She is Angry at Men.

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Eh i already gave my two cents in this thread :blush:

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MWAP : Sorry that you don't understand. Maybe when you grow up and have kids, especially daughters, or maybe when you meet more people and experience life more and observe more people, you might come to see what I mean.

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PCG is engaged? :eek:

Man with a plan…Depends on YOU, I was one of the biggest man-hatters there is but when I met my fiance, I changed A LOT because he treated me right. I was almost forced to forget everything that happened in the past because everything with him is so beautiful..

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I have yet to come across a woman that will rate a man higher than her father. Does that mean all of these fathers are beyond reach and that the newer generations just aren't making the mark? Of course not. It simply means that we have never had the same experiences we have with our father with other men. It also means that the love and bond we share with our father helps us to overlook, if you will, the deficiences that we so vehemently point out in our acquaintances, friends, fiances, husbands, etc.

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Muzna not necessarily. There are men out there who cheat, gamble, mistreat their wives, etc etc...and they have great relationships with their daughters. Its a blood relationship, and its one that is being built before the daughter is even born...so its quite different from the wife-husband relationship.

So, no. I don't think a good father means that father is an all-around good person.

Not always. I would hope most of the time it does, but i've always been a dreamer...

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PCG, not necessarily what?
Unless I'm not reading correctly, you and I are saying the same thing.

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I guess you're reading incorrectly.

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Man hating just reeks of immaturity and naivete. I mean its just such an ignorant and blatant generalization that no amount "sob stories" can justify it. Most girls usually change their tune once they get married. No surprises there.

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I know what you mean. I hope you understand what you mean.

I have no problem with girls looking up to their fathers. Some girls do that, they want their husband to be just like him others don’t. If anyone that doesn’t ‘match up’ that not his problem. You see that’s what I am trying to explain here, these women who run around being ‘holier than thou’ saying you this you that. Who cares what you think? Who gives you the permission to go generalizing and degrading men just because they don’t match up to your Dad. These women need to get their thinking straight, not us. If every girl thinks her father is the best then what is the best? Makes no sense and on top of that there is name calling and other stuff that I have mentioned.

What kind of maturity is this when you call other people names and do other disgusting things? What kind of growth is when you know that the generalization is not true, one continues to be unregretful? It is not our problem and sooner these women understand the better is for them not us. I have yet to see guys (in majority speaking) who go ga ga over girls that think this way. They are simply annoying. All I am saying is that one regardless of age and gender must oppose this thinking and what did I get so far?

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There are men also who think like this about women.

But, to answer ur questions…yes, these girls are worth a relationship. Yes i think they have to let go of some baggage, otherwise it will put the relationship in jeopardy. Some girls (or guys) do change after starting a new relationship, where they see that their new partner is treating them nicely, totally oppostite of wot they’re accustomed to. However, a guy shudn’t continue a relationship with a girl, thinking that HE can change her attitude and her thinking negatively about men. Finally, yes there is hope…always :slight_smile:

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I agree with u. And i think it’s madness to compare how u feel about ur dad to how u feel about ur partner. Ur parents r one thing, and ur spouse is another. It’s not even fair to expect ur partner to be like ur dad or ur mum, and y wud u wana marry someone like ur parents? I know, if ur parents r good ppl etc., then yea u may want the same common values in him/her also…the same values u hold, but it’s not rite to put that sort of pressure on ur partner. To each his own place.

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As much as I agree and appreciate all of the ositive response about this issue, I must say that hypocrisy and sexism has no excuse. You can't justify it. These women who hate men so much are the first in line to look for them and get married. Life is too short to be pissed off all the time and over an issue that is so non-sense, is sad. Yes, abuse and ill-treatments have exceptions but most of these women are immature and unsophisticated.

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No these girls are the devil, never ever pester such a girl with your inaneness. Such girls are prone to excessive anger and cannot be held liable for any thing that may consequence as a result of your (obvious) greatness.

Ref: lady who cuts off amazing husbands penis. :(

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as the saying goes

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put your house in order first and then worry about the world outside
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those who are angry at men should first take care of the so-called men [if any] in their own houses and then worry about others. that will def make life easier for them even if at home only. :stuck_out_tongue: :rolleyes:

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No PCG....YOU aren't comprehending what I've written.

I have said precisely what you have said.....that just because a girl sees her father as God's gift to the world, doesn't necessarily mean that he is. Furthermore....that same girl can't judge another man by that yardstick because she has not had that same relationship with the other man (i.e. the husband/wife relationship is different from the father/daugther relationship). I can't understand how you wouldn't get that message from my post....but moving on.....

