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I really don't think it's a big deal if she just says that she doesn't shake hands for religious reasons, and politely greets the person. People are pretty understanding. You don't need to compromise something that is really important to you.

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thanks sadiyah thats sum of wat i was looking for

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From the ahadith posted by Sadiyah Prophet Mohammed PBUH on one occasion did say “For one of you to be stabbed in the head with an iron needle is better for him than that he should touch a woman who is not permissible for him.” According to this one there is no possibility of "touch", but then there are several types of "touch". If you can avoid all forms of 'touch' that would be the best TAQWA. If the 'touch' is defined as in sexual-excited-touch then that is definitely haram, then there is need-based-touch which is regarded as 'permissible'.... you can put this 'culture-based-touch/shake' somewhere in between these two.

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You underestimate the power of good PR and good attitude in the work environment.

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^ and PR comes only from physcial contacts????

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All deeds are based on NEYAT also. It is the matter of culture. We must stick to our culture strictly.

We -PAKISTANIS do not shake hand if other side is a man for a lady and visa versa.

Also we wear DOPATTA to cover our head as well as** body*. (ha ha!!! if our ladies do so). Apreciating and then **using just head scarf* due to the fact that they think Pakistani dress code is not better than those who wear head scarf.

*So they became immune and have stop feeling shy , they now feel shy by opening the dead cells -----hair only. *

Sharam /haya of our ladies has flew away. *IT is because they now believe in MANZAR not NEYAT. *

Also our men support head scarf not Pakistani culture Dopatta. So why , what for , who cares-- shake hands like others, wear scarf like others.

MANZAR- DEKHAWA is important now. No DEKHAWA you are bad. Do not shake hand -you are mulla or orthodox.(LABELLED)

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I know a girl who doesnt shake hands with guys, in fact she doesnt even want to be touched by them in any way… I thought she was a hardcore rageing dike, till I found out she had a boyfriend… All that and a Hijab! Go figure :rolleyes:

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why must we stick to our CULTURE ( the culture you talk about above)


what do we get out of it ?

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I’m sorry I couldn’t make much out of your post, but what do you mean by “must stick to our culture”? What the heck does that mean? We must stick to our religion, I understand that, but culture?

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ever1 has th on was...so in conclsion to all this tread

' shake hads to the oppsite gender if u want and dont if u dont want....and if dont want to then...u dont need to explain anthin to other ..... u on need to justif urself... no1 excep urself can change ur belief!11111

(final i got arng to it-asi)

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I am sure pakistanis have their own culture; and u all must be knowing it. And also I believe u all must be proud of yr cultural heritage. **I pray to God u must not be the one who admire others' culture and do not have any affiliation or love with pakistani culture. **

Religion people may change from christian to muslim, from hindu to muslim or from all sects of islam to qadyani etc etc but all pakistanis would never ever be other than pakistani. The food you eat, and the dress u wear shalwar qameez for men, with Dopatta for ladies; are all that indicates your culture.

So in our culture , even if a lady wears a gloves would never like and appreciate to shake hand with a men. Our ladies who do believe to be proud pakistanis and those who do believe that we have a culture of our own , we have a dress code would use Dopatta with shalwar qameez to cover them rather than to use head scarf of those cultures who even never ever had their own dress code in their culture.
This was not difficult to understand that the culture relates to pakistani, arabic, european , american not islamic or christians etc etc

All pakistanis even though some of them belong to religions other than islam do not shake hand with opposite sex with or without gloves. They wear shalwar qameez.

Where as for example in arabs christian, jews , muslims , Darouzi, Huri, etc etc all ladies wear head scarf, and men wear DASHA etc etc .
Therefore I wrote above according to our culture---Pakistani------

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overrated topic, shake when necessary.. and if u have a bad feeling about it then don't

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Come on you are only shaking hands nothing Else, whats wrong with shaking hands????

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^ its against the commands of Allah and His Prophet (saw)....
and when u hear what Quran and Sunnah says, u as a muslim shud say "we hear and we obey" and not "hey whats wrong with doign it"....

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God has given me the ability to question so I am questioning things, making use of what God has given me... Thank God for giving me the ability to doubt and sense of learning.

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Exactly, what i meant by that was don’t go around shaking hands with every tom dick and harry that you see… Do it whenever you need to, i dont mind shaking hands and i dont really have to shake with many people on a daily basis.. but i used to not shake when i was like 16 and it would create a big deal everytime i would deny to shake someones hand.. oh well im over that phase and its much less drama for me to just shake the persons hand and MOVE ON! everyone has their own ways tho okay so respect their opinion.

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says a murderer "God has given me the ability to kill so I am killing things, making use of what God has given me… Thank God for giving me the ability to kill.

and u expect ppl to think hes saying something wise???

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God has given us the abilities to do a whole lot of things. I dont think you'd enjoy too much, if we start making use of all those abilities.

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Shaking someone's hand is not killing. shaking hands does not have any negative consequences infact the contrary. thats where you use your God given ability to use your reason and knowledge of cos and effect to determine what to do and what not to do....

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^ shaking hands with na-mehram is not allowed in Islam....
dont try to portray urself as more intelligent than Allah and the Prophet (saw)....