Shariah Law in Canada

Protestors march against sharia law in Canada
CTV.ca News Staff

Demonstrations are planned across Canada and Europe today to protest against allowing Islamic sharia law in Ontario.

Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty said his Liberal government will decide “shortly” on whether to permit Islamic law to be used in Ontario family arbitration cases.

He insists the rights of women will not be compromised if sharia tribunals get the go-ahead to settle marital disputes for Muslims in the province.

“Whatever we do, it will be in keeping with the values of Canadians and Ontarians,” he told reporters Wednesday.

The Ontario government is still reviewing a report submitted nine months ago by former provincial Attorney-General Marion Boyd.

Boyd recommends that Muslims in Ontario should have the same rights as other religious groups such as Christians and Jews which have used faith-based arbitration to settle family disputes since 1991.

If Ontario rejects sharia, then it faces the spectre of ending all religious arbitration, Boyd said.

Boyd claims there is no evidence women were being discriminated against in faith-based arbitration and recommends that Ontario’s existing arbitration system be strengthened.

“The recommendations that I’ve made put a lot of safeguards in place,” Boyd told CTV’s Canada AM.

“I think they have to have the political courage to recognize they’re not going to satisfy everybody.”

However the prospect of sharia-based tribunals in Ontario has raised alarm bells among women’s groups across Canada and Europe, as well as human-rights activists and dissidents from Islamic states such as Iran.

They argue that sharia, even limited to family arbitration, would create a precedent for religious fundamentalists working to suppress women’s rights. They say it could discriminate against Muslim women who might be pressured into it against their will.

“They are helping the Islamic groups to legalize violence against women,” campaigner Shiva Mahbobi told CTV’s Canada AM.

“It’s racism to put people in different categories and define their rights based on where they come from.”

“Under shariah law if a woman has a relationship outside marriage she can be stoned to death and girls as young as nine can be made to marry,” Mahbobi added.

“I am asking the government to give a choice to these women.”

New Democrat MPP Peter Kormos accused the McGuinty government of burying its head in the sand. “It’s regrettable that the government has simply failed to act in the matter and failed to address concerns that are raised,” he told The Globe and Mail.

Even McGuinty’s opponent, Progressive Conservative Leader John Tory acknowledged the government is grappling with a difficult issue, one that is “hugely emotional” for both sides, Boyd’s report said.

Protesters are planning to convene at Queen’s Park in Toronto at noon Thursday.

The protest will coincide with marches in 11 other cities in Canada and Europe, including Victoria, Ottawa, Montreal, London, Paris and Stockholm.

i dont get it, why wud anyone want to have an affair outside marriage in the first place? thats their defending argument?. n no one is forcing them to follow shariyah. u can follow it if u want to. i dont see anything wrong with it. as long as i doesn conflict with charter of rights, it shouldnt be a problem for anyone.

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It's just people forcing their own irreligiousness down everyone elses throat...

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bring it on. real & genuine muslims will grind-to-dush this stupid islamic law.

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its not stupid for a practicing muslims. second, there is a choice for everyone who wish to follow it or not. its not being forced upon on anyone.

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I think it's a good idea. Similar demands should be made by Muslims in Britain and America. It's good publicity.

Furthermore, in Pakistan Sharia law should be implemented to the letter. Theft should be punishable with amputation, and so on. It will be good for Pakistani society.

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From what I have heard about it, both sides (if for a divorce) or an individual who wishes to seek the Shariah Law will have to ask for it voluntarily. It will not be imposed on all Muslims. It is optional and I definitely support it.

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Damn. I thought it was compulsory. In Pakistan there's no reason why Sharia should not be made compulsory.

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Because in Pakistan and likely elsewhere, womens rights will be taken away, even the rights guaranteed in Islam will be conveniently "overlooked for the good of hte society.. :rolleyes:

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Because most of the population only wants to live their life by parts of Islam and ignore the rest :rolleyes:

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^^:rolleyes:

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^^ :rolleyes:

Btw.. where are those who say Islam and the West can go hand in hand?

In my business ethics class, I was told by my proffesor that a religous philosophy would not work in a business enviroment, especially Islamic Philisophy. Islam does not allow interest under any condition. Adopting such a philosophy would trigger a direct war between Corporate America and the Islamic World.

It was then i realized, that a secular education like the one offered in US colleges is not for Muslims.

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Secular education explains what interest as used in the American system IS, and HOW it works. Secular education does not say that such a system is the ONLY and BEST way to go, at least I've never been taught that. In fact, in the American system, you're able to learn about any economic philosophy/system you want, and if you support it, there is no prohibition to. There were people in my classes who argued in favor of socialism and even communism. They didn't get F's either from what I recall.

That point is a side issue though - the real comment I want to make is that its amazing we've got sharia being pushed in non-Islamic countries...and yet we can't get it right in the muslim countries.

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^^ Arguing in favor of socialism and communism in a philosophy class is one thing, and providing the theory in political economy class is an another thing. How many of those students can actually stick by those theories at their work places?

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They are free to move to China or Cuba, if they wish to practice it.

There is a socialist party in the US, you know that right? (or is it communist? I can’t remember).

So, if that’s what you like, then vote for that party :nahnah: No one says that capitalistic principles are the only ones you’re allowed to vote for.

As for political economy classes - one of my roommie’s was a poli sci major - she would tell me the same thing - i’ve sat in economics classes before as well where communism/socialism has come up.

Maybe Islamic scholars need to stop complaining about stuff and start publishing research in the States about Islamic economic systems :wink: , so that it too can be a part of the curriculum.

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^
in university of toronto, they have decided to hire muslim professors to teach shariah law.

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So after you amputate that person, who is going to provide him with a job? How is he going to support himself? So basically he will just end up on the street begging for food?

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Fabulous. Sharaabi, now you can go to a kaafir city where they teach Islamic law. :D

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Black_Jack_Sensei, I'm very glad to hear that. For long Islam has been taught by non-Muslim professors who bring with them their biased views and opinions about Islam. A number of people that I know have taken courses at university on Islam and have said that it wasn't the right or the best material that they learned.

Anyway, Jewish and Christian laws are permitted in Canada. Therefore, it doesn't seem right to prevent Shariah law from being introduced into Canada.

From what I have learned, all these laws are permitted (or would be in Shariah law's case if it's gets approved), so long as they don't go against the laws of the country.

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yep. lets see what happens now.

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^ the problem little nudniks is that islam goes into governance…can you implement only social governance per shariah but not criminal or political governance? some the other day talked about you either accept islam or you don’t, in a thread about Sania Mirza. Why the hypocricy? Shouldn’t shariah involve establishment of a khilafah in canada along with establishing no-pork on fridays in middle schools?

why this pick and choose? oh, I will tell you why…because muslims will be herded like cats and sent back to their khilafah of choice out of Canada. this is why this is a stupid concept.

In India, Muslims have learned to delineate political governance from social governance. They have a muslim civil code, (a stupid concept which will go away soon) but it is still a good way of going about it. At least they acknowledge that Bharat Mata’s laws come before Allah mian’s. And that is a good thing. :k: