Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
Fatwas are dime a dozen and on any given subject there are plenty on either side.
You have been repeatedly asked to produce the verses to back up your claim. You refuse to do that but keep referring to hate material. Why should I go through mullah filth? Since you are a fan, how about you read it up and post the verses referenced?
People like you only learn when they are at the receiving end of hate and discrimination.
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
Another way for the mullahs to make money and use it to poison the youth? 
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
"shariah compliant". Read "OUR shariah compliant".
Anyone who disagrees will be beheaded shariah-tically, their properties usurped, and their women and children raped/enslaved.
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
My view about this topic is that if the guy has a successful product then he is a good businessman. And if anyone has any inkling of understanding of Islam in him then he would appreciate his efforts.
Islam is not a tool to raise hatred and bigotry. Doing a social boycott is the act of Kuffar of Makkah, who ostracized Banu Hashim in Shaybe Abi Talib.
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
theres already very similar halal meat and poultry commissions
of course the effects will empower islam. if your a muslim, or if you respect islam, shariah of Muhammad SAW you’ll have no problems with it.
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
"shariah compliant". Read "OUR shariah compliant".
yes definately OUR shariah
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i dont think that will be required
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
kchugtai, do you guys make up as you go along (re-interpret) with permission from your holy figures, or do you have set beliefs from mgaq?
because you do not seem to even respect some (harder, extreme even if your unfamiliar) aspects of Islam, be it the words of the Quran, or the Sunnah. since your here we might aswell learn about each other
it seems your holy war is removing religion from state, atleast in muslim countries
and your other holy war is fighting, but not in the cause of Allah but for places and people of whatever your residence is. its an interesting turn around
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
I wish you had enough knowledge of Seerah of the Noble Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him).
Do you really think that social boycotting is only done by the Kuffar of Makkah?
Do you really think that the Noble Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) did not use the social boycotting to overcome ‘hurdles’ in his mission?
Read about the three noble Companions (may Allah be pleased with them) who were boycotted by the Noble Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) and all the Muslims at that time were required to strictly boycott them!
The three Companions who were boycotted are: 1) Kaab bin Malik, 2) Marara bin Rabia Al Amri and 3) Hilal bin Unayya AI-Waqfi (may Allah be pleased with them).
The following incident is covered by the following ayah:
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And to the three who were left behind, until the earth became strait to them notwithstanding its spaciousness and their souls were also straitened to them; and they knew it for certain that there was no refuge from Allah but in Him; then He turned to them (mercifully) that they might turn (to Him); surely Allah is the Oft-returning (to mercy), the Merciful.* [Noble Quran 9:118]
THE CASE OF THE THREE FAITHFUL
Over and above the Hypocrites there were three faithful who failed to enroll themselves in Tabuk Expedition without any proper excuse. They were Kaab bin Malik, Marara bin Rabia Al Amri and Hilal bin Unayya AI-Waqfi. The Prophet after his return from Tabuk offered two rakat of Nafl prayers and sat with his companions in his Mosque. The Hypocrites came to him and offered false excuses in perjury for not participating in Tabuk Expedition.
