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PCG, are you really engaged??!! CONGRATS!! best wishes to you!
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Where did you get that this is about me geekk and Mama?
niyal, If you read my intial post you'll see that I did talk about those men. The topic is about women who blame everthing on men for no reason. What do you think about that?
sooraj-mukhi, what are you talking about? Please explain.
People its just a topic, not about me or anyone in particular. Please stick to it.
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Uhmm maybe not blame al men for everything. But I’ve had bad experiences, known things that I wish I didn’t know, and that makes me really weird when someone gets to know me… i think if the guy truly respects her and cares for her he should try to be patient.. i know it don make no sense.. 
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Plan Man, Girls are strange creatures at the best of times, the last thing you want is someone with additional emotional and psychological problems…
Run, Run as fast as you can
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I think you do make sense. My intial question was ‘Is there any hope?’ Some believe that there is no hope. I guess if the guy really loves her, he will try his best to show her the whole picture but don’t you guys agree that change should come from with in?
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^ Oh of course.. change does come from within, u can't do anything until you hve it in u personally.. but its nice to have someone there for you too.. you need a support system , if u take the step to change something in you, your life, ur looks/health, whatever, you need ppl who r gonna be patient and respectful and try to help you not discourage you..
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MWP, you should not talk about Sara and PCG like this...
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Um.. what?
What did i do? When have i ever shown anger and hatred towards guys? ?? 
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^ So you dont think that men are evil and pigs and their penis should be chopped off?
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No, what made you think that I think that? Do i come off angry and man hating?
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I have some questions. Are these girls worth a relationship?
Well being such a good muslim boy, I would think you'd know the standard answer to that. Rishtay aasman pe bantay hai.
Or as I prefer to say - for each person, usually, there is a compatible soul mate made for that person. Maybe you can't jive with such a lady, but there are other guys who will. Everyone perceives things differently. You don't like the "all men are pigs" generalization, because its a generalization...I'm surprised that you're insinuating a generalization that women like this wont find a soul-mate.
Do they have to 'let go' of some of the baggage in order to get into a relationship?
If by baggage, you mean past negative experiences, which you are SUPPOSING is the cause of their bitter attitude towards men? If its past neg. experiences, then yes, you gotta shed that baggage. But isn't that life in general? How many of us have NOT been affected by some previous negative experience? And how many of us have to force ourselves to shed this baggage to "move on"? Its part of the human experience, and to deny that just is self-denial.
However, I don't think past bad experiences are the only sources of fuel for this type of anti-male anger.
or Only a relationship can change their attitudes towards Men? Is there any hope?
No, in the case that previous neg. experiences are the main influence, exposure to positive relationship experiences (not necessarily one's own) helps to negate the negative. They say that to diminish every pain from a negative you need like 50 positives. So, for example, teachers used to tell us that if we get negative criticism, we tend to focus on that more than postivie criticism. And it will take 50 compliments to help us get over one insult/neg criticism. Meeting more people is also a source of hope...that maybe the man-hater might meet more decent men.
Now if the source of the anger is entirely different than what you think, then honestly, the only way she's going to change her anger and disgust at men, is if men start changing their ways.
Fat chance.
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so true! count me as one of them!
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I agree with Zakk too on that. My father is the BEST man that I know, and as of yet, I have not even seen any man behave with that much class. Even the fiance doesn't come close.
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^i dont think fathers belong to the same class as fiances, but in any case, congrats on your engagement. 
i know quite a few gals with father issues. everyone handles it differently, and according to thier situation. some chase men and eventually settle down, some bide time, some focus on careers, and some resign themselves to a quick marriage. (thats also all the possibilities for a normal gal, so dont be fooled : )
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hmm yeh i think the father bit is ohh so true...I've always looked for my dad's approval..when I was younger infact that's what drve me to be an over achiever. I think I do the same with guys I like...go over the top...pull out all the stops...
Hmm..you've made me think now...
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PCG, I agree that if there is a person who really cares about her will do his level best to show that all men are not like this. I know that these types of women do carry a lot of baggage. Some from past experience some just being in a bad company. They say men are bad. It is a generalization, true but a wrong one. Women who believe like this do not have a right frame of mind. Most of them call men names and even stab a man in the back without the blink of an eye or even a twinge of conscience. That is wrong. Completly wrong and if anyone who is doing this deliberlatly to other innocent and unrelated men should be told to behave themselves.
I know with these girls logic can't work. One have to reach and connect with them emotionally. The trust that is broken is not easy to repair but it can be done with few roller-coster rides. The point is, this kind of behavior should be unacceptable by both men and women and if there are women who do believe like this should take a break or change their thinking. About 'men start changing their ways', I mean can't you open your eyes and look around. Most of the bad boys you talking about are either in some small gangs or prison. Most of the guys work, study or are at home. They qualify in this category too? It just makes no sense to have a belief like this and to change this notion I don't think these women should look for evidence rather than think intelligibly.
ghuLail, I know there are girls who do fill their lives with careers, work and study in order to limit their contacts with guys. I have no problem with that, you know why because they don't call names and do other erroneous things.
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There are plenty of things that guys do that doesn’t land them in jail all the time. Example cheating. I say this because I just had a conversation with a woman who divorced her womanizing husband and what she went through.
You’d be suprised at how many men have had affairs. I would go so far as to say that most men have two-timed their women.
But God forbid if a girl does that. :nono:
You are asking that women behave themselves if men are expected to behave themselves. When in reality its quite opposite. Its pretty much men who need to live up to the standards that women typically set. 
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Would you please start to make some ....... sense?
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^ Actually she kinda does. She's saying that there's plenty of bad things that guys will do that don't land them in jail or were from gangs, such as cheating, double standards, and just generally disrespecting grlz and that how can you ask women to behave when men themselves won't behave..
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Read my initial post.