of the greatest wali and aalim
Forget about people who are hanbali, Imam Hanbal himself is greatly respected in Hanfi community, just like Imam malik and imam shaa'fi
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
agreed...
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
Many of you may of heard of this Wali Allah...
Many Karamaat are attributed to him.
Just want to know your thoughts on this subject!
I do not understand this Karamaat stuff that our moulanas throw out left, rigth and centre all the time.
As if if one becomes a good muslims he will become great magician, doing wonderful tricks all the time. And many times in heat of Karamaat description the story looses all sense of religion, morality or esthetics.
For instance someone was saying about a saint that he is so "sahib-e-nazar" that once he looked at a dog and dog became so "sahib-e-kamaal" that all dogs of the city sat around this dog and did a "muraaqba".
Another person describibg Karamaat of Ali ra that when Rasoolullaah saw went to heaven riding on "Burraaq" he was "astonished" to see that Ali ra was already there on 7th heaven.
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
^^ You dont have to believe the karaamat aspect. But the fact that he was an aalim and wali remains
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
^No one can dispute that.
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
I myself take these Karamat stories with a grain of salt. Most of them are total fabrication
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
dear sis...here is one....
**. Shaykh Sayyid Abdul Qadir Jilani and the Chicken
**A woman who was a disciple of the greatest saint Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani Baghdadi vowed that she would give her son to the saint to raise in his Sufi hospice and make her son into a dervish like the saint himself. When her son reached about seven years she left him with the Shaykh as per her vow. One day she came to visit her son and was surprised to see the Shaykh sitting on a couch eating a chicken whereas her son was being fed bread with a weak, watery, soup. Her maternal instincts couldn’t be suppressed and she asked the Shaykh, “O’ my Shaykh! What is this? You are eating chicken and my son is eating soup?” The Shaykh smiled and put all the bones of the chicken he had eaten together and ordered it to come back to life! Immediately the cooked and eaten chicken came back to life and flew around the room. “When your son can do this”, said the Shaykh, “he too can eat whatever he wishes.”
(Ref: biographies of the greatest Shaykh Ghawth al Azam are replete with accounts of his miracles. The scholars have written that so many different people have witnessed the miracles of Ghawth al Azam that they have reached the level of tawattur or mass-transmission. This particular miracle was from another talk by Dr. Tahir ul Qadri called “Shaan e Ghawth”.)
r u serious... ppl say that about him.... Astaghfirullah! and can i guess that he has a shrine somewhere where ppl go to and pray for they needs?
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
dear sis...here is one....
. Shaykh Sayyid Abdul Qadir Jilani and the Chicken
A woman who was a disciple of the greatest saint Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani Baghdadi vowed that she would give her son to the saint to raise in his Sufi hospice and make her son into a dervish like the saint himself. When her son reached about seven years she left him with the Shaykh as per her vow. One day she came to visit her son and was surprised to see the Shaykh sitting on a couch eating a chicken whereas her son was being fed bread with a weak, watery, soup. Her maternal instincts couldn’t be suppressed and she asked the Shaykh, “O’ my Shaykh! What is this? You are eating chicken and my son is eating soup?” The Shaykh smiled and put all the bones of the chicken he had eaten together and ordered it to come back to life! Immediately the cooked and eaten chicken came back to life and flew around the room. “When your son can do this”, said the Shaykh, “he too can eat whatever he wishes.”
(Ref: biographies of the greatest Shaykh Ghawth al Azam are replete with accounts of his miracles. The scholars have written that so many different people have witnessed the miracles of Ghawth al Azam that they have reached the level of tawattur or mass-transmission. This particular miracle was from another talk by Dr. Tahir ul Qadri called “Shaan e Ghawth”.)
Is this for real
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
These karamaat being real or not....The stories range from iraq to india of different wali Allah's surely there has to be something there!
Doesnt there?
Re: Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gillani
^^ agreed..fully....i have quoted the above quote of Imam Zahbi...saudi scholars follow imam zahbi..he is considered as the staunch opponent of sufias...just read above..what he haas said....in his book...
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all