The Prophet of God accepted their excuses. But when the Prophet inquired from Kaab bin Malik he said, “0 Apostle of Allah! Had I been before any one else, I would have pacified him by offering excuses, but I know even if I satisfied you by lying. God the Omniscient shall make you angry with me. And if I spoke the truth, I hope God will grant me penitence. By Allah I had no excuse (for lagging behind the Expedition).” The Prophet said, “This one spoke the truth, you go away till God sends His commandment about you.” (Musnad Ahmad)
The other two were also told the same thing. The Prophet told the faithful to boycott all the three. They were also ordered to separate themselves from their wives, and the earth though vast as it is, was constrained for them. They offered their sincere penitence for lagging behind from a war expedition without any excuse. After fifty days God accepted their repentance:
"And to the three also (did He turn in mercy) who were left behind, when the earth vast as it is, was straitened for them, and their own souls were straitened for them till they bethought that there is no refuge from Allah save toward Him. (Noble Quran 9/118)
Read Tafsir Ibn Kathir:
She said, By Allah! He has no desire for anything. By Allah, he has never ceased weeping since his case began until this day of his.' On that, some of my family members said to me, Will you also ask Allah’s Messenger to permit your wife (to serve you) as he has permitted the wife of Hilal bin Umayyah to serve him’ I said, `By Allah, I will not ask permission of Allah’s Messenger regarding her, for I do not know what Allah’s Messenger would say if I asked him to permit her (to serve me) while I am a young man.’ We remained in that state for ten more nights, until the period of fifty nights was completed, starting from the time when Allah’s Messenger prohibited the people from talking to us.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir - Quran Tafsir - The Three, Whose Decision was deferred by the Messenger of Allah
So please refrain from attributing actions to Kuffar which the Noble Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) had applied himself.
For your satisfaction I am giving you Shia source too.
[Pooya/Ali Commentary 9:118]
The reference is to three ansar, named Ka-ab ibn Malik, Hilal ibn Umayyah and Mirara ibn Rabi, who did not accompany the Holy Prophet on the expedition of Tabuk. In view of the verses which condemned such type of persons, they went to the Holy Prophet on his return and asked for his forgiveness, but were excluded from the brotherhood of the true believers and the life of the Muslim community. They were asked to wait for Allah’s revelation. They wept and prayed for pardon. After 50 days this verse was revealed.
Also do you know about Masjid Ad-Dirar?
The following ayahs relate to it:
And those who built a masjid to cause harm and for unbelief and to cause disunion among the believers and an ambush to him who made war against Allah and His Messenger before; and they will certainly swear: We did not desire aught but good; and Allah bears witness that they are most surely liars. [Noble Quran 9:107]
Never stand in it; certainly a masjid founded on piety from the very first day is more deserving that you should stand in it; in it are men who love that they should be purified; and Allah loves those who purify themselves. [Noble Quran 9:108]
Read about it here:
Tafsir Ibn Kathir - Quran Tafsir - Masjid Ad-Dirar and Masjid At-Taqwa
And here:
Demolition of Masjid al-Dirar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This ‘Masjid’ was demolished by the Noble Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him)!!!
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
I m sorry to say so, but you ibn sadique are a clown. A really big clown.
The social boycott by the Prophet (saw) was justified, because it was fardh for these people to take part in the expedition. Now, where is the sense in boycotting shezan? Let me say, why do you compare apples with oranges?
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
I m sorry to say so, but you ibn sadique are a clown. A really big clown.
The social boycott by the Prophet (saw) was justified, because it was fardh for these people to take part in the expedition. Now, where is the sense in boycotting shezan? Let me say, why do you compare apples with oranges?
Regardless if boycott for Shezan good or bad.
**I think people who boycott anything based on any reason should have freedom of choice and should not be called names.
***It all boils down to freedom of choice. The choice made on any reason.
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Let me ask you:
Is boycotting Shezan a sin or crime for any reason?
If you say yes, you are wrong.
If you say no, then you are still wrong for being so emotional enough to cast personal attack and be so negative.
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
I read your comment where you talked about social boycott. That is a grey area and a social boycott cannot be ruled in as a fatwaa
Base line is simple any support to kuffar that is used against islam is not jaiz,
Agreed. But can you prove that Shezan company does not have non-ahmedis as their employees, suppliers and vendors? I like to believe that there must be thousands of non-ahmedi families in Pakistan alone, whose rizq come through the business of this company. Even if Ahmedis have any agenda against non-ahmedis, and they are using the money towards that, more good is coming out of the business of than evil. In the hadees that I quoted, did prophet say that oh I am not going to buy the sheep from you because I know that you might buy a sword from that money to fight with Muslims.
