Redefining the Role of Women in Islam | Feet in 2 Worlds
I can see Burqa Mullah keeling over, and his mind exploding.
Re: Shaykha
Good stuff. Time to question every jahil mullah’s directive everywhere.
Re: Shaykha
I have a question. Is Taylor Swift also a female Islamic scholar? @khattichic called her shaykha somewhere on these very forums. But how could she be? I am very confused. 
Actually I have asked two questions here. So read my first sentence as “I have two questions”. Thanks and regards.
Re: Shaykha
The article was OK until they talk about women leading the Friday prayers…someone correct me but isn’t this going against Islam, is there any precedent for such action?
On another forum someone posted a YouTube link with a women leading Friday prayers while reciting in both English and Arabic, leading a mix gender jamma…seriously
Let’s hope this group takes the positive/halal elements of women empowerment while rejecting the negative/haram.
Re: Shaykha
Both sides quote ahadees in favor of their stance.
Re: Shaykha
Can you post the hadeeth in favor of women leading Friday prayers, if there is one. Thanks.
Re: Shaykha
The main evidence of the female-led Jumu’ah advocates is the hadeeth of Umm Waraqah. It was related by Aboo Daawood [43], Ahmad [44], and others, with various wordings. In it, she relates that the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) allowed her to have someone call the athaan at her home and she would lead the people of her household in prayer
Now do not go and start a discussion about if this hadess is zaeef.
You wanted to know the hadees which is quoted in favor and I provided you the answer to your question.
Personally I belong to the school of thought which favors women leading prayer in their homes if there is something prohibiting men of the house to lead or go to masjid to pray. I do not favor women leading a prayer for general public. I do favor women Islamic scholars because our mother and wife of prophet(SAW) , Aisha Siddiqa(RA) has quoted thousands of ahadees and she used to provide guidance to Muslims after Holy Prophet(SAW) left this world. Which to me is a proof that women can be Islamic scholars and teach men.
I myself learned to understand the meaning of Quran from Dr. Farhat Hashmi via her recorded lessons. Again I do not totally agree with all the philosophy of Dr. Farhat Hashmi. I identified lots of blunders in her lectures and her understanding of religion and her interpretation of some verses but it does not disqualify her to teach me Quranic Arabic. I respect her and pray for her to the core of my heart.
Re: Shaykha
It was a joke :sid:
Re: Shaykha
Ah OK. That clarifies a lot.
Re: Shaykha
I don’t see what the big deal is. There are already female aalims. Though like Br. Umar I also find their ambitions of leading Juma questionable.
Re: Shaykha
Topic isn’t about women leading prayers. It’s about female scholars. Two different things.
Re: Shaykha
The article does discuss that they want to lead prayers, so it is relevant to this discussion. Woman scholars are nothing new either.
Re: Shaykha
Yes, but if some femake wants to lead and some people willing to pray behind her why bother with the subject. Free will and free expression of religion. Why is this nation thekedar of islam. Why are we declaring who is and is not a muslim. So tired of this nonsense.
Re: Shaykha
Actually the nonsense is what you are saying.
There is a wisdom in not appointing women who lead the prayer.
Please do not try to put your leg in the matter you know nothing about.
My humble advise: Learn something about the topic before saying something.
Re: Shaykha
There is no wisdom in religion. It should make you a better person and give you ability to think. It obviously has not done that for you. Read my statement again. If a woman wants to lead and willingly people want to follow. What right you have in stopping that. Stupid mullahs do this kinda nonsense.
Re: Shaykha
If you are starting from here then you are in the wrong thread. You do not even recognize religion then what is in this debate for you?
I am not a mullah, I recognize free will and yes if someone is stupid enough to twist the religion out of their own free will then someone else has to keep the record straight, out of their own free will. What is mullah like about it?
If you give someone right to interpret religion in a way they want to then you have to give the same right to others to refute that interpretation.
Fair enough?
Nobody so far has stopped mixed gender Islamic Prayer/Namaz. There are people who are saying that this practice is not consistent with the fundamental principles of Islam.
Re: Shaykha
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Re: Shaykha
For you, or many others like you religion has no wisdom.
For a lot others, it does.
Just like a good poetry makes sense for those who can understand it,.. but for many others it means nothing.
Who says religion ‘should’ make a person better and gives ability to think?
One cannot place a condition over religion to make someone think or be a better person.
The Person has the responsibility to become better or think.
**Religion has no responsibility on itself. Religion is just a mixture of rules and regulations as well as rituals.
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Similarly, laws of land do not make people good or bad, neither they make a person think or suppose to.
Laws of land are merely written rules and methods how to act in precise manner.
You made an opinion about me, I am free to make opinion about you as long as we do not cross the fine line, its alright.
Now come to the topic or side topic of women leading in prayer:
It is one of the area where great wisdom says that women should not lead the prayers since it is not just leading the prayer, it is about men to be considered the protectors and women cannot in general be appointed to have a role of Imamat by virtue of their physical needs during monthly cycle or when they get pregnant.
**There are roles assigned to men and women differently and nothing wrong with it.
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You keep saying stupid mullah, actually this sounds a lot more stupid itself since you seem to have just started questioning the realities of life. You do sound a bit immature.
You should read about the topic a bit before acting so judgmental.
Re: Shaykha
All wrong. If you can convince me that religion should be used to make laws then tell me which religious sect should a country like Pak follow? Should we have religious police like Saudi that beats you if you are not doing namaz at namaz time? Instead why not let people be free to practice whatever religion they want, how they want.
Let women lead in a mosque if she wants. Modern day a pregnant woman with ak-47 in her hand beats a very mocho man any day, twice on Sunday.
There is no wisdom in any religion. Iqra is the first word that was delivered in quran. It was meant to find wisdom in universe and be a force of good. Islam I read and understood does not mean that you only read quran and hadeeth to death. It wont take you to Mars, cure infection etc. Thats the wisdom part you missed.
Re: Shaykha
Sure. I can agree only If keeping the record straight is not delivered as a hate speech in a mosque. Then nutt jobs will be out hunting women who lead prayers.
Secondly our nation is no thekedar of Islam. Hermain of kaaba are. Let them tell us all that our practice of islam is all wrong. They likely do that anyway.