Shall India break off relations with Israel

Should India severe relations with Israel; partially or completely…..is a debate in India over Israel’ attacks on Lebanon cities.

The left forces want India to curb all kind of arms-purchase and other products from Israel, whereas some intellectuals and foreign policy experts name it a call to go back to stone ages.

http://o3.indiatimes.com/yossarin/archive/2006/07/30/1101340.aspx

Israel Lebanon Hezbollah Conflict - What should Indias position be?

This is a good reason for India to not take a moralistic position in favor of one side against the other. Beyond humanitarian considerations India has no immideate stakes in the conflict between the Hezbollah and Israel. There are however long term Energy Security concerns. But these apply to the rest of the world as well and are not unique to India. A prolonged bout of violence or an enlargement to other regions is no more India’s interests than it would be for the United States or Europe. Indian diplomatic efforts must be hence to work with the International Community in building a consensus towards a sustainable peace in the middle east. The U.S. guided by its own interests and strong domestic support for Israel had initially chosen its own path. Bowing to immense pressure from Europe and within some sections in the U.S., the Bush Administration is now veering towards a UN resolution and an International force mandated by the United Nations. To the extent possible India should lend its support to such an effort while it has international consensus. There is no need for India to go out of its way alone to take a silly moralistic position on this issue.

No matter what position India takes it is important that this does not lead to a legitimisation of a Hezbollah type state sponsored low intensity guerilla warfare that makes it impossible to distinguish terrorist from civilian. This is a dangerous trend that has the potential to legitimise a state within a state and become an example to other insurgencies across the world. South Asia can ill-afford such a scenario. The Newsweek Magazine in its latest edition carried an article titled “India’s Beef with Pakistan“ where it almost endorsed the Musharraf regime’s legitimisation of the Jammaat-ud-Dawa the parent organization of the Lashkar -e- Taiba for its relief work in Pakistan Occuppied Kashmir in the aftermath of the deadly earthquake. It is precisely this kind of legitimacy that allowed Iran to nurture the Hezbollah into the almost regular military force with civilian cover that it has morphed into today. Hence it is all the more imperative that India influence the International Consensus in a direction that leads to the disarming of the Hezbollah and a wholesale rejection of this brand of terrorism that sustains itself through a mass social network which not only acts a shield but also becomes a reason to accord it political legitimacy.

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What Israel is doing is very wrong. If it wants to take on Hezbollah, then let it send its "Mossad" to assasinate all the top people of Hezb, but attacking and destroying Lebanon and killing civilians is unacceptable.

India, should clearly send a message that killing innocents is not acceptable, but we should definitely keep Israel engaged, both politically and economically, as they have been more reliable than the OIC members.

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India cannot afford to break ties with Israel. If it does, then it must break ties with the remainder 50 States of the USA?

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First of all, i think this question should be answered. will india breaking its ties with israel is going to solve this problem?...the anwer is clear cut no. What stand india takes on this, holds no weightage to any country or to this world. All it can do is, just advice israel or lebonon not to be agressive. And also by this logic, india should have broken its ties with USSR / russia in 1980's. All it did and also could only do at that time was to advice USSR to leave afghanistan. that too it never did it openly, as far as my knowledge goes. Even now, it can only do just that. If this issue is elongated even further, india should not have any relations even with its neighbouring countries.

My personal opinion, disband hizbollah and its guerillas / fighters should join regular lebanese army.

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No. If Palestine still maintains relations with Israel, why India should break its relation. Honestly speaking, no one should try to be a party in any bilaterel disputes.

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India should always stand with country like Israel coz Israel is also facing terrorists attacks like India from past 5-7 decades. Our problem and needs r similar to each other, we can help each other in many way for the people of our country. There is a only big difference between India and Israel is "India called a soft hearted and Israel is very agrresive country"

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Yes, I agree with you that Hindu terrorist are a real threat to our country. The Hindu terrorist (Hindu Mahasabha) divided our country by instlling fear amongst muslims and thus facilitating the creation of Pakistan. After killing the father of the nation, they went dormant for full four decades until they got Ram Janma Bhoomi issue. Now they are again raising their ugly heads in the form of Shiv Sena and Bajrang Dal and VHP. We must quench these ugly establishment to create a peaceful India free from terrorism. Once Hindu terrorist network is dismantled then muslim extremism in Kashmir would automatically disappear. Remember, Kashmir problem didn't exist before 1990 but Ram Janma Bhoomi issue started during mid 80s. Again Muslim Leage to create Pakistan was formed in response to Hindu Mahasabha's vision of Hindu India.

