Re: SHAITAN / SATAN - The Leader of EVIL
I am serious
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I dont think its clarity, that is lacking. I think it could be new to you because no body else, or not many people, from the general public bothers taking on the najdiyyah (What is that word? Meaning please?),It means highground, the Imam of the movement you being taken upon is from the region of najd. He is referred to as Sheikh an-najd by his followers. The region was denied the prayer of The Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam because it is a region where tribulations arise from. Not everyone in the region is bad but bad najdi sentiments can be easily recognized. During the time of The Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam a bad one from them [whose loins these people come from] said ‘‘o Muhammad, be just’’ both statements are blasphemy. It would therefore be advisable to avoid any movements which arise from there, especially those at odds with General Islamic understanding . or tries to understand traditional Islam. Many are happy with going thing or just focus on Ibadah. ***(What’s that english?)***worship My posts should also read as accurate representatives of Quran and Hadees. (Ironically, without a single quran/hadees reference, huh? You really want to be taken seriously? Is this even a discussion?) Quran and Hadees are now coming Sister, that was an introduction You can actually hold me to the words, they are meant to be accurate representation of my religion, against what you have in terms of daleel. (Again… accurate representation of your religion without being able to provide a single reference to what you’re claiming to be "true representation???)
Yes in a very comprehensive form as well including Jismi and the presentation of our Amal to Him SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam ,
and I do not apply takfir (What’s that word??? Meaning please)To call someone disbeliever to its deniers (note to self: hmmm interesting) ***(I have been trying to keep this discussion very precise, specific, to the point without hmmmms ooooohs, aaaaahhss, siiiiigghhs and all those sounds you make while reading my posts… So can you do the same? Because your posts full of tones of grammatical errors are already read as if you’re writing in sleep & additional exclamatory words making them alot more confusing unnecessarily. So put your thoughts very clearly or reply only when you’re fully awake. If you’re purposely doing this so that I lose interest and eventually stop responding then there was no need to even come forward with an offer to discuss the above lectures. Nobody put a gun on your head Sister imagine having a machine gun with plenty of bullets and looking for someone, and upon finding him not firing a single bullet. Its interesting to the self if not anyone else. I have got a personality, possibly annoying, and my personality stays with me, unfortunately. I do apologize ***
We believe The Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam did taste death, if your trying to get at that.*** (Get at what? There is ijma of all muslims that he who denies The Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam did die is a disbeliever, this is what i thought you were getting at I asked a very simple question and expected a very simple answer. And this is the first time any muslim making such a huge claim that the last messenger of Allah, MOHAMMED (PBUH) is still ALIVE & that too WITHOUT providing ANY quran/hadees reference to the claim.)Its Islamic Aqeedah that The Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam is alive. You have now been provided with an overview from Quran and Hadees with regards to this belief***
Wahabis are very religious. Their recitation, and salah is something that is outwardly admirable. Their detail and following of text has also been noted by others. My personal addition to this last point is that I can often see things they miss out
The sentiments they come out with after reading the same texts are also different, This is the aspect that i think ‘‘does not go below their throats’’ because having a hard nose alone is not Islam, in Islam we have a soft side too. ***(I asked you a very simple question. Incase you did not understand, here, let me repeat with a different set of words, "If, as per you, wahabism has nothing to do with sunnah then WHY is the wahabi scholar in the videos strictly advocates adhering to the sunnah (AFTER TAWHEED OFFCOURSE) in all our actions??? That was my question but you just went on beating around the bush there too.)***The answer is already given in my reply. They do follow much, and do follow [some] texts to the letter, they do avoid other texts and ayats. they do have a set of sentiments which are different. They are religious, religious and Ahul Bidah. They use their religiosity to divert from the teachings of Islam, which are represented by Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah to what they themselves believe
I said Sunni Islam, as representative of Islam, meaning Islam does not allow for sects. Its Kufr to make sects, usually the differences in beliefs is what is concentrated on with regards to Fatwa. Sometimes the names are different but the religion is the same
It can not be justified, its explained with notes on Deviation with or without Takfir ***(Incase you didnt know, the deobandis, brelvis, wahabis or whatever more sectors are there the names of which I cant recall, they all call the other sector not following the CORRECT islam because of having differences in so many practices in the religion. It is not just about the different names. I was surprised to see the stupid issues they fight over) ***I not here to vouch for them, I said as it is, sects are bad, sometimes different names are not different sects. Btw the viewpoint you are hearing from me can be/will be recognized as Barelvi meaning non wahabi influenced traditional Islam
I’ll post the reference in my next post In Sha Allah ***(Kindly post quran or hadees reference for every claim that you have made including the ‘fiqhs’ agreeing on this and that claim. Unless you do, your posts are just flying stories.) ******I have now posted some Quran and Hadees, Fiqhi opinions will not come in that form. however even they can be tracked ***
The commandment is to go The Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam, and its not abrogated, acted upon
I’d prefer to have discussed this alone without any other subjects involved at the same time ***(Since it is a very huge claim, just like most of your other claims, I need a reference from the quran or sunnah or I cannot take none of your claims seriously. Because you’re not saying these are your own views but claiming you get that from quran/sunnah so kindly prove it with references. ***Done
I have written post 13, with clarity. If its unclear to you read it a few times, hold it with you, as you live life and see what you can understand of it, ***(No it is not clear or I would have replied to it. All I notice is some sarcasm with “Where is your Allah”. And some stories about, "…***the east to the west and from the north to the south…". ***But I do not understand why that sarcasm was put there. For what? In response to what and why?? ***Sorry Sister at first I thought you were much more Wahabi, then it has turned out. That sarcasm was aimed at the sort of wahabi that likes to propagate wahabism. Any way I do realise that I should have explained slowly and clearly. In Post 13 i counted what you were attributing help to. It was Jinns, jinns were leading to that place, jinns were asking, and jinns were helping, and i assumed it was jinns who making the need [causing need] of the people. This is the reason i asked where is your Allah?
Also the east to the west, north to the south [of the Islamic Areas] is a reference to Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah having built Mazaars Everywhere. The point here is that Ahlus Sunnah represent Islam and have had control over Islamic areas for its entirety, and that opposing views are new and not representative of Ahlus Sunnah, at least the majority view of Ahlus Sunnah. This would signal takfir on Ahlus Sunnah by some people who are now claiming to be ahlus sunnah
More conversation later if I get time (In Sha Allah)