I have to totally agree with skhan - Man hating just reeks of immaturity and naivete. And there is no amount of bad experiences that can justify hatred towards an entire gender. Most girls grow out of it eventually. Most.

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Oh no :nono: let them rot in hell :nono4:

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Hey hey now. We have had centuries of misogyny which is just the exact same thing. Woman-hating. We have had loads of literature and philosophy written on it. The most educated of men have been guilty of woman-hating, and guess what? The suckers were and still are being praised for it.

Even in this day and time, where women do work, and have constantly again and again proved themselves, we have nuts coming onto forums, and into public and other venues and speaking about how women should sit at home, and NOT do work in public because God forbid some jerk hits on them.

So you have some women, which believe me, are a minority of women (even evidenced by the ladies who do a lot of sucking up to male guppies here), who stand up and will speak the facts.

Women are being abused, and the numbers are HIGH.

Women are not just being physically abused, but they're being mentally abused worldwide.

They are, in many countries, STILL considered second class citizens.

Religions are being used to justify mistreatment towards females.

Stripping females of personal individual free choice is just NOT considered a crime here. You put up a thread about whether a husband has a right to demand his wife to wear a hijab, and most people here will AGREE that he is justified!!!!!! Very few find this disturbing.

I could go on for centuries, and I usually do about these topics anyway. And its not because I've had a bad experience with men that make me feel like men are all evil and horrible. I have had both good AND bad experiences, so I disagree with the poster's original generalization that man-haters are all man-haters due to their personal experiences.

Personal experiences do not shape EVERYTHING about a person. Its easy to point and say that the person must have been victimized, oh poor thing. Its harder to admit that society has a real problem.

Now, if you want to talk about man-hating, then lets talk about REAL FACTS. Lets talk about the stats of women being abused. That should give you enough to get REALLY disgusted.

Is man-hating fair though to all men? Well, if the person is stipulating clearly that they think ALL men have these sorts of problems. They clearly don't, there are plenty of good guys out there.

But are crimes against women to be marginalized, as a result? NO.

Are they constantly being marginalized? YES. By our own culture? YES.

Is it fair to say that women who point out and criticize men are man-haters, and don't deserve husbands? NO.

That's the easy way out of the problem right?

Everyone knows there is a purple elephant in the room...no one wants to talk about it.

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PCG,

I don't think anyone is denying that maltreatment occurs. I certainly have not suggested that society does not have a problem. Nor is anyone suggesting that it should all just be swept under the carpet.

The issue arises when somebody allows it to consume them.

It would be foolish to suggest that you should stop talking about something that you hold near and dear to your heart....but it would be equally foolish to expect that each and every thing wrong with society can be attributed in some way to men denying equality to women.

There are many, many things wrong with the world today. Women are suffering injustices and in many countries even their basic human rights are being neglected and/or denied. If equality was something that I wanted to champion, I would take the energy and channel it so that measurable results could be achieved.

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Again, stop playing mind-games. Be direct and to the point. Mean what you say, so that people can see what you really mean to say. :wink: It’ll make you look more honest, and less political. :wink:

For someone who has contributed a great deal and led this website to the success its achieved, and inshallah will keep achieving if only moderators do their job right, you sure are one to tell others that a woman’s place is not to work. And you sure are to tell women that misogyny is not a problem that they should focus on. I hate to use the term “consume them”, because even though you may think I think about misogyny every minute of my day, I actually don’t. But give me an opportunity to influence women’s thinking through this medium, and I will take it. Doesn’t mean that any one topic is “consuming” me.

There are plenty of things I find wrong with society and NOWHERE have I said all societal problems are due to gender role problems in our society. Never. If you can prove it, please do. I think a LARGE NUMBER of problems could be solved and/or diminished/alleviated if we only learned to respect each other. That would also involve respecting the opposite sex.

I take misogyny up, because I see the abuse going one way. Women are being abused in our society. I do not think men really are being abused on a widescale, and the onus is on you to prove they are if you think they are.

Hence it is a problem that can’t be ignored, and it should not be marginalized. Saying it shouldn’t be a problem that consumes people is all and fine, but I dont see any evidence that it is consuming everyone. Hey I write a lot, but you wont realize it though, I do type fast. So I only spend a small portion of my time on here, and even a smaller actually writing responses to misogyny related threads. Therefore, unless you get your behind here where I am and observe my every move, you have no right to INSINUATE (since you prolly dont have the guts to admit it outright) that this is “consuming my time”.

And again, you insinuate that I am complainging about the problem without doing anything about it. Think again. You again, do not have proof of what I do off this website. For all you know I might very well be involved in dealing with misogynist issues.

Assumptions will only cause you to make an arse of yourself.