Shirk is a much bigger sin than Rad-e-khatme-e-nabuwat. Even Allah said that He can forgive any and every sin but Shirk. And Hadees said that Prophet was doing a business with a mushrik. If we cant learn anything from that hadees then I am not sure how can we learn that when it comes to worldly matters, dealing with person of any faith or belief is allowed.
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
Let me ask you:
Is boycotting Shezan a sin or crime for any reason?
No. But trying to justify your boycott through Hadees and Quran is.
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
aisii baatoN se lagtaa hai k ham bahte paanii meN se makkhii machchar ko to chhaan rahe haiN magar haathii, ghoRe, Khachchar bahe jaa rahe haiN!
i hope some us are familiar with the Urdu phrase and what it signifies!
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
No. But trying to justify your boycott through Hadees and Quran is.
Like I said it does not matter if boycotting is good or bad.
Not acknowledging someone's freedom of choice is wrong.
**A whole lot of people use Hadeets and Quran in many different ways and as long as it is not directly harming anyone that should be acceptable for everyone. This is the whole basis of different sects and Ahmadis also have their own interpretations.
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Why must there be a name calling and condescending attitude towards one group of people when they use Quran and Hadeeth to justify their acts and not to other?
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Name calling is not acceptable according to this forum rules anyways.**
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
I m sorry to say so, but you ibn sadique are a clown. A really big clown. The social boycott by the Prophet (saw) was justified, because it was fardh for these people to take part in the expedition. Now, where is the sense in boycotting shezan? Let me say, why do you compare apples with oranges?
Bigboi – Coming from you I take it as a compliment. By dishing out abuse you are indeed following the ‘sunnah’ of MGAQ who is well known for abusive language. Sorry I won't respond to you in same vein. I'll let the viewers judge about who is a clown here.
I don’t know why your ahmadi/Qadiani feathers got ruffled? I was just responding to khoji’s post that: “Doing a social boycott is the act of Kuffar of Makkah*”.*
My view about this topic is that if the guy has a successful product then he is a good businessman. And if anyone has any inkling of understanding of Islam in him then he would appreciate his efforts. Islam is not a tool to raise hatred and bigotry.** Doing a social boycott is the act of Kuffar of Makkah**, who ostracized Banu Hashim in Shaybe Abi Talib.
Since we are on Social Boycotting, it is a fact that Qadiani Jamaat uses social boycotting of anyone to sees the light and leaves the cult. Be brave and deny it.
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
There are people who use Quran and Hadeeth to make different sects/religions (and even committing crimes) and we are upset on people who do not want to drink Shezan. 
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
^ no people on your side are upset because despite efforts by your 'ullemas', people still want to drink shezan ;)
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
^ no people on your side are upset because despite efforts by your 'ullemas', people still want to drink shezan ;)
How do you know what my side is?
I am all for those who drink and even for those who do not want to drink Shezan for ANY reason. ;)
Like I said, it is all about freedom of choice for ANY reason.
Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
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Re: Shehzan Juice peenay say mutaliq koi fatwa ?
Like I said it does not matter if boycotting is good or bad.
Not acknowledging someone's freedom of choice is wrong.
It is not a matter of 'somebody's' freedom of choice. Anyone can choose what to eat and what not but as TLK said making use of Quran and hadith for hurting your fellow country men should not be allowed. Moreover, instigating others and pressurizing them one way or the other to make same choices as you think better is also not right.
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A whole lot of people use Hadeets and Quran in many different ways and as long as it is not directly harming anyone that should be acceptable for everyone. This is the whole basis of different sects and Ahmadis also have their own interpretations.
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It should be ok to have difference of opinion. The purpose should be guiding people and making things easy for them rather than 'fassad fil arz' i.e., spewing hatred against some groups and then justifying it through holy scriptures.
Kindly have a look at the links bao bihari provided. forget about the rest, go to the verses from holy Quran that have been quoted for their purpose and you will see that this act is plainly based on ill-will and double standards.