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I dont agree with you and hollowman that India is a soft country.

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This is factually incorrect.
Muslim league was formed in 1907 i think. And Hindu Mahasabha was formed in 1916. Rss was formed much later when a part of Hindu mahasabha split with a more militant hinduism as its agenda.Even then Hindu mahasabha didnt hold the conscious of all Hindus. Congress was strong and had a very secular outlook. Muslim league on the other hand became a more popular among the muslim masses and managed to instill the fear in them that Hindus are going to take over the country.
Even if your assumptions were true then India should have been a Hindu state the day it was born. It clearly proves that Hindu Mahasabha or the RSS didnt have the backing of the normal Hindus. Jan Sangh started with just 3 Mps if you remember.

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May be not but compare to Israel it is.

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Hollowman

One country is the biggest democracy in the world (India) and the other is the biggest terrorist state in the world (Israel).

The only similarities in modern times that they share are both countries gained their independence from Great Britain within months of each other and both suffered the pains of partition, the two nations found themselves headed in different directions for nearly four decades.

The threat from neighbours, WMD'S and radical extremists (muslims, in case u thought the stereotype was leaning towards a different people) that both countries cite in order to strengthen relationship, justify trade & fool the public has a word in the English language which is so eloquently used in such circumstances.

Bollocks!

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I will check up the date of formation of Hindu Mahasabha and Muslim league again to correct myself.

Yes I agree that majority of Hindus are not communal. Most of the Hindus are quite tolerant and that's why India is a secular country. (Being a muslim, I admit that many muslims are communal). This religious tolerance is so significant that today both Prime Minister and President are from minority groups. The chief minister of Andhra Pradesh is a christian (although he sounds to be a hindu name) and there have been chief minister in Maharashtra, Bihar and other states from minority communities. It is unthinkable in U.S. for a black man to become a President but it's now a reality that India has a Prime Minister from a minority community.

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It would been ok if he was just christian.
The problem is, he is a evangelical christian (Y samuel rajashekara reddy) and 'supposedly' was or is a street goon.

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The above is perfect is a street goon.

By the way why should India cut it ties with Israel. Living other things apart, i knw its going to affect bilateral trade agreements.
The fact is one of my friends in a software firm in India, bangalore told me that Israel develops 60% of network or security programs and India is a potential market for them, allianced with them its going to increase jobs in India. The big picture is it should not cut its relationship from Israel, this is going to hinder in the progress of Indian economy.

One more thing sal35 I would like to say amongst the middle class no one is communal every one is bothered about thre daily life.
The only matter of fact is that whenever there are communal riots i bet 99% are unemployed or either illetrate.
Let me amongst the Muslims or Hindus. Its the politicians who treat them like dolls.

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Pakistan is building a Plutonium Reactor and India is cutting ties with a prime supplier of Airborne Command and Control Aircraft? Sure.

Stupid discussion.

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Uncle Ohioguy,
What is your point? India should support Israel for the reason it is the big supplier of Airborne Control and Comman Aircrafts.......

I know India, for sure, will do the same but I just want to point out your pathetic advice for diplomacy....

*NOTE: Do not bring religious issues here! *

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The Lebanese situation will not change anything between India and Israel. They both need each other, and they face some common enemies.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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couldn't agree more....also add that many israeli companies have a presence in india and israel is the second largest supplier of military equipment to india after russia.

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India cannot side with Hezbollah and Lebanese; even Muslim countries cannot do that. It is a forbidden sin to help the poor and oppress, if you do you will be called a terrorist and than bombed the crap out for apparently no reason.

If you agree with this and help your “freedom brothers” by shutting the **** up, they will present you with military toys like bombs, nuclear and F-16…just to show that you have grown up. As they give toys to kids to make them feel happy and important, meanwhile the adults can do the real job without any interruption. Yes, that is exactly what is going on here.

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Indian peace forces are already working in Lebanon with a Plan mere bhai :blush: